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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Aug 27, 2005 1:48 AM
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Hello, m'lady!
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 16, 2004 8:47 AM
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Wow,what a great story..especialy your last paragraph
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 16, 2004 3:50 AM
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If Only For A Few Hours
Tuesday, October 30, 2001. I was back in New York City again after moving west some three years prior. It was a bit weird for me staying in a hotel in the city that still felt like home and which welcomed me as a long lost friend from the moment I first arrived. But the fact was that I was a visitor now. Besides, there are worse fates than having a posh room on the company
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 16, 2004 12:39 AM
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> Supposedly, and we'll never know what is true and
> what is not, Randy did agree to be traded to the
> Dodgers, but management vetoed it at the last minute
> and traded Steve Finley instead (a sad day for me;
> He was my favorite Diamondback). But Randy always
> has said publicly that he wanted to do whatever was
> best for the team. If you take this statement as
> truth, and you have every right not to because who
> knows what really is going on in that big fella's
> head, then he knew that him going to the Yankees was
> not in our best interest.
Yeah, but going to the Dodgers or Angels certainly was in the Diamondback's best interest. I have a hard time believing Arizona's front office would turn down the package of prime (and on the cheap) prospects either team cooked up for Randy. Furthermore, the beauty of it was that two teams were in the hunt; even if the Finley trade took the steam out of the deal with L.A., there was still Anaheim. But like you say, the truth is blowing in the wind.
> Unfortunately, or fortunately, however you look at it,
> the Yankees have been so good for so long now that
> their fans have all but forgotten what it's like to root
> for a team through thick and thin.
Whoa, you know, it wasn't that long ago that the Yankees were the laughingstock of baseball. From 1982 to 1992, they were bad with a capital 'S' (if you know what I mean) for a shameful several of those years. You could go to Yankee Stadium in those days and there would be 4,000, 5,000 people in August. It was damned depressing.
Luckily, George Steinbrenner was suspended from baseball for hiring lowlife hitmen to dig up dirt on Dave Winfield, and real baseball people went to work grooming people like Bernie Williams, Andy Pettite, Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, and Mariano Rivera, and dealing for the likes of Paul O'Neill, Tino Martinez, and Scott Brosius. And the rest, as they say, is history.
Now George is back, and in rare apoplectic form. It's back to the Eighties: Acquiring top-heavy firepower, depleting the farms, and hanging on to just enough (or not enough, as the case may be) arms to lose way too many games.
The point of all this is this: There are many of us who indeed remember all too well how it felt to root for an abysmal team. Even if we do live in New York.
> Casey Fossum is working out all right for us.
> No, he is not nearly the same caliber pitcher
> as Curt, but you can't strike gold on every
> trade. (I'm staring in your direction, Mr. Loaiza.)
Well, Jose Contreras was a similar salary dump. As terrible as Loaiza is, at least you know he'll get shelled the second time through a lineup. (It's uncanny!) Contreras would look like Superman one outing, then Shoeshine Boy the next. Sometimes anticipated depression beats unmitigated anxiety.
>> As for issues that are pertinent to the 2001
>> postseason: I must reiterate the fuming created by
>> that columnist from the Arizona Republic who had
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 16, 2004 12:36 AM
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Message was edited by tashtish at Sep 15, 2004 9:43 PM
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 15, 2004 10:05 PM
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I've always understood what the film was supposed to be about, I just took it for granted that every one would understand that I was commenting on a side issue of the documentary. I guess I'm not very good at this message board stuff. And thank you for taking my point about 9/11 affecting the entire country and not just NY.
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 15, 2004 8:33 PM
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I'm glad you see the point of the film now Whogirl. I don't think anybody wants to begrudge the D-backs their moment. They won fair and square. I like to think of it this way, 9/11 wasn't an attack specifically on NY or DC, the attack was on all Americans. The country's rally behind NY at that time was basically because NY "took one for the team". (and maybe a little guilt because most Americans don't like or understand NYers).
Good Luck at school Whogirl!
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 15, 2004 11:52 AM
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Watching the World Series that year was a healing balm on the soul of every New Yorker, sports fan or not. When George Bush climbed atop the pitchers mound in Yankee Stadium and threw out that first pitch, it showed that NYers are not only resilient but that we weren't going to let what happened stop us from living. Just the fact that the Yankees made it to the WS that year was enough to help me begin healing. I personally didn't think that they were going to make it to the playoffs. But they pulled it together. In those dark days after 9/11 when all the news was covering were the attacks and they kept revisiting the footage of the planes crashing and the smoke and ground zero. The Yankees gave us something else to focus on. Something that was good. Something that wasn't tarnished. Something that hadn't changed since that fateful Tuesday in September. Everyone changed that day, inside where it counts, but the Yankees and winning that stayed the same. Derek Jeter's walk off homer in the first ever November baseball game was a thing of beauty. It was a game winner. It was perfect.
Thanks for the memories guys.
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 15, 2004 10:16 AM
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Well,i'm glad you do now understand the program,i saw that in your last post in the first sentence.
I'm now going to agree with you...Yes, you have every right
to start the healing process in your own way,Healing is a very healty thing for all of us. As it was for the daughter of the pilot,or the guy who lost his two brothers,who cheered and hugged total stangers at the Yankees game.
As it was also for the players on the Yankees and D-backs teams.
I'm from philadelphia, I almost allways root for a national
league team to win the world series,and i really wanted to see Curt Schilling win a world series title.
But the bigger picture was to get behind New York city, When Boston and Chicago spoke,if you listend to them closely,and read their signs they were rooting for the city ! not neccessary the Yankees.
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 15, 2004 8:42 AM
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Ok, ok, yes, I get it, it's all about the tragedy, not baseball. The World Series was about healing, not who won or lost, I get it. I just felt that others would be able to express their opinions on that subject a lot more eloquently than I, so I chose to comment on a different aspect of this documentary. I liked the film, after all. I thought it was very well made with all the right sentiments in place. I lost people that day too, we all did, so please don't get me wrong by thinking I have no sympathy for New York and it's loss. New York is probably my favorite city in the world. I just don't happen to connect the feelings of that horrible day with the Yankees. But as I said in my very first post, I expect to be fighting for my D-backs all my life, I don't think anyone will ever understand how I healed by doing the opposite of what most people did that year; I rooted against the Yankees. And yes, Phoenix is a city full of incredibly small minded stupid people, not that every one there is, but the vast majority of them is what made me want to get away from there as quickly as I could. And no, the baseball fans there aren't too smart, but as you say you got told to be quite by a fan there, I got told the very same thing in Pittsburgh. Does that mean their fans are all the same? Certainly not. Please, please, don't judge us all by the insensitive jerks you might come across. I'm sorry no one seems to see things my way, but that's all right. After all, this is America, and you can say or root for who you'd like, just like that little girl. I hope I'm not coming off as sounding insensitive.
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 15, 2004 7:51 AM
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I'm from Phoenix, AZ. My most memorable moment was getting 3 tickets to the World Series for Game 2. I stood in line at the BOB (Bank One Ballpark) for 9 hours. Game day, Sunday, October 28th...my brother, my dad, and myself went to the game. It was sold out. There were Yankee fans and Diamondback fans all hoping for a win. Johnson pitched and the D-Backs won 4-0.
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 15, 2004 7:11 AM
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Do you think Jessica gets it now ?
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 15, 2004 5:53 AM
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> I'm sure Yankee fans would have preferred missing the series altogether if it meant having the towers back and all those lost souls.
***In an FDNY heartbeat. Very nice post, azbitz.
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 15, 2004 4:17 AM
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Hi, I'm a Met fan who has made the life-mistake of moving to Phoenix a few years ago. On 9/11/01 I went to work convinced many of my husbands friends, all FDNY, were dead. When I got to work a co-worker of mine, who is a Phoenix native, made a snide comment to me about "all those dead New Yorkers" and then laughed. I should have punched him in the mouth. You see, for some reason, in AZ, the anti-NY sentiment is thicker than anywhere else I have ever been. I chalk it up to the fact that NY is the greatest and most popular city in the world and, in comparison, Phoenix is just a creepy, sniveling, jealous little wanna-be town always looking to get some limelight.
Anyway, my co-workers horrible comment on the day of the tragedy actually made this life-long Met fan cheer for the Yankees. I never in my life thought I would cheer for an American league team let alone cheer for the Yankees.
For me, Piazza's HR was the 9/11 baseball highlight but the Yankees were great also, as always. The baseball low-point was when they played the first few notes of Sinatra's NY/NY at Bank One ballpark and then made that record scratching noise over it. What a show of organizational poor sportsmanship. The fact that it happened shortly after the dreaded Red Sox had enough class to give the Yankees the red carpet treatment made it even worse. The disgust on Joe Torre's face after the incident said it all.
The post-win Diamondback parade thru the empty streets of "downtown" Phoenix was very depressing. Not because the Yankees lost but because only about 100 Diamondback fans showed up, it was pathetic. Also, if you ever go to a Diamondbacks game just make sure you don't clap or cheer, the supposed baseball fan in front of you will turn around and ask you to stop being so loud. Yes, they will ask you not to cheer AT A BASEBALL GAME! THEY DON'T DESERVE A MAJOR LEAGUE TEAM HERE!!! The fans here actually need to be told to get to the stadium early and to be prepared for some traffic and be prepared to do some walking! Are these baseball fans or pre-schoolers? The Diamondbacks are too good for this place. Sorry for that anti-Phoenix rant but I really don't like this so-called city.
The Yankees may have lost the series but they helped their fans get back some sense of normalcy. Thats the whole point of this program. Sorry if some AZ fan feels left-out. I'm sure Yankee fans would have preferred missing the series altogether if it meant having the towers back and all those lost souls.
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Re: Most memorable moment of the 2001 Major League Baseball post season?
Sep 15, 2004 1:13 AM
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You needn't root for him....he's got plenty of fans...including the daughter of the pilot of that airliner you saw the underside of...
Seeing our point any clearer?
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