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Tina lets the Yosts know she's back in town.
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Jan 27, 2008 2:11 PM
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i am so pissed about the cancellation of this show. It is the one HBO series that i actually watched and enjoyed. I am not a big TV person but this is the one series i have ever watched weekly and planned on continuing to watch weekly. The cancellation is a big joke and half of the other shows are not even nearly as good as john from cincinnati was and do not deserve to be aired. Flight of the Concords? are you kidding me that show is terrible. John from Cincinnati invokes individuals to use critical thinking skills. The show leaves individuals wondering what will happen next and allows them to configure their own ideas on the show. It is like a good book, i good book keeps the reader guessing unlike every other show that lays everything out in chronilogical order without any interaction of thought whatsoever. I now strongly dislike HBO and will most likely cancel my subscription to the program entirely. and on top of cancelling the show, you can not even find the series at any local walmart or blockbuster, that is just rediculous. Thanks a lot now i can not even purchase the series for myself cause i certainly will not purchase it from HBO, who cancelled the show.
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Jan 4, 2008 11:33 AM
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> More awesome insights Ecclesfan. Thank you.
Thanks. Just blathering on as thoughts occur.
> Maybe if a few of the critics had had the "Ecclesfan
> notes" they might have been more favorable towards
> the show!
I doubt this was a series about which anyone is apt to change his or her mind. They either liked it or they didn't. They either got it or they didn't.
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Jan 3, 2008 7:25 PM
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More awesome insights Ecclesfan. Thank you.
Maybe if a few of the critics had had the "Ecclesfan notes" they might have been more favorable towards the show!
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Jan 3, 2008 5:54 PM
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One of the things I'm struck by in this episode is the theme of living in the past, nursing old wounds, dwelling on regrets. Vietnam Joe speaks to his bartender of his feelings of failure over how he perceives his actions "in country" amounted to leaving his comrades behind. Tina takes pains to explain why she left Shaun, commenting on how she first made sure he would be okay, waiting until Cissy came out and got him. All that exposition is indicative of her sense of guilt and regret over the past. Cass speaks to John about how she feels defined by her past, having grown up hungry in Hibbing, Minnesota. Freddy confides to Palaka his plans to make a break from his past, and how it might just get him killed. Seeing Butchie with Tina emotionally transports Kai back to her past in which she felt abandoned by Butchie. The music - her old music - plays in the machine even after she shoots it.
In each case, freedom requires that they make a decision to live in the present. "Work here, Cass." Making amends when and if possible is one thing, but living in regret, allowing the past to define the present is something these characters have to get beyond.
Sometimes I find myself long regretting
Some foolish thing some little simple thing I've done
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood.
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Oct 15, 2007 12:09 PM
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Hi...
Check out the latest tribute to JFC on youtube.
This is a great video.
Angels And Airways-Everything's Magic
While you are there be sure to subscribe to user "Jmonad" video's.
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My Father freelances in Cass' camera.
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Oct 15, 2007 11:58 AM
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> I was rewatching this episode last Saturday at 11. We
> went out earlier, celebrated, had a few drinks, great
> food. Got home and everyone went to sleep. I was
> really enjoying myself watching JFC for the 5th time
> perhaps, taking in every little line of dialogue.
> What a perfect evening! Made me think how great HBO
> experience can be.
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> "It's about to get real uncomfortable, real fast..."
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> David Milch
I agree. Every time I watch (oh yeah, at least 5), I find something new. It's great to connect things having seen the entire season. I was out Sat. eve too, at a local annual festival. The street merchants were all over and the big item this year appears to be Mexican Wrestling masks! They had little ones with capes for the kiddies, and all variety of adult ones. Of course lots of people were trying them on for laughs. We had the best laugh though, then came home and watched JFC on the patio. You're right. Perfect evening.
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Oct 15, 2007 11:26 AM
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I was rewatching this episode last Saturday at 11. We went out earlier, celebrated, had a few drinks, great food. Got home and everyone went to sleep. I was really enjoying myself watching JFC for the 5th time perhaps, taking in every little line of dialogue. What a perfect evening! Made me think how great HBO experience can be.
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"It's about to get real uncomfortable, real fast..."
David Milch
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Oct 3, 2007 12:23 PM
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IMPORTANT NEWS:
I took a chance and emailed someone who worked closely on JFC. This person did respond by phone this afternoon but asked that I do not disclose their name.
I now know that there IS a chance that JFC could become an internet type show or podcast. But we have to show that we have the numbers to support our request.
I was given this specific suggestion:
"On jmonad's youtube profile he has only 147 subscribers (friends)! So IF there were to be a new video added ONLY 147 would be informed of the release."
We need to get lots and lots of people to JOIN YOUTUBE and subscribe to the jmonad page, as well as all the other character video's, i.e., Dickstein, Mitch Yost, Shaun Yost, etc..
WE DO HAVE HBO's ATTENTION... and YES the threads are being read!
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Oct 1, 2007 6:11 PM
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I'm with you OMM1. The very day that Curb Your Enthusiasm ends is the day that I am finished with HBO.(Unless,of course, they manage to bring back JFC)
I was also a huge fan of Carnivale and have yet to get over the horrible montage(with VO) ending that they crapped on us in the final episode. The ending episode of JFC was far worse. Linc on a megaphone summing up the plot at a pep rally while all of the characters look on is an absolute disgrace and insults the intelligence of the show's audience. At least Carnivale had SOME closure in it's final moments. JFC's ending was a complete and utter artistic failure, a slap in the face to those of us who invested 10 weeks into this otherwise AWESOME show. Shame on HBO.
Here is a tip for the goons at HBO who red-light and green-light the shows which make air. If you are not sure about a show surviving into a second season...demand that the creators/writers come up with an ending that provides closure for the audience, even if it means shooting alternate endings. The endings to both Carnivale and JFC were a total disgrace.
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Sep 26, 2007 5:41 PM
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WORK HERE:
Please DIGG http://www.SaveJFC.net NOW
If you haven't already done so, please go the the site and hit the Digg button and follow the instructions (if any). If we get 50+ hits within 24 hours we get on the Digg frontpage and on their feed which will get us exposed to even more people.
And I'm really busy today or I would do this myself... I just got the new SaveJFC.net newsletter/mailing list sent and now I have to work on the video. If you read this please post this digg request on other threads, your websites or email your friends and ask them to help.
Very gratefully yours,
Trishah
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Sep 16, 2007 10:29 PM
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Here's an idea...If you are as angry as I am about the cancellation of John From Cincinnati send HBO a message and cancel your service. I am a huge fan of Curb Your Enthusiasm so I won't be cancelling right away but, mark my words, in 9 weeks when CYE is over, I am done with HBO...FOREVER. The loss of CARNIVALE almost sent me over the edge a few years back but the loss of JFC is too much to bear. What really makes me angry is that the final episodes of BOTH of these series were obviously written with the knowledge that the series was to be cancelled and I found the payoff of these final episodes to be appalling. To invest 9 weeks of my life in JFC and have the final episode involve a pep rally where a major character wraps up the plot on a megaphone pisses me off to no end.
How HBO sees fit to bring back garbage like Taxicab Confessions and shows about real life whorehouses, season after season, is a mystery that I am no longer willing to subsidize. John From Cincinnati fans UNITE! Vote with your wallets and cancel HBO. After Curb Your Enthusiasm ends, the programming is all crap anyway.
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Sep 6, 2007 12:39 PM
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> Butchie: Hey, I am the president for life of the
> Tina Blake can go fuck herself club
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> And that too if you got some room left
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> Oh, we should bring his mother and your mother here
> so they can both “shep naches”.
This is actually one of my favorite lines. I think it's hilarious, but also telling of Butchie being so hurt by Tina. Which made me love the character even more when even though he feels this way continues to help her see her son. This show has so many instances of redemption and forgiveness. I think that is the feeling that we can't shake about the show. All of these people all of us. We are all flawed. We all have things about ourselves that are so dark and we think that we are horrible creatures. But Milch helps to send this message, that there is hope for everyone no matter what your particular "sins" are. Also, people are substantially better off with other people who can accept those things. This "message" or whatever you want to call it is very renewing and refreshing. I now that I am literally moved to tears sometimes when I think about how deep the story really is. What Milch was trying to convey while probably battling some demons of his own. How talanted must he be to be able to get his message across in such an intertaining way. And also, (while I am still on my soapbox) I am really glad that his characters were kind of brash and vulger and rough around the edges. That's what made them so realistic. I keep wondering when I hear people complain that the characters not realistic, I wonder, where these people come from? Can anyone else relate to that thought? It boggles me.
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Sep 5, 2007 8:22 AM
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> Sometimes it takes sticking around and give things
> a chance to work out.
Too bad HBO didn't hear this one.
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Re: Episode 5: His Visit Day Four
Sep 5, 2007 12:50 AM
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And of course Freddy asking Palaka "What do you see"
Its not the last time he does that. Palaka's answers are very interesting too. Very telling...
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Oh, we should bring his mother and your mother here so they can both “shep naches”.
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