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The fascinating story of the legendary director whose reputation became forever tarnished after his public conviction for unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor. Thirty years later, the film reopens this complex, still-controversial case, challenging many of the myths surrounding it while addressing larger questions about the media, society's obsession with celebrity and the U.S. legal system.
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Sep 28, 2008 11:21 PM
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batmagoo how can you stick up for him because he may have changed? Probable because you worked with him. If you worked with the girl I'll bet you would feel different. If anybody ever put it to you against your will you would sing a different tune. Remember, she was a little girl.
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Sep 3, 2008 3:38 PM
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On one hand you have people who will praise Roman for his artistic talent. On the other hand you have people who have sympathy for him becaue his wife and child were murdered. If you don't look at his life as a whole and just look at this one situation things are much clearer.
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Aug 30, 2008 12:45 PM
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> First about Polanski: since people are so quick to
> demonize others anytime sex is involved, it is worth
> pointing out for the record that Roman Polanski has
> been happily married to the same woman for some 20
> years, and is a very gentle, very bright man, in his
> seventies - this does not make his former crimes
> lesser, but it is worth noting, since so much that is
> written is about painting a heartless and despicable
> character
I would agree that it is worth noting in the sense that at least the man hasn't repeated the crime, and has improved his life and moral character rather than slide down a path of self-destruction with perhaps more victims. The problem I have is you can't give him too many accolades to the point that the crime is dismissed with a wave of the hand just because he is now a "better man." He is a sexual perp who victimized a child, and he fled rather than be prosecuted. I don't find much to admire there myself.
The statute of moral limitations never runs out.
...The girl herself, for many years, always
> refuted the notion that she had been a victim, and if
> a victim she became, it is only because the press
> identified her and pursued her mercilessly --
The girl was just that - a girl. A young child. Often victims will deny they were victimized out of fear. That fear and the trauma from being abused or raped, especially in a child, can cause irrational thoughts and feelings. The media did not help, to be sure, but we need to remember who the real criminal is here, and it wasn't the media. He victimized her, plain and simple.
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Aug 15, 2008 11:27 AM
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To Batmagoo:
>he will only be arrested if he comes to the United States, and this, only because he is guilty of not serving his dozen or so days in jail, and facing his deportation hearing..<
In the unlikely event he does come to the US, what would the punishment be? A few days and timed served? Or would they release him after an hour like DUI cases in California?
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Aug 13, 2008 4:13 PM
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Then again OJ got off so maybe today we'd let him off...
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Jun 26, 2008 9:33 PM
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Yes, it does make one wonder... Presumably, in today's consciousness about the seriousness of child abuse, Polanski would be dragged to the gallows and humiliated endlessly, then, locked away forever -- On the other hand, if he'd pulled his stunt a couple of thousand years ago, in the days of Socrates, he would most likely be seen as a good chap and one hell of a philosopher...
I guess the 70's was some sort of halfway point.
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Jun 26, 2008 11:59 AM
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It makes you wonder how today's justice system would handle this case?
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Jun 25, 2008 7:34 PM
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A quick word in defense of the French in response to Host Lisa about her view that France is holding Polanski in high regard, and somehow facilitating his escape from the law -- Reading all these comments reminds me of how hard it is for people to process the complexity of such a case, whose substance has so often been reduced to emotionally charged sound bites...
First about Polanski: since people are so quick to demonize others anytime sex is involved, it is worth pointing out for the record that Roman Polanski has been happily married to the same woman for some 20 years, and is a very gentle, very bright man, in his seventies - this does not make his former crimes lesser, but it is worth noting, since so much that is written is about painting a heartless and despicable character...The girl herself, for many years, always refuted the notion that she had been a victim, and if a victim she became, it is only because the press identified her and pursued her mercilessly --
Furthermore, the times (70's), the context, ( does anyone really need reminding what sexuality was like in the 70's ? in all walks of life... Oh the things I saw in high school....) the desperation of parents trying to turn their children into stars, should all be viewed through the prism of judgment so many years later...If we are to decide that we are fit to judge...The Polanski case symbolized the birth of a shift in attitudes - the change came AFTER this case -- not before it!
Now for the French:
The French are not responsible, and Roman Polanski is free to travel about most of the World - he will only be arrested if he comes to the United States, and this, only because he is guilty of not serving his dozen or so days in jail, and facing his deportation hearing...This is not because of the French, but because of the Plea Bargain agreement which was struck in Santa Monica, California, essentially mandating that he stay in jail pending his deportation. While on bail, he was granted permission by the court to travel to a festival, from which he never came back...mostly because he knew that he could not stop the eventual deportation...By failing to return to America, he was in breach of the terms of the Plea bargain -- If the prosecutor had not sought a plea bargain agreement to secure his deportation, then Polanski would have gone to jail - the French still would not have anything to do with it...He is not, however, a criminal under any legal system outside of America, and thus, the French have no say in whether or not he does return to the US - they may not extradite him. Ten years ago, I actually traveled to Italy and Poland with Roman Polanski on a job, and I can assure you that these countries were also not in the least interested in capturing him - Simple as that... There are no conspiracies, no one is showing anyone favorable treatment... Most people have enough going on in their lives to focus on other topics besides their dislike of lecherous filmmakers from the 1970's... I hope this clarifies the position of the French ( and the rest of Europe )...
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Jun 23, 2008 1:41 PM
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In the end the entire situation sounds like it was handled very badly. I am so sorry for what the young girl had to go through and still deals with to this day.
I feel like Roman got away with it because of who he was. If it was any other John Doe in the USA he would still be behind bars. It was very sad to see France hold him up so high.
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Jun 17, 2008 1:38 PM
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>Nope. I'll be gone tonight. I'm done with HBO - canceling my decades long subscription as well. There is nothing left to the network, other than a shell of what it once was under former creative visionary, and CEO, Chris Albrecht. HBO made an ENORMOUS mistake losing him at the helm.
>And, who knew their internet community forum was just a biased shill for their corporate propaganda? To think it was presented as a forum for their customers to discuss HBO's programming! Not exactly.
>HBO, now barely TV. Derivative. Boring. Yawn.
looks like ya showed up at the wrong time, you should have posted when there were shows actually on the air...
and theres a part of me that would like to believe you, but you've posted many farewell speeches in the past...
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Jun 17, 2008 2:06 AM
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my goodness tides, were you banned again? I see your name changed a little.
I shouldn't even post to you, your post will probably be gone by tomorrow anyway...
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Jun 17, 2008 2:03 AM
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>So much for The First Amendment and our Freedom of Speech...
>It is astounding what remains on this thread versus what is deleted.
>What a pathetic joke HBO has become. 
what's wrong? I thought you said the admins were just doing their job?
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Jun 13, 2008 12:48 PM
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CharlesPetrik,
Maybe much of what you post is true, but claiming that Charles Manson and the Family murdered Sharon at Polanski's behest is patently outrageous. That house was chosen because Manson had a vendetta against Terry Melcher, Doris Day's son. Manson knew he no longer lived there, but he wanted to send him a message and instill fear.
Why would Polanski want his unborn son killed?
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Re: ROMAN POLANSKI: Wanted and Desired
Jun 12, 2008 7:55 PM
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It was not the director's intention to exhonerate RP or cast blame on my mother. In hindsight, it would have been better if she participated, but that did not occur. I appreciate some of the thoughtful posts here, if the facts are questioned eventaully the facts do come out. The matter brings up such strong opinions, and a few very strange ones. I'm sure most of you can tell the difference between truth and well... I'm not sure what to call some of it.
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