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What will be George Bush?s legacy?
Can Pres. Bush help create a peaceful resolution between Israelis and the Palestinians?
How has the Bush/Cheney Whitehouse changed the nation?
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Re: The Bush Administration
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> "The Bush Administration is an immoral and criminal
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> You defend it.
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> What does that make you?"
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> It makes me not blind to the facts Jet. Unlike you I
> don't let hatred drive my life and my thoughts. It
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> enemy. It allows me to know the difference between
> who the good guys are and who the bad, and yes
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> wonder whether they?re more interested in the rights
> of the terrorists than in protecting the American
> people."
henry,
But the Iraqi people weren't our enemies. And Hussein was not a threat to us. And they had nothing to do with 9/11 and they had no WMDs. And we've kept war going in their country for years despite the fact that they are not our enemies. I didn't make up casualty numbers. It's a reasonable estimate from adding up all of the casualty numbers posted on wiki and doesn't even include all of the wounded. Or the POWs we've tortured to death.
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Jun 24, 2008 5:07 PM
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"I don't know why there is a war on terror? "
That's ok, go back to sleeping.
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"Sometimes, based on the votes that get cast, you wonder whether they?re more interested in the rights of the terrorists than in protecting the American people."
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"What did you think you'd find on a Bill Maher site NeoCon Central???!!! "
I was expecting people who could think for themselves rather than following the looney left to the abyss.
"Most people on this site think for themselves"
Actually you don't, you all sound the same, everyone of you. The same rants, the same whines, the same lies.
"Unless you're making over $200,000 a year Republican policies are not in your best interest."
I do good because in this country when you're honest and work hard, you can do good. I don't waste my time whining and crying about anything, government doesn't define my life. This is what I've found out observing the left and the right, and I used to consider myself on the left at one time. But the left whines too much, is too dependent on government to run their lives, the left expects the government to solve their problems. But I'm not like that, I don't expect big brother to run my life.
"The FIRST words of the Constitution (remember it?) are "We the People" NOT "We the Corporations"!!! "
There are lots of corporations out there, and I'm sure your life has benefited from many one way or another. Stop your whining and work a little harder, figure out a plan to succeed and work towards that. Stop depending on government and for your own sake, quit complaining about everything.
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"Sometimes, based on the votes that get cast, you wonder whether they?re more interested in the rights of the terrorists than in protecting the American people."
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Jun 24, 2008 5:01 PM
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I don't know why there is a war on terror?
There can not be a war against ourselves.
Look up the word terrorism. Does George W. Bush come up.
In stores soon!
Besides, the terrorists are in the Pentagon and White House.
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Jun 24, 2008 4:52 PM
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"The Bush Administration is an immoral and criminal one.
You defend it.
What does that make you?"
It makes me not blind to the facts Jet. Unlike you I don't let hatred drive my life and my thoughts. It makes me side witrh my country rather than with the enemy. It allows me to know the difference between who the good guys are and who the bad, and yes America is the good guy.
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"Sometimes, based on the votes that get cast, you wonder whether they?re more interested in the rights of the terrorists than in protecting the American people."
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Vincent Bugliosi was on "The Lionel Show" on Air America this morning promoting his new book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush" if you want to listen to it on reprise. A caller brought up the"Project for a New American Century". Check out the number of Bush misadministration signatories, etc. on the Wikipedia entry for PNAC:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pnac
More power to Bugliosi!!! Hope we can Make It Happen!!!
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Jun 24, 2008 10:43 AM
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Henryvelez,
What did you think you'd find on a Bill Maher site NeoCon Central???!!! Most people on this site think for themselves, research political events & policies & aren't sheep to be fleeced & led to slaughter. Unless you're making over $200,000 a year Republican policies are not in your best interest. The FIRST words of the Constitution (remember it?) are "We the People" NOT "We the Corporations"!!!
Jetfuel2,
Amen on all points!!!
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Jun 24, 2008 8:46 AM
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The Bush Administration is an immoral and criminal one.
You defend it.
What does that make you?
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Jun 24, 2008 7:35 AM
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"No Henry, you are simply unable to see them and are then convinced that they do not exist.
They do."
In your mind I'm sure they do. But the facts are not as you wish they were, you don't get to blame Bush for murders comitted by others. In your mind you and other lefties do, but reality is different.
Liberals live in a world where there's only 1 bad guy, and that's Bush. Reality however, knows different.
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Jun 24, 2008 7:31 AM
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""Day and night, they were shifting me from one room to another room,"
He was used to moving from one cave to another no doubt.
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Jun 24, 2008 7:28 AM
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"Are you & the Bush misadministration the only ones allowed to make up "the facts"? "
The only fact I've mentioned here is the fact that liberals are liars. And excuse me for not going along with your usual left wing hatred of anything American and your usual whining about pres Bush.
To read the posts of all the liberals here, you'd think the US is the worse country in the world, when in fact it's the best one hands down.
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Re: The Bush Administration
Jun 24, 2008 7:23 AM
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"Check wiki on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, add up all of the casualty estimates. "
And you could add millions more if you include the dead in other parts of the world caused by Bush, like the Sunami's, earthquakes, famines, Katrina and a few other disasters no doubt ordered and engineered by this White House.
It seems that your hatred towards Bush doesn't allow you to see reality Ms Kincaid.
The radical left loves to place blame in the wrong places, and as you've shown, they love to make things up as well.
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Pam,
Thank you too! great to see you back 
from Salon.com
The war on teen terror
The Bush administration's treatment of juvenile prisoners shipped to Guantánamo Bay defies logic as well as international law.
Editor's note: Since May, staff members of Human Rights Watch have been reporting on U.S. judicial proceedings at Guantánamo for Salon.
By Jo Becker
Reuters
Guantánamo detainee Omar Khadr, in an undated family portrait.
June 24, 2008 | GUANTÁNAMO BAY, Cuba -- When Mohammed Jawad took the stand in a courtroom at the U.S. Naval base here late last week, he described a litany of abuse he has endured while detained at Guantánamo, including a sleep deprivation regime known colloquially as the "frequent flyer" program.
"Day and night, they were shifting me from one room to another room," Jawad said. "I don't remember how much time I slept, but it was only a short time before they were knocking on my door and shifting me from place to place. No one answered me why they were giving me this punishment."
Military records showed that during a 14-day period in May 2004, Jawad was moved from cell to cell 112 times, usually left in one cell for less than three hours before being shackled and moved to another. Between midnight and 2 a.m. he was moved more frequently to ensure maximum disruption of sleep.
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Such tactics used against a detainee would have been severe under any circumstances -- Department of Defense guidance limits sleep deprivation to a maximum of four days -- but in the case of Jawad, they are particularly disturbing because he was a scared and suicidal teenager at the time. Jawad's military-appointed lawyer, Maj. David Frakt, described the tactics as "sadistic and pointless," and moved to dismiss the charges against his client on grounds of torture.
Jawad was arrested by Afghan police in December 2002 after allegedly throwing a grenade into a U.S. army vehicle in Afghanistan that severely injured two U.S. soldiers and their Afghan translator. Frakt argues that Jawad was drugged and forced to fight with Afghan militia. Jawad doesn't know his exact birth date, but was 16 or 17 years old at the time. In early 2003, he was brought to Guantánamo.
According to government records obtained by the Associated Press under the Freedom of Information Act, more than 20 detainees under the age of 18 have been brought to the prison camp since 2002. The treatment of underage prisoners at Guantánamo, largely in defiance of international law, is one of various ways in which the Bush administration's policies have tainted prospects for Guantánamo detainees ever to be brought to justice under U.S. law.
Although most of the 20 juvenile detainees have now been released, three remain, having spent more than a quarter of their lives at Guantánamo. The other two juvenile detainees were each only 15 years old when they were apprehended. Mohammad El Gharani was arrested at a mosque in Pakistan and brought to Guantánamo in early 2002. Omar Khadr, a Canadian, was apprehended in July 2002 after a firefight in Afghanistan that resulted in the death of a U.S. soldier. Held for several months in Afghanistan, he was barely 16 when he arrived here later that same year.
The presence of juveniles at Guantánamo first came to light in 2003, when media reports revealed the age of the youngest detainee at Guantánamo -- who was only 13 years old. Unable to explain how a 13-year-old could be classified as being among "the worst of the worst," as top Bush officials had described Guantánamo's prisoner population, the Pentagon realized it had a PR problem on its hands. It quickly created a special camp for the three detainees between ages 13 and 15. At Camp Iguana, these children received math and English classes and access to a social worker and recreational facilities. Bizarrely and perhaps without any sense of irony, they were permitted to watch movies including "Cast Away." Defense Department officials proudly gave tours of the special facility.
That year, on behalf of Human Rights Watch, I had several meetings with Pentagon representatives to discuss the fate of these children. In early 2004, they were released to UNICEF in Afghanistan for rehabilitation. But whenever I tried to raise the case of Omar Khadr (we were unaware of El Gharani and Jawad's cases at the time) I received the same response: "Khadr is off the table; we will not discuss Khadr."
Unlike with the three boys held at Camp Iguana and released for rehabilitation, the Pentagon has never acknowledged the juvenile status of Khadr, Jawad or El Gharani. Although international law provides that anyone under 18 is a child and entitled to special treatment, the Defense Department created its own standard: Anyone who was 16 would automatically be treated as an adult. When I asked Defense Department officials in 2004 about the rationale for this policy, they had no reply. One official finally admitted to me that it was completely arbitrary.
During last week's hearing, Frakt, Jawad's attorney, asked the prosecutor who authorized the charges against Jawad: "You did not believe his age was worthy of bringing to the attention of the convening authority?" Lt. Col. William Britt's answer: "No, I didn't."
The Bush administration's refusal to treat these prisoners as juveniles has had profound consequences for Khadr, Jawad and El-Gharani. They have had no access to education or recreation facilities and have been housed in the same facilities as adult detainees. After five years of imprisonment, Jawad remains functionally illiterate. None of the three have been allowed to see members of their family.
The effects of prolonged isolation have taken a severe toll. El Gharani has tried to commit suicide at least seven times. He has slit his wrist, run repeatedly into the sides of his cell and tried to hang himself. On several occasions he has been placed on suicide watch in a mental health unit.
Jawad also tried to commit suicide about 11 months after arriving in Guantánamo, by hanging himself by his shirt collar. Prison records also state that he "attempted self-harm by banging his head off of metal structures inside his cell."
On the witness stand last week Jawad referred to his suicide attempt. "Islam never permits [suicide], but when a person is in great trouble, it was beyond my control. That's why I tried that." His lawyer says that Jawad seems to have lost touch with reality and suffers from major depression.
At O'Kelley's bar, an incongruous Irish pub at the naval base here, journalists, defense lawyers and human rights observers gather to talk about the bizarre world of Guantánamo. I've heard people express disbelief repeatedly that although the United States has detained nearly 700 suspects at Guantánamo since its inception, it has singled out two juveniles to be among the first detainees prosecuted under the military commissions. Officials associated with the military commissions have suggested that the youths? alleged direct attacks on U.S. soldiers would "capture the imagination" of the American public.
Strikingly, it was just around the time that Khadr, El Gharani and Jawad were transferred to Guantánamo that the U.S. ratified an international treaty barring the use of children under 18 in armed conflict. The treaty also obligates governments to help rehabilitate child soldiers and help them reintegrate into society.
In some respects, the U.S. has taken its new responsibilities seriously: Each branch of the armed forces adopted new policies to keep American military personnel out of combat until they reach age 18 and to delay deployment of 17-year-old volunteers. Since 2001, the U.S. has also contributed more than $34 million around the globe to prevent the recruitment and use of child soldiers and to demobilize and reintegrate child combatants. Since 2003, $4.5 million in U.S. funds has supported a demobilization program for over 5,000 former child soldiers in Afghanistan.
The commitment to rehabilitation, however, seems to be missing in action when child soldiers engaging U.S. forces are captured.
Khadr's attorneys argued at Guantánamo in February that as a former child soldier, Khadr should not be tried before a military commission. They claimed that international law obligates the U.S. to treat Khadr as a victim, not to punish him, and that Congress did not give the military tribunals jurisdiction over crimes by juveniles. The military judge rejected their motion.
As the proceedings move forward the U.S. continues to turn a blind eye to Khadr's juvenile status. Recently, his attorneys requested funding to secure a child psychologist and psychiatrist as expert witnesses at Khadr's trial. Those requests also were denied.
International law does not preclude the possibility of prosecuting former child soldiers for serious criminal offenses. But the standards are very clear: Such cases should be handled as quickly as possible through specialized juvenile justice systems. Rehabilitation must be the primary objective, and conditions of detention must include access to family, education, recreation and other special assistance.
On every count, the U.S. has failed at Guantánamo to meet these requirements.
The judge in Khadr's case announced last week that Khadr's trial would begin on October 8. Even if acquitted, however, the U.S. government has said that it may continue to detain him "in order to mitigate the threat posed by the detainee."
Jawad's hearings will resume in August.
El Gharani has not been charged, and spends his days languishing in a cell with little more than a mattress, a copy of the Quran and toilet paper.
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Re: The Bush Administration = THE END GAME IS HERE
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wow ...it has been a busy day I see in here i see! ...and THANKS RAINEY FOR THE GREAT INFORMATIVE POSTS! [Thanks Jet for your brilliance & thanks for the humorous - read! FOR MSM - I will do the 15 min. CNN to see what the regime TALKING POINTS - are for the day ....but I only watch Democracy Now...for real news these days & read TRUTHOUT - AND A FEW ONLINE GATHERING PLACES LIKE information clearing house ... I have been sick and tired of the strange mainstream 'news' that is apparently only confusing more and more Americans [which is also no accident ]- divide and seperate & keep everyone confused and fighting amoungst themselves- is only part of the art of war...but is non-the-less = quite effective isn't it? ...all the blogs are clear demonstrations of this - in my opinion anyway....although entertaining to read - this is getting me personally ---quite nowhere!--no offense ----I am tired of arguing to ignorance ....I PUT IN MY TIME - I INVESTIGATED - I have come to accept some other opinions- but = I DO NOT BELIEVE ANYONE OR THING THAT IS NOT BACKED UP WITH FACTS - documents -etc.... of course I DON'T KNOW IT ALL ----but I am almost always right these days ;> & I am trying to spend more time EDUCATING as many people as I can ...writing articles that are nothing like these speed dial blogs & haVE taken some time ---but I have gotten through to a few people ---so it has been worth it ----THE TRUTH REALLY DOES SET YOU FREE ----as corny as that sounds!
Meanwhile - CONgress is meeting about steroids in horse racing now......more positive proof - our government part of our world has gone nuts[er] and our gov is = in all honesty - broken beyond repair... and worthless!
If our Congress was a reasonable percentage of what we have been paying them to do ---then they would be walking our talk for us - and instead be taking the will of the American people & our constitution & integrity seriously.
...INSTEAD =THEY KEEP FUNDING THE WAR AND PASSING ILLEGAL FISA BULLSHIT BECAUSE WHY?
... THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ENOUGH OF THEM TO EVER GET UP ONE DAY AND DECIDE TO BECOME REAL AMERICANS AGAIN AND TAKE THESE CRIMINAL SOCIOPATHS DOWN!
....OR TO DO THEIR DAMN JOB FOR A CHANGE and hold the regime and themselves accountable for THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTIONS AND ACTS -[like the Patriot Act from hell for example]
...and the murder of milliions of innocent people .& environments along with fauna and flora
...and trillions of embezzled dollars [just to name a few - but an illegal occupation - funded by public funds - is fraud and illegal within itself- nevermind the INSANITY of it all!]
....if even half of CONgress got up one day and actually cared enough [to even just stand up one day] and say "THE OCCUPATION OF IRAQ IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL" .
....the only ones doing so are KUCINACH AND A HANDFUL OF OTHERS LIKE WEXLER .. THAT ARE STANDING BY THE NEWEST 35 ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT ....but they are standing almost alone ....and that is also a glaring neon sign that should be showing us all that is will NOT MATTER ONE FUCKING BIT - WHO WINS - OR DOESN'T BECAUSE OUR CORRUPT CONGRESSS AND CONTROLLED MEDIA ARE BEING RUN BY ----THE BILDERBERG GROUP [no I am not going to shut up about them - as they are at the root of all of what is wrong with our country]- AND IGNORE THEM - AND YOU HAVE TOTALLY MISSED THE absolute REALITY OF OUR SITUATION COMPLETELY!
-------us registered DEMS = GOT THE BELOW democrat.com EMAIL TODAY-----hmmm -----
No More Betrayals: Let's Replace the Bush Democrats
On Thursday and Friday, the American people were betrayed twice by House "Democratic" Leader Steny Hoyer (right) and his Bush Democrats.
On Thursday, 80 Bush Democrats voted to give George Bush another $163 billion to occupy Iraq and plunder its oil for another year, even though 68% of Americans want to bring our troops safely home this year.
And on Friday, 105 Bush Democrats voted to give immunity to George Bush and the telecoms for illegally wiretapping American citizens even before 9/11, and to allow Bush and the telecoms to keep doing it - thereby shredding the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution.
We're mad as hell, and we're not gonna take it any more. So let's take the Democratic Party back from Steny Hoyer and the Bush Democrats.
With your support, we will replace each one with an "Aggressive Progressive" Democrat who will bring our troops home from Iraq and fulfill their solemn oaths to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."
And we're starting today with John Barrow (GA12), who betrayed us on both votes. Watch Barrow pledge his complete devotion to George Bush during Friday's warrantless wiretapping debate.
Georgia's primaries are on July 15 - just 3 weeks away. And Barrow is facing a dramatic primary challenge from State Senator Regina Thomas.
Thomas doesn't just look different, she thinks different. She wants to bring our troops safely home from Iraq immediately. And here's what she told me on Friday:
"I was really appalled at the actions of Congress and especially my Congressman from the 12th District in Georgia, John Barrow, for voting in favor of the Bush-Republican surveillance bill that would make it very easy, without a warrant, to wiretap any American citizen."
On Friday, Regina Thomas became our first endorsed candidate of 2008. And that was not just because she's an "Aggressive Progressive," but also because she can win.
In Georgia's Democratic Presidential primary on February 5, 70% of the voters in GA12 were African-American. Thomas isn't running on her race, though, but rather her record of accomplishment over 12 years in the state legislature. This has Barrow running for his political life by avoiding every chance to debate Thomas because he simply cannot compete with a real Democrat.
In a few hours, our endorsement raised over $1,176 from 31 donors. Today we'd like to raise $10,000 by encouraging 1,000 of our 500,000 subscribers to contribute $10 each directly to Regina Thomas's campaign.
Can you help?
http://www.actblue.com/page/bushdemocrats
In 2005-6, we raised nearly $80,000 for pro-impeachment House candidates through ImpeachPAC (and helped elect Keith Ellison in MN05), so I know what we're capable of.
Let's send a message to Steny Hoyer and his Bush Democrats: that the Democratic Party belongs to us, not to George Bush. And starting today we're taking it back.
Thanks for all you do!
Bob Fertik
Last year, Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL) launched WexlerWantsHearings.com to persuade Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Judiciary Chairman John Conyers to hold hearings on Rep. Dennis Kucinich's 3 Articles of Impeachment against Dick Cheney.
Last week, Rep. Wexler was the first Democrat to co-sponsor Dennis Kucinich's 35 Articles of Impeachment against George Bush (see below).
Now it's our turn to support a Democratic hero by pre-ordering Congressman Robert's Wexler's new book Fire-Breathing Liberal. Last week, Democrats.com members pushed Fire-Breathing Liberal right to the top of Amazon best-seller list. Let's do it again and show Washington that Robert Wexler speaks for us!
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Kucinich's 35 Articles of Impeachment - 5 Co-Sponsors and Growing...
On June 9, Rep. Dennis Kucinich made history on the floor of the House by reading 35 Articles of Impeachment against President George W. Bush, now H.Res. 1258.
In just six days, over 25,000 of you emailed your Representatives to co-sponsor the 35 Articles:
http://www.democrats.com/35-articles-of-impeachment
The first three co-sponsors were Robert Wexler (FL19), Lynn Woolsey (CA06), and Barbara Lee (CA09). On Thursday, they were joined by Tammy Baldwin (WI02) and Maurice Hinchey (NY22).
The charges presented by Rep. Kucinich are so serious that every Member of Congress should demand Judiciary Committee hearings by becoming a co-sponsor.
Here's what you can do to persuade your Representative:
http://www.democrats.com/impeachment-cosponsors-wanted
========I WILL GIVE NONE OF THEM A THIN DIME UNTIL THEY FIX THE VOTING FRAUD ====PERIOD====but if there is NO IMPEACHMENT EVEN STARTED - WHEN BUSH GIVES THE ATTACK IRAN COMMAND - THE MILITARY WILL HAVE TO COME TO CONGRESS BEFORE THEY DO SO ---IT IS THE ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT TO AT ALL STOP THE IRAN ATTACK =in my opinion anyway==
==time for CUERVO here!=YOOHOOO!==well if the above pep and prod =talk didn't work ===I guess I can just keep going on with speed typing a little more rant = as this is about the only time I will probably make for awhile in this blog - KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK THOUGH ---rainey - jet and all of you I admire ....AND THE REST OF YOU NUTCASES -----grow up---give yourself the gift of honesty ----and quit being part of the problem - instead of the solution!!..........[shot of cuervo anyone?].....
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ok= lets call it what it really is ---and start walking our talk with total honesty!
----"WHAT A FUCKING MESS!!!"
.... THE DISCONNECT IS NOT JUST IN THESE CANDIDATES - THE BULLSHIT AND AVOIDANCE OF ANY REAL GOVERNMENT FOR AMERICANS - THE BLOGS - OR OUR MEDIA ... OR WHATEVER WE MAY BE CHOOSING TO BLAME - THE BLAME STARTS RIGHT HERE WITH EACH ONE OF US ---->> YOUR CHOICE NOW IS ---TO BE = OR NOT TO BE ----A SHEEP!
...the Disconnect of reality in this entire political race for white house is that the fraudulent voting machines are still in place and the 'FIX' IS IN - AGAIN [as usual & we are sitting sheep AGAIN ----anyway!]
....the biggest ELECTION disconnect is the horrific reality that surrounds us currently = and TIME TO be TOTALLY honest - and admit that BUSH hAS BEEN VOTED IN TWICE IN A ROW WITH THESE MACHINES IN PLACE IN SEVERAL STATES [the American people are not to blame here clearly - until we have let it happen - twice ---and soon to be 3 times in a row!]
...and BILDERBERG GOT CLINTON IN THERE TWICE TOO ---believe it - he is ONE OF THEM - ALL THE WAY ---AND HILIARY TOTALLY IS TOO --->>>and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if he was also NOT actually voted in by the American people [BECAUSE LOTS OF US KNEW WHAT HE AND HIS REGIME WERE REALLY UP TO BACK THEN - just like we did w/bush sr and reagan and the rest of the crooks in high places---in spite of the media twists and spins because back then we still had a fairly credible BBC and our entire major media venues were not controlled until about the end of the Clinton Era [we can thank McCain for some of that too- the Jerk!]...BUT - we still had some 5 stars in there that would take the American people & our constitution seriously...[EVEN THOUGH CLINTON DISMANTLED YUGOSLAVIA AND also DU BOMBED THE HELL OUT THAT ENTIRE AREA -to name just a few of the other dirty little wars going on under his regime too = he betrayed our Soldiers with his HR-1959 AND HE BETRAYED OUR COUNTRY COMPLETELY WITH BILDERBERG'S NAFTA]
MY ONLY REAL POINT I GUESS IS THAT - WHAT EVER WE DO - SHOULD BE BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE OF MATTER AT HAND...AND EVEN THOUGH WE ARE SURROUNDED BY RAMPANT CORRUPTION [and the FIX is in as usual---if we do nothing about it ---then ARE WE NOT JUST AS MUCH TO BLAME? WE SHOULD LOOK AT TRUTH AND JUSTICE AND NEVER SURRENDER OUR OWN INTEGRITY [and NEVER GIVE UP!] ....or = we are no better than all of those thieveing bastards....and we would also be as they are= lowest life forms - of a murderer-liar-thief
I will only add that someone who is going to vote for McCain - because he is pissed off at how the dem candidate was chosen...[and at the same time admits he won't win anyway]...is seriously NOT THINKING OUT OF THE PROPAGANDIZED MEDIA BLACK BOX! ....clearly RON PAUL WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE OR EVEN NADER FOR THAT MATTER THAN MINI-ME McCain Bush-Brain [McCain was a totally different person in 2000...so perhaps the covert cloning projects have gone better than expected in humans in recent years as well!]....I STILL THINK HE'LL IMPLODE AND ROMNEY WILL MAYBE STEP IN TO BE A BIG HERO ----so we will have exactly what we have paid for then!.... REGARDLESS - THE FIX IS IN AND WILL STAY IN UNTIL WE CAN ENSURE A SAFE AND UNCOMPROMISED VOTING SYSTEM - AND GET RID OF ELECTORAL COLLEGE - AND BY ALL MEANS - ELECT A PRESIDENT BY THE POPULAR VOTE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
WELL - I AM TIRED OF THIS FAMILIAR RANT RIGHT NOW AND I GUESS I WILL GO SIGN THE NEW DEM PETITIONS
study my propagation bible ....
and continue to mix my war paints and pray for peace ....and continue to dream that America still has a chance ....silly i know.... but the hard headed - Aries Asshole in me ...is starting to look past all of this ----and for once in over 6 years ....I HAVE FOUND SOME PEACE WITH MY OWN SOUL.... the next life ----I can only hope that the human race gets it all allot more 'RIGHT'
honestly ----THE EVIL THAT PREVAILS ---and even the people who do not want to GET IT & face facts - truths - or want to grow enough spine to walk their talk ...they must not have a soul ....so they are a pretty much a total waste of my time
goodnight and big hug to
all from Planetpam
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Re: The Bush Administration
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wow ...it has been a busy day I see in here...and THANKS RAINEY FOR THE GREAT INFORMATIVE POSTS! I only watch Democracy Now...for news these days ... I have been sick and tired of the strange mainstream 'news' that is apparently only confusing more and more Americans [which is also no accident ]- divide and seperate & keep everyone confused and fighting amoungst themselves- is only part of the art of war...but is non-the-less = quite effective isn't it? ...all the blogs are clear demonstrations of this - in my opinion anyway....although entertaining to read - this is getting me personally ---quite nowhere!--no offense ----I am tired of arguing to ignorance ....I PUT IN MY TIME - I INVESTIGATED - AND I DO NOT BELIEVE ANYONE OR THING THAT IS NOT BACKED UP WITH FACTS.... of course I DON'T KNOW IT ALL ----but I am almost always right these days & I am trying to spend more time EDUCATING as many people as I can ...writing articles that are nothing like these speed dial blogs - has taken some time ---but I have gotten through to a few people ---so it has been worth it ----THE TRUTH REALLY DOES SET YOU FREE ----as corny as that sounds!
Meanwhile - CONgress is meeting about steroids in horse racing now......more positive proof - our government part of our world has gone nuts[er] and our gov is = in all honesty - broken beyond repair...
If our Congress was a reasonable percentage of what we have been paying them to do ---then they would be walking our talk for us - and instead be taking the will of the American people & our constitution & integrity seriously.
...INSTEAD =THEY KEEP FUNDING THE WAR AND PASSING ILLEGAL FISA BULLSHIT BECAUSE WHY?
... THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ENOUGH OF THEM TO EVER GET UP ONE DAY AND DECIDE TO BECOME REAL AMERICANS AGAIN AND TAKE THESE CRIMINAL SOCIOPATHS DOWN!
....OR TO DO THEIR DAMN JOB FOR A CHANGE and hold the regime and themselves accountable for THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTIONS AND ACTS -like the Patriot Act from hell for example
...and the murder of milliions of innocent people .
...and trillions of embezzled dollars [just to name a few - but an illegal occupation - funded by public funds - is fraud and illegal within itself- nevermind the INSANITY of it all!]
....or to even just stand up one day and say "THE OCCUPATION OF IRAQ IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL" .
....the only ones doing so are KUCINACH AND A HANDFUL OF OTHERS LIKE WEXLER .. THAT ARE STANDING BY THE NEWEST 35 ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT ....but they are standing alone ....and that is also a glaring neon sign that should be showing us all that is will NOT MATTER ONE FUCKING BIT - WHO WINS - OR DOESN'T BECAUSE OUR CORRUPT CONGRESSS AND CONTROLLED MEDIA ARE BEING RUN BY ----THE BILDERBERG GROUP [no I am not going to shut up about them - as they are at the root of all of what is wrong with our country- AND IGNORE THEM - AND YOU HAVE TOTALLY MISSED THE absolute REALITY OF OUR SITUATION COMPLETELY!
-------us registered DEMS = GOT THE BELOW democrat.com EMAIL TODAY---------
No More Betrayals: Let's Replace the Bush Democrats
On Thursday and Friday, the American people were betrayed twice by House "Democratic" Leader Steny Hoyer (right) and his Bush Democrats.
On Thursday, 80 Bush Democrats voted to give George Bush another $163 billion to occupy Iraq and plunder its oil for another year, even though 68% of Americans want to bring our troops safely home this year.
And on Friday, 105 Bush Democrats voted to give immunity to George Bush and the telecoms for illegally wiretapping American citizens even before 9/11, and to allow Bush and the telecoms to keep doing it - thereby shredding the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution.
We're mad as hell, and we're not gonna take it any more. So let's take the Democratic Party back from Steny Hoyer and the Bush Democrats.
With your support, we will replace each one with an "Aggressive Progressive" Democrat who will bring our troops home from Iraq and fulfill their solemn oaths to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."
And we're starting today with John Barrow (GA12), who betrayed us on both votes. Watch Barrow pledge his complete devotion to George Bush during Friday's warrantless wiretapping debate.
Georgia's primaries are on July 15 - just 3 weeks away. And Barrow is facing a dramatic primary challenge from State Senator Regina Thomas.
Thomas doesn't just look different, she thinks different. She wants to bring our troops safely home from Iraq immediately. And here's what she told me on Friday:
"I was really appalled at the actions of Congress and especially my Congressman from the 12th District in Georgia, John Barrow, for voting in favor of the Bush-Republican surveillance bill that would make it very easy, without a warrant, to wiretap any American citizen."
On Friday, Regina Thomas became our first endorsed candidate of 2008. And that was not just because she's an "Aggressive Progressive," but also because she can win.
In Georgia's Democratic Presidential primary on February 5, 70% of the voters in GA12 were African-American. Thomas isn't running on her race, though, but rather her record of accomplishment over 12 years in the state legislature. This has Barrow running for his political life by avoiding every chance to debate Thomas because he simply cannot compete with a real Democrat.
In a few hours, our endorsement raised over $1,176 from 31 donors. Today we'd like to raise $10,000 by encouraging 1,000 of our 500,000 subscribers to contribute $10 each directly to Regina Thomas's campaign.
Can you help?
http://www.actblue.com/page/bushdemocrats
In 2005-6, we raised nearly $80,000 for pro-impeachment House candidates through ImpeachPAC (and helped elect Keith Ellison in MN05), so I know what we're capable of.
Let's send a message to Steny Hoyer and his Bush Democrats: that the Democratic Party belongs to us, not to George Bush. And starting today we're taking it back.
Thanks for all you do!
Bob Fertik
Last year, Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL) launched WexlerWantsHearings.com to persuade Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Judiciary Chairman John Conyers to hold hearings on Rep. Dennis Kucinich's 3 Articles of Impeachment against Dick Cheney.
Last week, Rep. Wexler was the first Democrat to co-sponsor Dennis Kucinich's 35 Articles of Impeachment against George Bush (see below).
Now it's our turn to support a Democratic hero by pre-ordering Congressman Robert's Wexler's new book Fire-Breathing Liberal. Last week, Democrats.com members pushed Fire-Breathing Liberal right to the top of Amazon best-seller list. Let's do it again and show Washington that Robert Wexler speaks for us!
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Kucinich's 35 Articles of Impeachment - 5 Co-Sponsors and Growing...
On June 9, Rep. Dennis Kucinich made history on the floor of the House by reading 35 Articles of Impeachment against President George W. Bush, now H.Res. 1258.
In just six days, over 25,000 of you emailed your Representatives to co-sponsor the 35 Articles:
http://www.democrats.com/35-articles-of-impeachment
The first three co-sponsors were Robert Wexler (FL19), Lynn Woolsey (CA06), and Barbara Lee (CA09). On Thursday, they were joined by Tammy Baldwin (WI02) and Maurice Hinchey (NY22).
The charges presented by Rep. Kucinich are so serious that every Member of Congress should demand Judiciary Committee hearings by becoming a co-sponsor.
Here's what you can do to persuade your Representative:
http://www.democrats.com/impeachment-cosponsors-wanted
========I WILL GIVE NONE OF THEM A THIN DIME UNTIL THEY FIX THE VOTING FRAUD ====PERIOD====but if there is NO IMPEACHMENT EVEN STARTED - WHEN BUSH GIVES THE ATTACK IRAN COMMAND - THE MILITARY WILL HAVE TO COME TO CONGRESS BEFORE THEY DO SO ---IT IS THE ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT TO AT ALL STOP THE IRAN ATTACK =in my opinion anyway==
==time for CUERVO here!=YOOHOOO!==well if the above pep and prod =talk didn't work ===I guess I can just keep going on with speed typing a little more rant = as this is about the only time I will probably make for awhile in this blog - KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK THOUGH ---rainey - jet and all of you I admire ....AND THE REST OF YOU NUTCASES -----grow up---give yourself the gift of honesty ----and quit being part of the problem - instead of the solution!!..........[shot of cuervo anyone?].....
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ok= lets call it what it really is ---and start walking our talk with total honesty!
----"WHAT A FUCKING MESS!!!"
.... THE DISCONNECT IS NOT JUST IN THESE CANDIDATES - THE BULLSHIT AND AVOIDANCE OF ANY REAL GOVERNMENT FOR AMERICANS - THE BLOGS - OR OUR MEDIA ... OR WHATEVER WE MAY BE CHOOSING TO BLAME - THE BLAME STARTS RIGHT HERE WITH EACH ONE OF US ---->> YOUR CHOICE NOW IS ---TO BE = OR NOT TO BE ----A SHEEP!
...the Disconnect of reality in this entire political race for white house is that the fraudulent voting machines are still in place and the 'FIX' IS IN - AGAIN [as usual & we are sitting sheep AGAIN ----anyway!]
....the biggest ELECTION disconnect is the horrific reality that surrounds us currently = and TIME TO be TOTALLY honest - and admit that BUSH hAS BEEN VOTED IN TWICE IN A ROW WITH THESE MACHINES IN PLACE IN SEVERAL STATES [the American people are not to blame here clearly - until we have let it happen - twice ---and soon to be 3 times in a row!]
...and BILDERBERG GOT CLINTON IN THERE TWICE TOO ---believe it - he is ONE OF THEM - ALL THE WAY ---AND HILIARY TOTALLY IS TOO --->>>and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if he was also NOT actually voted in by the American people [BECAUSE LOTS OF US KNEW WHAT HE AND HIS REGIME WERE REALLY UP TO BACK THEN - just like we did w/bush sr and reagan and the rest of the crooks in high places---in spite of the media twists and spins because back then we still had a fairly credible BBC and our entire major media venues were not controlled until about the end of the Clinton Era [we can thank McCain for some of that too- the Jerk!]...BUT - we still had some 5 stars in there that would take the American people & our constitution seriously...[EVEN THOUGH CLINTON DISMANTLED YUGOSLAVIA AND also DU BOMBED THE HELL OUT THAT ENTIRE AREA -to name just a few of the other dirty little wars going on under his regime too = he betrayed our Soldiers with his HR-1959 AND HE BETRAYED OUR COUNTRY COMPLETELY WITH BILDERBERG'S NAFTA]
MY ONLY REAL POINT I GUESS IS THAT - WHAT EVER WE DO - SHOULD BE BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE OF MATTER AT HAND...AND EVEN THOUGH WE ARE SURROUNDED BY RAMPANT CORRUPTION [and the FIX is in as usual---if we do nothing about it ---then ARE WE NOT JUST AS MUCH TO BLAME? WE SHOULD LOOK AT TRUTH AND JUSTICE AND NEVER SURRENDER OUR OWN INTEGRITY [and NEVER GIVE UP!] ....or = we are no better than all of those thieveing bastards....and we would also be as they are= lowest life forms - of a murderer-liar-thief
I will only add that someone who is going to vote for McCain - because he is pissed off at how the dem candidate was chosen...[and at the same time admits he won't win anyway]...is seriously NOT THINKING OUT OF THE PROPAGANDIZED MEDIA BLACK BOX! ....clearly RON PAUL WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE OR EVEN NADER FOR THAT MATTER THAN MINI-ME McCain Bush-Brain [McCain was a totally different person in 2000...so perhaps the covert cloning projects have gone better than expected in humans in recent years as well!]....I STILL THINK HE'LL IMPLODE AND ROMNEY WILL MAYBE STEP IN TO BE A BIG HERO ----so we will have exactly what we have paid for then!.... REGARDLESS - THE FIX IS IN AND WILL STAY IN UNTIL WE CAN ENSURE A SAFE AND UNCOMPROMISED VOTING SYSTEM - AND GET RID OF ELECTORAL COLLEGE - AND BY ALL MEANS - ELECT A PRESIDENT BY THE POPULAR VOTE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
WELL - I AM TIRED OF THIS FAMILIAR RANT RIGHT NOW AND I GUESS I WILL GO SIGN THE NEW DEM PETITIONS
study my propagation bible ....
and continue to mix my war paints and pray for peace ....and continue to dream that America still has a chance ....silly i know.... but the hard headed - Aries Asshole in me ...is starting to look past all of this ----and for once in over 6 years ....I HAVE FOUND SOME PEACE WITH MY OWN SOUL.... the next life ----I can only hope that the human race gets it all allot more 'RIGHT'
honestly ----THE EVIL THAT PREVAILS ---and even the people who do not want to GET IT & face facts - truths - or want to walk their talk ...they must not have a soul ....so they are a total waste of time
goodnight and big hug to
all from Planetpam
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