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After enlisting a young woman named Cass to infiltrate the Yost inner circle, Linc pays Mitch a personal visit, looking to sponsor Shaun and promising not to resort to the kind of "bad boy" image tactics that corrupted Butchie. In the meantime, Butchie tries to get a line on John, with little success. Snug Harbor owner Barry has a change of heart about the motel's fate, then becomes convinced a room is haunted, unnerving Ramon. Mitch allows Shaun to compete in a Huntington surfing competition, with unexpected results. A greasy drug dealer named Steady Freddy arrives to harass Butchie, but changes his tune when bad news arrives.
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Re: Episode 1: His Visit Day Two
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Beautiful. Thanks Wax.
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Butchie: That call was a mistake.
Freddy: No that call was a fucking favor to me. It reminded me of what a fuckup you turned into, instead of who I watched surf Rocky Point.
Butchie: I was pissed off you beat me on the fucking buy.
Freddy: You got no business buying a lid of smack.
Butchie: I got a fucking injury settlement. I was looking to make a move. Its not like I got many left.
Freddy: Fuck your sad story, Butchie. Youd have OD-ed and died before you sold your third bag. (noticing John) What are you looking at, big eyes? You want some of that?
John: I want some.
Freddy: Yeah? (Freddy comes forward and slaps John hard. Johns head turns with the blow, but there otherwise seems to be little effect. Freddy takes a couple steps back and looks curiously at John.)
Butchie: Freddy, he aint all there.
Freddy: Yeah, well, now hes there even less.
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Freddy: Instead of what you want to see, see what the fuck is in front of you. Its how you get 17 safe deposits. Fuck you surfing Rocky Point! Fuck watching you from my fucking porch!
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Butchie: I didnt drop a dime on you, Freddy, if youre thinking about killing me in that car.
Here's a view from Freddie's porch!
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Mar 31, 2008 7:03 PM
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Hi Everyone we are going to be watching and chatting on tonights episode on the episode 10 thread if you would like to join us please come bye
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Feb 12, 2008 9:09 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA0pE0vio34
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> priceless
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Jan 27, 2008 2:10 PM
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i am so pissed about the cancellation of this show. It is the one HBO series that i actually watched and enjoyed. I am not a big TV person but this is the one series i have ever watched weekly and planned on continuing to watch weekly. The cancellation is a big joke and half of the other shows are not even nearly as good as john from cincinnati was and do not deserve to be aired. Flight of the Concords? are you kidding me that show is terrible. John from Cincinnati invokes individuals to use critical thinking skills. The show leaves individuals wondering what will happen next and allows them to configure their own ideas on the show. It is like a good book, i good book keeps the reader guessing unlike every other show that lays everything out in chronilogical order without any interaction of thought whatsoever. I now strongly dislike HBO and will most likely cancel my subscription to the program entirely. and on top of cancelling the show, you can not even find the series at any local walmart or blockbuster, that is just rediculous. Thanks a lot now i can not even purchase the series for myself cause i certainly will not purchase it from HBO, who cancelled the show.
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Jan 16, 2008 6:38 PM
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I miss this show soo much, that's it, was just thinking about it today,
ps thanks Eccles for your fabulous and inspiring commentary, except now I wanna cry cause I miss it even more,
insert here a calamity jane quote !!
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Jan 16, 2008 5:48 PM
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> Eccles, and I loved when Butchie gets out of
> Freddie's car and says"Thanks for not killing me".
There were so many great lines in the episode, and that was one of them, for sure.
One of my favorites lines was when Barry, after seeing the ghost in Room 24, says: "This morning, I woke up happy. I mistook that freedom for power."
After surviving the previous day's trauma, Barry awakens bright-eyed and full of plans, convinced he can manage just fine. However, the ghost showed him what's what, as Ramon quips.
After Linc does his best to convince the Yosts that he can manage Shaun's surfing career without the pitfalls which vexed Butchie's, they set out to Huntington only to find everything suddenly unmanageable. One big wave can do that to you.
Freddy thought he could manage looking out for Butchie even from a far away vantage point in Hawaii. He comes to California when he realizes Butchie has become unmanageable.
Butchie, surprised that he's not dope-sick, helps the child-like John manage his way around the busy streets. He thinks he has life momentarily by the tail until Freddy hits him, and his father phones him with the horrific news about Shaun's accident.
Bill thinks things are working out okay as the he watches the Yosts set off for Shaun's competition. He think that maybe Butchie and his "jerk-off friend" might even make their way there. Things seem to be working out. Even though he briefly wonders whether the minor quake was in his head or really happened, a quick call to the police station reassures him that he is in fact managing just fine. All that changes in a heartbeat as Bill, dozing by the TV, hears the news.
In the episode, each one of these characters come face to face with something unmanageable; something which quickly tells them they are not really as in charge of things as they thought. Bill Jacks is perhaps the first to admit this, and based on his experiences of the previous day, takes action in a way which leads him up the dark hospital stairs towards something he knows he can't possibly control or fully comprehend. It is, though, a way which leads to his own healing.
Have I mentioned lately that I love this show?
Edited to add, while I'm thinking of it, that I love the fact that an earthquake takes place in the episode. Talk about something that can shake you to your foundations. People addicted to one thing or another often feel as if they have it under control; that they're managing. The earthquake shook up all of these characters at once, with consequences which put the lie to the notion for many of them.
Have I mentioned lately that I love this show?
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Jan 12, 2008 8:19 PM
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Eccles, and I loved when Butchie gets out of Freddie's car and says"Thanks for not killing me".
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Jan 12, 2008 7:07 PM
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> In Milch's work, "family" takes on a somewhat more
> expansive meaning. In Deadwood, for example, one of
> the most enduring images of a type of family was seen
> in Season Two as Al Swearingen's doctor, two of his
> henchmen, and a crippled servant all huddled around
> him following his near death. It's an image deeply
> imbedded in the minds of any fan of that series.
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Hi Ecclesfan,
I watched this episode of DW today for the first time.. while feeling utter contempt for Al during the entire Season 1.. I felt differently after I viewed this episode.. each character depends on Al for strength, and guidance.
Thanks for the post.
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Jan 3, 2008 3:12 PM
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One of the themes of JFC is that of family. Today, we hear a lot about family values, "traditional marriage", and much almost fetish-like carping about the nucular family.
In Milch's work, "family" takes on a somewhat more expansive meaning. In Deadwood, for example, one of the most enduring images of a type of family was seen in Season Two as Al Swearingen's doctor, two of his henchmen, and a crippled servant all huddled around him following his near death. It's an image deeply imbedded in the minds of any fan of that series.
In this episode of JFC, we see the Yost family coming apart as Shaun is taken to the hospital. Mitch bolts after Cissy unloads on him and threatens to kill him in his sleep. In the next episode, we watch him leave the hospital with Cass. On the other hand, we also see Freddie, who has come all the way from Hawaii, uncertain why, punching Butchie in the mouth. Butchie fears that Freddie might well kill him. Instead, Freddie pulls his gun only to force Butchie to drive to the hospital to be with his son. In the next episode, while Mitch leaves the hospital, Freddie stays, anxious to know what is going on, and even being of assistance as the family, with Shaun intact, makes their getaway.
A drug-dealing, gun-carrying thug and his junkie client act more like a family than the actual family in question. The thug facilitates the event at the hospital in which the junkie son supports his mother in the way her husband should have ... and all that, given their back-story.
I am in awe of the mind which conceives such things.
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Nov 2, 2007 8:48 AM
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"John From Cincinnati" back on the FRONT page of Hey! Jon Nielsen today! YEAH still at #11....
Please continue to post opinions daily on Hey!Nielsen.com JFC numbers today are
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> Anyway, if you notice, it appears that John hears
> Butchie's thoughts at this point, and what just
> occurred to me is this is only because he is focused
> on the elephant cage.
I'm convinced he was hearing Butchie's thoughts.
Good idea, about the Elephant Cage.
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Oct 17, 2007 3:16 AM
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I watched this episode again today, and I was wondering about John/Butchie on the pier.
I've said before that I think John's father's words are our own words but purified.
Anyway, if you notice, it appears that John hears Butchie's thoughts at this point, and what just occurred to me is this is only because he is focused on the elephant cage.
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Oct 3, 2007 12:23 PM
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IMPORTANT NEWS:
I took a chance and emailed someone who worked closely on JFC. This person did respond by phone this afternoon but asked that I do not disclose their name.
I now know that there IS a chance that JFC could become an internet type show or podcast. But we have to show that we have the numbers to support our request.
I was given this specific suggestion:
"On jmonad's youtube profile he has only 147 subscribers (friends)! So IF there were to be a new video added ONLY 147 would be informed of the release."
We need to get lots and lots of people to JOIN YOUTUBE and subscribe to the jmonad page, as well as all the other character video's, i.e., Dickstein, Mitch Yost, Shaun Yost, etc..
WE DO HAVE HBO's ATTENTION... and YES the threads are being read!
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