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John gets roughed up by some thugs; Kai connects with Butchie; Vietnam Joe brings Dr. Smith a new patient; Shaun's adult-film-star mother Tina arrives in Imperial Beach
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Apr 1, 2008 9:19 PM
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Jan 27, 2008 2:11 PM
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i am so pissed about the cancellation of this show. It is the one HBO series that i actually watched and enjoyed. I am not a big TV person but this is the one series i have ever watched weekly and planned on continuing to watch weekly. The cancellation is a big joke and half of the other shows are not even nearly as good as john from cincinnati was and do not deserve to be aired. Flight of the Concords? are you kidding me that show is terrible. John from Cincinnati invokes individuals to use critical thinking skills. The show leaves individuals wondering what will happen next and allows them to configure their own ideas on the show. It is like a good book, i good book keeps the reader guessing unlike every other show that lays everything out in chronilogical order without any interaction of thought whatsoever. I now strongly dislike HBO and will most likely cancel my subscription to the program entirely. and on top of cancelling the show, you can not even find the series at any local walmart or blockbuster, that is just rediculous. Thanks a lot now i can not even purchase the series for myself cause i certainly will not purchase it from HBO, who cancelled the show.
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Jan 5, 2008 12:13 PM
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> > I'd like to join Waxon. It is wonderful that now
> we
> > are being given a refresher course in JFC
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> Thanks. I wanted to let the series as a whole sink in
> and be able to ruminate on it for a while before
> commenting again. Plus, I got busy with some writing
> and other matters and didn't have time. A break was
> in order.
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> My little commentaries are really for my own benefit,
> done to help me articulate just why JFC made such an
> impression on me. I figured I'd write the stuff here
> instead of in a journal somewhere just in case
> someone else might find it interesting. "Share and
> share alike. Right, Carnal?"
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What is so incredibly touching, Eccles, is the way that you tease out the threads of emotion driving each character. It gives inew nsight into their actions and choices. Yes, we are enjoying your thoughts very much and thank you for sharing them with us.
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Jan 5, 2008 11:58 AM
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> I'd like to join Waxon. It is wonderful that now we
> are being given a refresher course in JFC
Thanks. I wanted to let the series as a whole sink in and be able to ruminate on it for a while before commenting again. Plus, I got busy with some writing and other matters and didn't have time. A break was in order.
My little commentaries are really for my own benefit, done to help me articulate just why JFC made such an impression on me. I figured I'd write the stuff here instead of in a journal somewhere just in case someone else might find it interesting. "Share and share alike. Right, Carnal?"
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Jan 5, 2008 11:49 AM
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> Ecclesfan, just so you know, I am anxiously awaiting
> your each post as you continue to find excellent
> insights into each episode. I think I can speak for
> the others, on these threads when I say that your
> insights only add to our appreciation for the series
> and leave us wanting more.
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> Thanks for your time and effort.
Thank you.
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Jan 5, 2008 1:11 AM
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I'd like to join Waxon. It is wonderful that now we are being given a refresher course in JFC taught by such a distinguished scholar (and I suspect a writer also!) as Ecclesfan.
Reading his posts somehow reminds me of a good- thoughtful and heartfelt church service, (or a sermon?). It turns your eyes into your soul and ultimately, brings you back to the source of your spiritual quest, be it Bible, Q'uaran, Dhammapada or may be 10 episodes of John from Cincinnati, as it is in our case.
Thank you, Ecclesfan.
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Jan 5, 2008 12:49 AM
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Ecclesfan, just so you know, I am anxiously awaiting your each post as you continue to find excellent insights into each episode. I think I can speak for the others, on these threads when I say that your insights only add to our appreciation for the series and leave us wanting more.
Thanks for your time and effort.
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Jan 4, 2008 1:10 PM
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My alternative title for this episode: NEW RULES. (Apologies to Bill Maher.)
Linc tells Cissy: "Today isn't yesterday, Cissy, and I'm not clear on what the new rules are, but I know the old ones have been canceled."
The first person we see leaving "yesterday" behind and living by new rules is Dr. Smith. He cuts his ties with the hospital, and almost immediately is sent two new patients in Palaka and John. The former even walks by Dr. Smith at the very moment he is informing Lewinsky of his plans.
Palaka is the one who tells us that Freddy is contemplating leaving yesterday behind and starting something new by revealing what his boss says in his sleep: "Is two days off a crime? Do I ever get to fucking relax?"
In this episode, Barry announces his plans to leave yesterday behind and make some new rules by scrapping his old relationship with Ramon and Dickstein, both under his employ, and instead forming with them "a working business partnership."
Bill Jacks announces a few new rules of his own which he intends to impose upon himself. He is going to put some distance between him and the Yost family. A little later, though, he finds himself being called upon once again to help them find John. Later, while Bill is at the motel, he sees Freddy with whom he trades barbs, reestablishing the familiar boundaries between cop and perp. However, by the end of the episode, at Zippy's insistence, he is bringing coffee and a box of Winchell's assorted dozen to the crook, a "shitbird" he would normally deal with by "putting in bracelets" under the old paradigm.
Cass sets a few new rules of her own when she kicks Mitch out, thus flunking "yesterday's" assignment, and getting her fired by Linc.
In order for Kai and Butchie to be reunited as a couple, they need to leave yesterday behind. That is a tough one for Kai who has been hurt in the past by being abandoned by Butchie. Like Bill in an earlier scene, she begins establishing her own little ground rules - "You can't say the music blows" ... "No freaking out about my piercings." But, Butchie behaves and speaks with her in a caring and gentle way which moves past all this.
The episode ends as Tina appears. She is back because she does not want yesterday to be today any longer, even as intimidating as this is to her.
As Episode Three ended at nightfall, we heard Muse singing about how "it's a new dawn, it's a new day, it's a new life." This seems to have been the perfect thought with which to get ready for this Fourth Episode.
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Oct 8, 2007 8:45 PM
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Here is the link to this quote origins, in case someone is interested.
It's a huge website, so when you follow the link, you'll be taken to a search help.
Type 'prognosticator' in the bottom search bar.
http://www.boomerbible.com/google.htm
Enjoy, there is a lot of interesting games, riddles and serious staff also.
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Oct 7, 2007 4:16 PM
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The ideas behind "Appointment in Samarra" still fascinate me. For many years.
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=949034
And here is something to exercise your knowledge.
The guide is alphabet and ...
The Words of the Prognosticator, Nostradamus, Muse of the Wise in the Lands of the Chosen:
2 Inanity of inanities, said the Seer, inanity of inanities; all is inanity.
3 What profit comes from the labors of men, however long they toil in the noonday sun?
4 New generations come, and old generations go; yet all men have their own appointment in Samarra.
5 All of them will have a long day's journey into night, from the age of innocence to the end of the affair.
6 The beautiful and damned will ride together, on a streetcar named desire, to the lighthouse on the beach, where all the vile bodies are waiting for Godot.
7 And from here there will be no exit; no second coming will arrest the course of the clockwork orange, which rises from under the volcano, and arcs like gravity's own rainbow toward death in the afternoon.
8 Yes, all men are doomed to inanity: the rabbit may run from the animal farm, but I have learned that all roads lead to the bullet park, and all journeys end in a handful of dust.
9 For I have been a Seer in the Lands of the Chosen; and I have seen all that has been, and all that will be, and all of it is inanity.
10 What will be will be; and what has already been will be again.
11 Neither is there any name which will not be spoken again; nor any number which will not be counted more.
12 And of all the names and numbers that ever were, they all add up to inanity.
I will provide the link to this quote tomorrow, OK?
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Oct 7, 2007 3:25 PM
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I Can't believe you guys are still talking about JFC.
Get over it and Move ON!
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Oct 7, 2007 2:22 PM
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> As I watched this episode again last night, I was
> very touched by Dr. Smith. At the pier and with the
> Avon lady, he was so innocent and new to life. Sort
> of awkward and in awe. I keep having a new favorite
> character. I'm not being fickle, I just love them
> all.
Hi 2son... please come join us on the "member created threads!"
I was touched by that scene as well. I got the impression that Dr. Smith really wants to learn from John. He (Smith) seems to be the one tying everything to John and the paranormal.
I felt attached to this scene:
As they (John & Smith) stood in parking lot of "Snug Harbor"... The 180 turns by both John and Smith seemed as if Smith seeking answers from John. I loved the boyish grin on Dr. Smith's face! He seemed so happy.
Did anyone get the same feeling?
Also...
Mitch, I feel is starting to connect the dots as he refers to John as the "Joker in the Deck"
2son... please come join us on the "member created threads!"
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Oct 7, 2007 1:57 PM
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As I watched this episode again last night, I was very touched by Dr. Smith. At the pier and with the Avon lady, he was so innocent and new to life. Sort of awkward and in awe. I keep having a new favorite character. I'm not being fickle, I just love them all.
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Oct 3, 2007 12:25 PM
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IMPORTANT NEWS:
I took a chance and emailed someone who worked closely on JFC. This person did respond by phone this afternoon but asked that I do not disclose their name.
I now know that there IS a chance that JFC could become an internet type show or podcast. But we have to show that we have the numbers to support our request.
I was given this specific suggestion:
"On jmonad's youtube profile he has only 147 subscribers (friends)! So IF there were to be a new video added ONLY 147 would be informed of the release."
We need to get lots and lots of people to JOIN YOUTUBE and subscribe to the jmonad page, as well as all the other character video's, i.e., Dickstein, Mitch Yost, Shaun Yost, etc..
WE DO HAVE HBO's ATTENTION... and YES the threads are being read!
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Re: Episode 4: His Visit Day Three
Oct 1, 2007 6:09 PM
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I'm with you OMM1. The very day that Curb Your Enthusiasm ends is the day that I am finished with HBO.(Unless,of course, they manage to bring back JFC)
I was also a huge fan of Carnivale and have yet to get over the horrible montage(with VO) ending that they crapped on us in the final episode. The ending episode of JFC was far worse. Linc on a megaphone summing up the plot at a pep rally while all of the characters look on is an absolute disgrace and insults the intelligence of the show's audience. At least Carnivale had SOME closure in it's final moments. JFC's ending was a complete and utter artistic failure, a slap in the face to those of us who invested 10 weeks into this otherwise AWESOME show. Shame on HBO.
Here is a tip for the goons at HBO who red-light and green-light the shows which make air. If you are not sure about a show surviving into a second season...demand that the creators/writers come up with an ending that provides closure for the audience, even if it means shooting alternate endings. The endings to both Carnivale and JFC were a total disgrace.
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