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As America hurtles toward the next presidential race, the HBO film 'Recount' will relive the fervor of 2000's messy election. Kevin Spacey and Denis Leary take Al Gore's fight to the courts on May 25 - make your own case here on the boards, where the most cogent arguments will be featured in a special poll on HBO.com. And don't worry - this time all the votes will be counted. The question: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 29, 2008 11:35 AM
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In all honesty we will never know. -- __________________________ Jaydes HBO Forums Host
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 28, 2008 5:17 PM
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I agree Host_Ginna, After 9-11 I was afraid we would turn the anger inward and start blaming Americans. It didn't take long. http://www.florida2000election.com
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 28, 2008 11:56 AM
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> If your precious GWB had lost you would still be > demanding a recount after eight years. > And Al unlike W would have chose to SWAT AT FLIES > unlike your precious 'fearless leader', and could > have PREVENTED 9/11. I get very nervous when people talk about how 9/11 could have been prevented. Yes, I believe that there was some intel out there saying there was something brewing, and there were missed opportunities, but I don't think that we really could conceive of an attack on our country on that scale. I think our country has always lived under a blanket of a false sense of security, and we take our security here in the States for granted. I think that goes all the way up to our government. With that mindset, I don't think 9/11 was preventable. I would not say that today, because we I have to hope and believe that we have learned from that great and terrible tragedy that we are not invulnerable. Our next President has his work cut out for him. (I did not vote for GWB btw) -- ********* Host_Ginna HBO Forums Host
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 28, 2008 10:01 AM
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If your precious GWB had lost you would still be demanding a recount after eight years. And Al unlike W would have chose to SWAT AT FLIES unlike your precious 'fearless leader', and could have PREVENTED 9/11.
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 28, 2008 9:56 AM
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Bush has let bin laden go many times as well, if you really thought about it, Bush really doesn't want bin Laden caught or killed. Because as long as he can get all you Flavor Aide drinkers to believe him about another "immenent attack". Bush needs bin Laden alive to generate fear amoung all you Elizabeth Hasselbecks'...
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 28, 2008 9:49 AM
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Actually your assesment is incorrect, gas would not be $100 a gallon had Gore been president. The real reason gas costs so much per gallon is because people like yourself voted a former oil man president. I might remind you that Bush lived in Texas where people don't pump their gas wells until the price per barrel is OVER a certain amount, that's right we are not being screwed by the "Arabs" with the oil but the TEXANS. Plus we get our oil from Canada and Mexico before we get it from the middle east. Plus 9/11 would not have happened because Gore like Clinton considered bin Laden a real threat unlike Bush who CHOSE NOT to "SWAT AT FLIES". Also the loss of life in New Orleans would NOT have occured after hurricane Katrina, people would have not been dead and rotting in the streets had Gore or Kerry been president plus the 'preditory lenders' would have been contained and there would not have been a 'mortgage meltdown', now the next president, whomever that might be has to deal with this and I am so sure that the republicans WILL BLAME and OBSTRUCT that next president if a Democrat should be elected, plus and I will make this prediction that the current 'recession' that the idiots in the white house keep denying that we are in, will 'explode' all of a sudden after the next election. So every screw up that Bush has commited will be blamed forever in history on the succeding president no matter who they are Republican or Democrat...so work with that.
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 28, 2008 1:27 AM
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Gas at $100/gal.? We would not be trillions of $ in debt (to China), restarting the cold war, making a mockery of the FDA, EPA, OSHA, FEMA and any other government agency that used to protect the citizenry, giving tax cuts to the rich- which only gets them richer- and oh yeah- filling body bags because of a lie. We really need less regulation/oversite so we can have more ENRONS. What was the last count- $10,600,000,000 in totally unaccounted for taxpayer (that 's AMERICAN) money in Iraq. Too bad we couldn't have spent it armoring vehicles or rebuilding the food, water, job infrastructures. Drink some more kool-aide.
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 27, 2008 3:04 PM
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Gas would be $100 a gallon by now - look how much the cost has gone up since the dems/libs have been back in power the last couple years. Also, everyone would be driving cardboard box cars to go with AlGore's environmental hoax where only he flies on jets, uses limos and SUVs and lives in a mansion that utilizes more electricity and oil than a small city. The rest of us regular citizens would all be working in the rice fields by now.
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 27, 2008 2:13 PM
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I really don't care how a Gore presidency would have been different. Yes he's weird, perhaps a sociopath, but who knows what his presidency would have been like. Perhaps he would have found a way to tax dimples on ballots. He loves taxes... and dimples. But it doesn't matter - he lost. http://www.florida2000election.com
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 26, 2008 11:29 PM
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Obviously the Republicans would have considered Gore an illegitimate president and would have questioned every action he made. In that sense, after 9/11 the republicans would have demanded an Iraq invasion Florida-canvassing-board-protest-style and Gore would have eventually given in. The republicans certainly would not have kowtowed to Gore the way the democrats did to Bush after 9/11. That is the difference between these two parties - democrats (the clintons excluded) believe in the rule of law, the Constitution, and the institutions our country was founded on while the republicans just believe in fascism. If you voted for Bush twice don't bother complaining - you've gotten everything you deserve. -- Edited by imwithchomsky at 05/26/2008 8:30 PM PDT
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 26, 2008 10:53 PM
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Simple, Bush believes that he the presidency was his due. Al Gore believed that the presidency was a position of trust one earns. Gore believes in the RULE OF LAW. Bush believes that the President is the LAW. Gore would honor the RULE OF LAW. Bush is a spoiled BRAT.
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 26, 2008 4:10 PM
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I believe the differences between a Gore presidency and the Bush presidency we now have would have been considerably different. Perhaps there would have been no War in Iraq and if it occurred, given the current circumstance, US involvement would be ended by now. Global warming of course would have been at the forefront of a Gore Administration, which possibly would have included weaning the Nation off of its huge apetite for oil. Who knows, maybe gas prices would not ever reach $4 per gallon and beyond. One thing for sure the US image around the world would not be nearly as negative as it is today. Most important a Gore presidency would have put a person with considerable National experience in the Oval Office. Instead we ended up with the Governor of Texas, to this day dosen't act as if he has any experience.
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 26, 2008 3:54 PM
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evinrock, Again you are spouting stupidity. You truly are not alone, though. It seems that people in general love to not RESEARCH anything before spouting off the rhetoric of their chosen party. Most of you must be graduates of public schools. Let me point out the stupidity. Blackwater Enron Gore catching Bin Laden (yours) Bush is stupid (funny how he was smart enough to become PRESIDENT. Wow, you are so smart..people..you should be PRESIDENT TOO) 911 would not have happened. and the favorite... GAS!!! Blackwater was not a presidential decision. The war department did hire mercs, but the independent corporations are the culprit of the hiring of mercs that caused problems. Enron. Enron was happening during Clinton/Gore. It only unfolded during Bush. Gore catching binLaden.. Why did he and Clinton let him go when the CIA ops had him in cross hairs? (not once.. but actually 7 times since WTC1 - SEVEN FREAKING TIMES) Bush is a liar... Bush is stupid. No comment there on stupidity, but a liar? I still do not see it. 911 would not have happened... C'mon.. 911 was the last in a string that Clinton/Gore could not prevent. Bush was left with the low budgeted Clinton/Gore leftovers. Bush unified the protective agencies that Clinton broke apart. Bush did nlot listen... PHUNNY. Neither did Clinton. Gas Prices. This is a great learning experience for all of you. Basic economics. Consumption and supply aka Supply and Demand. (funny big oil bush cannot get his saudi pals to increase production) The consumption increase on the WORLD market is drawing supplies that normally we the USA would have bought, instead we are now importing near equal amounts of oil as were in 1998, yet our consumption has increased every year. Couple that with the craze in buying larger more roomy vehicles that guzzle gas has set a demand that the ancient oil refineries cannot cover. The OPEC nations understand our dependence on this oil but they wish not to hurt their Futures and increase production. We do not want to open up drilling areas (that were set aside by President Carter BTW) in ANWAR and the Florida Legislature does not want to piss off their Tourism Lobbyists to allow off shore drilling. Then you have the turbo environmentalists who will not budge on our desire to use the oil shale in the midwest and refine that into oil. GEEZ. Lets top this with what our own government does. TAXES...... They already tax corporations 25%. (24.5) This tax includes the big oil companies. Then they tax in importation of oil. Then tax the oil companies for distribution to gas companies. (even if the oil and gas company carries the same corporate name, they tax for distribution between divisions) Then they tax the consumer. After the feds get their taxes, the states apply their own taxes. WHY ARE PRICES SO HIGH? Consumption/demand with the support of decreased production coupled with over taxation. And to think there are idiots out there who want to tax oil even more. (Windfall Tax) Damn, you want 10 dollar a gallon prices. (over exaggeration, but a possibility)
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 26, 2008 2:23 PM
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FYI, the reason that HBO premiered "Recount" this weekend is due to what this (hijacked) administration in The White House has done to The United States of America - especially in Iraq.
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Re: How would a Gore presidency have been different?
May 26, 2008 9:30 AM
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Obviously, you forgot about the part where Gore only wanted a recount in the counties where he knew it was a heavy democratic area. Just goes to show that people will twist whatever information they can to support their agenda doesn't it? However, where is it if you make a mistake with your ballot and don't let anyone know about it, then it is just assumed that you voted for Gore. The ballot design was approved by the democrats, a majority of the polling places are run by democrats
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