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Seems folks here in Deadwood have alot to offer on the subject of politics. It's all over the place in so many threads its hard for a hoople like me to find it all.
So i thought maybe if there was a single thread for political opinion and debate it might be easier to indulge in reading it.
I hope so anyways cause some of the stuff I've read in here has all the promise of a good Sunday morning pundit throw down. But a lot fuckin wittier and funnier.
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Re: Politics in DEADWOOD -Bring It !
Dec 10, 2009 3:09 PM
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> Joe Namath says he scored on the last play sneak for
> the National title way back in '64 but they gave it
> to the Horns...
We weren't talking about cheerleaders, Joe.
> And that the Big 12's better then the SEC....just not
> on TV as much round most of the nation...
Hells yes, you have a friend who hasn't drunk the Kool-Aid! Where else would it be hilarious if Nebraska beat you?
> State vs State Civil war...Texas favored by 14 1/2
> over Bama...
Good to know. What's the half for?
Saved by Grace of God from frozen fucking college visit to Huskertown today - friend with actual investment in Nebraska took all three amigos, since the other two have already decided against NE, but NE boy demanded their presence anyway. He's the one who'll be homesick...may have to shame his parents and choose KU after all. Feeling really, really sad and lonely about the chicks starting to jump out of the nest. Can't believe I'm actually helping my baby to move across the Rocky Mountains, and meanwhile, that campus will be flooded with idiot football hooples next fall, so I have to get up at midnight on Jan. 1 to do the dorm room!!
p.s. No, I see no irony in the phrase "idot football hooples."
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Re: Politics in DEADWOOD -Bring It !
Dec 10, 2009 2:57 PM
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I'll tell ya one thing -- The laws of physics don't give a ripe shit about whether Sarah Palin believes in them or not.
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Re: Politics in DEADWOOD -Bring It !
Dec 10, 2009 11:33 AM
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If I hear one more time, on any fucking cable "news" channel, that Obama has to "thread the needle" every time the poor bastid gives a speech about ANYTHING, I?m going to cut someone. Balls and all.
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Re: Politics in DEADWOOD -Bring It !
Dec 10, 2009 10:08 AM
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Thanks for the update,Boone...Dexter is a good writer and I enjoyed his ci-devant Daily News columns but I tend to think that Sour Grapes may be the reason for his anti-Milch perspective...most of the characters on "Deadwood" were/are in the Public Domain and I think that Milch "used" them in a more entertaining,provocative and successful way than did Dexter...but again,Milch had many collaborators(the actors,writers ,directors,etc.)and Dexter alone is responsible for the content of his novel...I enjoyed Paris Trout and God's Pocket...may re-read Deadwood to see the contrast with the show...and I'll check out Spooner...oh,and "Tex"Cobb...he was never a great boxer,even in his prime,but, as you reminded us, a helluva Bar-Fighter and I wouldn't want to get hit by him,even today...
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Dec 10, 2009 8:19 AM
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> > Texas is plus 5 1/2...and Sweet home Alabama
> never
> > beat Texas...ever. Not even Bear...
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> Really??
The spread or the Texans making Bama their bitch?
Joe Namath says he scored on the last play sneak for the National title way back in '64 but they gave it to the Horns...
And Texas Darrell Royal had bad juju on the Bear but they played some very close games...
No wonder Bear drank...
5 1/2 is a lot...because Bama sans the Gator gobbling down played a lot of close games...
Handicapper pal says Texas outright...theory being Bamas big game was making Tebow bawl...and that the Big 12 defenses of Nebraska and Eccleshoma are better then Bamas.
And that the Big 12's better then the SEC....just not on TV as much round most of the nation...
TCU, those horny froggies, would be a 7 to 8 dog to Texas and 11 to 12 to the red Elephants.... if any of ye Texan kin are curious...
State vs State Civil war...Texas favored by 14 1/2 over Bama...
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Dec 10, 2009 8:12 AM
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.was he
> implying plagiarism on Milch's part?...
A bit with the bones of the tale I guess. He was mad about Milch deny ever reading his book and wondering how he suddenly came up with a tale of Al, Seth, Sol, and Charlie.
A tale which went different directions...but both had a lot of whores and Wild Bill. And dead whores...
I enjoyed Dexters DW book. His Charlie was a bit of a frontiersmen dandy but then so was the real Charlie.
Boone May is a big part of the book and not mentioned by Milch...
Maybe Dexter thought his DW was gonna be a flick...who knows?
Did ye ever read any of Dexter's dark Philly tales, God's Pocket or My brothers Keeper? He writes well, Paris Trout being his most famous, but who knows his beef with Milch may be about money or plagiarism or a bit of both...
It was amusing reading of him and his Dakota pal drunkenly contemplating a strike from the No !0 on Milch and Kevin Costner, who apparently owns the most expensive joint in DW today...though Costner surely has body guards and Cobb is out of shape by now.
Dexter's Daddy's roots are in the Dakotas, and the scribe lived there,,.... and round here we know how the lads from the rapids can get...
I just thought it was funny finding a DW rant in his Spooner afterwords...
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Dec 10, 2009 1:01 AM
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I don't know that I'd put a lot of faith in what Pete Dexter remembers about Milch,Deadwood,etc. not that he's intentionally misleading...wasn't the genesis of Deadwood,for Milch,a project about Ancient Rome which conflicted with an already planned HBO series and not a desire to do a "Western"?...and wasn't the "real"Charlie Utter something of a Dandy(hardly the Dayton Callie take)?...and wasn't Milch's original choice for Al,Ed O'Neil but Ian McShane's audition blew everyone away?...I vaguely remember reading Dexter's "Deadwood" and was underwhelmed...was he implying plagiarism on Milch's part?...
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Dec 9, 2009 11:51 PM
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> Texas is plus 5 1/2...and Sweet home Alabama never
> beat Texas...ever. Not even Bear...
Really??
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Dec 9, 2009 10:01 PM
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> > That 1 second add so Texas could kick a FG was
> the
> > zebras acting to better their conference.
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> BS - I swear to you that there were 30 seconds on the
> clock and it just flipped over to zero. The whole
> thing was very disturbing -
Ye Texans stick together...it was a Mack and Colt cluster fuck that was caught by the zebras and saved...
The SEC zebras helped Bama and Florida along to an undefeated matchup...
Tis Big Business...
But here comes Tennessee
Hell Tiger might go to Tennessee if he see's the hostess program...
Texas is plus 5 1/2...and Sweet home Alabama never beat Texas...ever. Not even Bear...
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Dec 9, 2009 9:53 PM
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> Good luck, DWO. Wish I knew anything at all about
> mortgages.
Good luck, I'm not much help...they make things so complicated so to keep their lawyer dog brethren employed in the fleecing...
Cold Younger might have had the right idea about bankers...
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Dec 9, 2009 9:52 PM
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> THX Rapid...do you have any thoughts, or are you not
> following this?
Not following it, but if that article is correct I'd wait to see what the fallout is.
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Dec 9, 2009 9:51 PM
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DW note....
Pete Dexter, who penned the novel Deadwood featuring Utter, Al, Jane, Sol, Bullock and Bill, before DW came out had a few choice words for David Milch in the afterword of his new, very good memoir/novel Spooner...
He describes sitting in DW with a pal waiting to see Milch and Costner....
.....I stopped proposing small bets on the color of the undergarments worn by cowgirls who stumbled into old Saloon No. 10, leaving us nothing to do but drink, gamble, and watch the streets for sightings of Kevin Costner and David Milch.......and David Milch is the Hwood genius who produced and wrote much of the HBO series DW. Mr Milch's story was an interesting one to me, at least as it emerged from maybe half a dozen profiles about him when DW was in its heyday, and it goes like this Mr. Milch had pined to do a western ever since he was an important writer on an Emmy winning network cops series and could have just as easily been an novelists, if I remember the story correctly, and after years of research and reading everything available on the old west decided to focus his talents on the town of DW in the 1870's. But hold your horses, Tex. As Mr Milch has explained it he didn't read everything after all, he read everything except the novel Deadwood, and was not only able on his own to come up with the same setting and feel and characters that populated the novel, but somehow intuited a footnote in history sort of character named Charlie Utter into pretty much the same human being who is the same central character of the novel. Except Mr Milch gave him an English accent and if that is not Hwood genius what is,"
"Needless to say I have been meaning to compliment Mr Milch on his series and his genius for quite awhile, but having missed him that night .....I guess the best thing to do now is to sit back with the viewing public and wait for him to do it again."
Well he mixed English accents actors buts its odd that Utter and Sol and Al and Bullock sprang suddenly from Milch's brain...
Anyway, as the memoir says Dexter is a bit of a nut, but he did revive DW ghost before Milch did...though Milch sent them in different directions...
It still has one of the best instances of black humor...
Dexter, who earlier had all his front teeth knocked out in the same South Philly bar, stormed back into a bad bar for vengeance with his friend, the heavyweight fighter Tex Cobb and found himself surrounded by a large group of South Philly thugs carrying bats and tire irons......right before the beating began, which crippled Dexter, Cobb turned to him and said "I sure hope this is the softball team..."
He credits Cobb, in a rage and with a a broken arm, for saving his life by brutally beating the group back...and not running.
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Dec 9, 2009 8:02 PM
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Good luck, DWO. Wish I knew anything at all about mortgages.
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Dec 9, 2009 7:58 PM
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> That 1 second add so Texas could kick a FG was the
> zebras acting to better their conference.
BS - I swear to you that there were 30 seconds on the clock and it just flipped over to zero. The whole thing was very disturbing - I was just waiting for them to get 7 point up so that I could go do some work, and it never happened, so I was paying attention.
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> The Nebraska coach screamed it in the tunnel...this
> is all BCS bullshit. We were fucked so the Big 12
> could go to the title game...
Well, Jesus Christ - hire a quarterback. And have you heard of Missouri? THAT was an ass-fucking, my friend, not this. Funny thing about that KU Blow Job/Orange Bowl was that it set off a huge gang war between football and basketball at KU, which really came to a head this fall now that football is a bunch of nobodies again. Huge violent pissing contests all over campus, fire arms confiscated.
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> The refs are paid by the conferences not the NCAA
> what is good for the conferences, and the BCS, is
> good for the refs...
The refs were interesting, I don't deny it, but there was time on the clock and a lot of it, and I want to know what happened to it, now that you brought it up.
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> The BCS is an elitist bastard of an
> organization...whose babble is run by an old Bush
> bastard Fleicher, fuck any school not aligned with a
> power conference, power politicians, and powerful
> networks...
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> They even matched Boise and TCU up with each other so
> they would not embarrass a BCS big boy school...
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> The BCS needs Guy Fawkes...
Friggin horned frogs, I just can't process it. But It would have been sweet to see the demolish Florida.
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