HBO. Its not TV... its HBO.
SERIES | MOVIES | SPORTS | DOCUMENTARIES | HBO FILMS | SCHEDULE | ON DEMAND | SHOP HBO | GET HBO
REAL TIME WITH BILL MAHER
Home

Episode Guide

New Rules

Bios

Community

Video

News

Downloads

Shop Bill Maher

Sign up for the official Real Time with Bill Maher newsletter!
Welcome Guest
Begin the Debate!
As America hurtles toward the next presidential race, the HBO film 'Recount' will relive the fervor of 2000's messy election.

Kevin Spacey and Denis Leary take Al Gore's fight to the courts on May 25 - make your own case on the boards, where the most cogent arguments will be featured in a special poll on HBO.com. And don't worry - this time all the votes will be counted.

The question: Do you believe the Supreme Court's handling of Gore v. Bush was partisan?

http://boards.hbo.com/topic/Hbo-Official-Threads/Believe-Supreme-Courts/1900006032

The Democratic Presidential Primaries

[Replies: 5,883]
The Democratic Candidates:

Hillary Clinton
Barack Obama

--
Edited by HBOAdmin17 at 03/06/2008 9:43 AM
Last Post May 13, 2008 5:20 PM by: longball38884
longball38884
Posts: 838
Registered: 5/8/06
(5884 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 5:20 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> > Fair is fair Freebaser. Hillary keeps
> bragging
> > about her "experience". She HAS no experience
> > except what she stole from Bill, and even if

> you're
> > going to overlook that, how in the hell can you
> > insinuate crap about who Obama is "associating"

> with
> > while Hillary is fucking MARRIED to the
> disbarred
> > pardon selling criminal? You really think you
> can
> > make an issue out of "associations" and leave
> Hillary
> > out of it?
>
> Once again your full of shit. I have answered over
> and over about the crap you put up here about
> Hillary. From as far back as her cattle trades all
> the way up to her record as a US Senator. I HAVE
> talked about it...I HAVE responded to your bullshit
> excuses for your Hillary hate. What YOU have failed
> to do is answer anything about OBAMA.



Oh yeah...you answered them alright...and your answers are just as lame as Hillary's. Let's see.....your answers were what? That she wasn't convicted?

You see, you could never say that she didn't do anything wrong...nor that she didn't lie, nor that what the suspicions about her aren't even about something that's wrong or unethical.



>
> You refuse to except anything about Obama that doesnt
> paint him as the perfect man YOU want him to be. I
> HAVE talked, accepted and answered your failed
> attempts of Hillary hate...and you have come up short
> everytime because you cant defend OBAMA on anything.
> You want to keep repeating the same old crap but you
> dont want to talk about any of the good things
> Hillary has done which I have posted on here ALSO.
>
> Hillary's record is far better than Obama's. And if
> you just want to make that an issue than Hillary wins
> the election. If you want to talk about what HILLARY
> has done wrong then you have to talk about the things
> OBAMA does wrong...which is something YOU REFUSE to
> even accept or even attempt to defend. Your a joke
> and your words have no foundation in reality.


Hillary doesn't HAVE a record. She has no experience other than being married to Bill, and when you look at that, it's a disaster waiting to happen.

> I have put up here the good and the bad about
> Hillary. YOU...cant even put up the good that Obama
> has done. Let alone the fact of your complete denial
> of anything wrong in Obamas life what so ever. Your a
> joke...at best...and not even a good joke at that.


Okay.....the good about Obama?
1) He's eloquent and inspiring
2) He's not Hillary
3) HE'S NOT HILLARY

--
It ain't what you don't know that's the trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so...............Mark Twain
freethinker08
Posts: 1,509
Registered: 3/8/08
(5883 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 3:55 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> Fair is fair Freebaser. Hillary keeps bragging
> about her "experience". She HAS no experience
> except what she stole from Bill, and even if you're
> going to overlook that, how in the hell can you
> insinuate crap about who Obama is "associating" with
> while Hillary is fucking MARRIED to the disbarred
> pardon selling criminal? You really think you can
> make an issue out of "associations" and leave Hillary
> out of it?


Once again your full of shit. I have answered over and over about the crap you put up here about Hillary. From as far back as her cattle trades all the way up to her record as a US Senator. I HAVE talked about it...I HAVE responded to your bullshit excuses for your Hillary hate. What YOU have failed to do is answer anything about OBAMA.

You refuse to except anything about Obama that doesnt paint him as the perfect man YOU want him to be. I HAVE talked, accepted and answered your failed attempts of Hillary hate...and you have come up short everytime because you cant defend OBAMA on anything. You want to keep repeating the same old crap but you dont want to talk about any of the good things Hillary has done which I have posted on here ALSO.

Hillary's record is far better than Obama's. And if you just want to make that an issue than Hillary wins the election. If you want to talk about what HILLARY has done wrong then you have to talk about the things OBAMA does wrong...which is something YOU REFUSE to even accept or even attempt to defend. Your a joke and your words have no foundation in reality.

I have put up here the good and the bad about Hillary. YOU...cant even put up the good that Obama has done. Let alone the fact of your complete denial of anything wrong in Obamas life what so ever. Your a joke...at best...and not even a good joke at that.

--
What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or an embarrassment? And Man shall be just that for the Over-Man: A laughingstock or an embarrassment. Nietzsche

--
Edited by freethinker08 at 05/13/2008 1:00 PM PDT
longball38884
Posts: 838
Registered: 5/8/06
(5882 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 3:33 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> > Bullshit. I was talking about the FILN members
> who
> > were pardoned shortly after Hillary's Senate
> campaign
> > received the MONEY in 2000. But even
> > still......under YOUR criteria....the biggest
> > difference is Slick Willie took their MONEY, and

> now
> > you want to point fingers and call someone else
> > corrupt.

>
> You just cant stop clumping all of Bills past on
> Hillary and at the same time want to try and say that
> nobody is allowed to clump people onto Obama. You
> want to talk about all of these people that Hillary
> can be blamed for and not let anyone discuss anything
> about anyone in Obamas life...past or present. Your a
> joke at best. I really have a hard time believing
> your 45 when you act like your as close minded as a
> teenager. Playing the dozens and trying to make
> everyone think you know what your talking about when
> it is clear that you dont have a clue.


Fair is fair Freebaser. Hillary keeps bragging about her "experience". She HAS no experience except what she stole from Bill, and even if you're going to overlook that, how in the hell can you insinuate crap about who Obama is "associating" with while Hillary is fucking MARRIED to the disbarred pardon selling criminal? You really think you can make an issue out of "associations" and leave Hillary out of it?

> > Bullshit bullshit bullshit......the worst you
> can
> > legitimately say is Obama wasn't nasty to the
> man.
>
> Oh there is more than that...YOUR just blind because
> you think this is a popularity contest and not an
> actual Presidential election.
>

> > Picking presidential winners is easy. It's YOU
> that
> > wants to make it complicated. It's VERY
> simple.
> > All your issues are meaningless. They mean
> > an NOTHING. They never have before, what on

> earth
> > makes you think this year is going to be any
> > different?

>
> The economy, the war, national security...all of that
> means nothing because Longball says we only vote for
> the popular guy. Fuck the country...IT AMERICAN IDOL
> PRESIDENTIAL STYLE. Lets not vote the same way we
> have been and screw up this country any longer and
> start voting for who will be the better
> President...HILLARY CLINTON. If you think that the
> popular guy always wins...then it is your ignorant
> voting ways that have screwed this country up while
> leaving the issues of the country at the way side to
> just vote for the popular guy. Fuck it if he doesnt
> have a clue...like BUSH and LONGBALL...its a
> popularity contest and not an actuall election trying
> to find the best person to fix our country.
>
> Good call.
>
> Bone head.
>
> --
> What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or an
> embarrassment? And Man shall be just that for the
> Over-Man: A laughingstock or an embarrassment.
> Nietzsche


--
It ain't what you don't know that's the trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so...............Mark Twain
freethinker08
Posts: 1,509
Registered: 3/8/08
(5881 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 3:12 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> Bullshit. I was talking about the FILN members who
> were pardoned shortly after Hillary's Senate campaign
> received the MONEY in 2000. But even
> still......under YOUR criteria....the biggest
> difference is Slick Willie took their MONEY, and now
> you want to point fingers and call someone else
> corrupt.


You just cant stop clumping all of Bills past on Hillary and at the same time want to try and say that nobody is allowed to clump people onto Obama. You want to talk about all of these people that Hillary can be blamed for and not let anyone discuss anything about anyone in Obamas life...past or present. Your a joke at best. I really have a hard time believing your 45 when you act like your as close minded as a teenager. Playing the dozens and trying to make everyone think you know what your talking about when it is clear that you dont have a clue.

> Bullshit bullshit bullshit......the worst you can
> legitimately say is Obama wasn't nasty to the man.


Oh there is more than that...YOUR just blind because you think this is a popularity contest and not an actual Presidential election.

> Picking presidential winners is easy. It's YOU that
> wants to make it complicated. It's VERY simple.
> All your issues are meaningless. They mean
> an NOTHING. They never have before, what on earth
> makes you think this year is going to be any
> different?


The economy, the war, national security...all of that means nothing because Longball says we only vote for the popular guy. Fuck the country...IT AMERICAN IDOL PRESIDENTIAL STYLE. Lets not vote the same way we have been and screw up this country any longer and start voting for who will be the better President...HILLARY CLINTON. If you think that the popular guy always wins...then it is your ignorant voting ways that have screwed this country up while leaving the issues of the country at the way side to just vote for the popular guy. Fuck it if he doesnt have a clue...like BUSH and LONGBALL...its a popularity contest and not an actuall election trying to find the best person to fix our country.

Good call.

Bone head.

--
What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or an embarrassment? And Man shall be just that for the Over-Man: A laughingstock or an embarrassment. Nietzsche
freethinker08
Posts: 1,509
Registered: 3/8/08
(5880 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 2:56 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> > > Hey freethinker08
> > >
> > > You know why I don't debate you, because

> you do
> > my
> > > job so well!
> >
> > NOOOO....you dont debate me because you lost

> your
> > Obamanite handbook and have no clue as how to
> > respond. Dont worry...someday youll have an

> opinion
> > of your own.
> >

>
> Freethinker08, coming from you that is truly funny,
> , and I must say that you are good for a laugh. As a
> matter of fact, I have post things that someone would
> say soon afterwards. That's how I know I am on
> track, which happens often, and I don’t have any
> inside information from the Barack Obama camp.
> However, if one speaks truth then what one says will
> l be true.


Well you and longball should be on the tv telling everyone else how to think if you two are always right...which your not...but since you think you are why is it that there is only 1% difference in votes? If Obama and you, and Longball are so great...then why is it that half of the Democratic party does NOT agree with you.

You have people on HERE agree with you and only a small amount of people on here can handle all of the Hillary hate and bullshit that goes with supporting her and not the precious OBAMA.

So having your friends agree with you...does NOT make you right.

Seems like your biggest claim to fame is that y0ou feel like your right all the time on HERE...because people agree with you...but it has alot more to do with the fact of all of the insults and degrading remarks and hatred that comes from YOU Obama supporters that bash Hillary supporters so viciously that they dont come on here to defend her or their vote any longer. And your just trying to run me off like the rest of the ones who couldnt handle all the bullshit of supporting Hillary because of all the vile things being said. Your right on HERE...because youve run off almost everyone of Hillary's supporters from the sick and vile way most Obama supporters treat them...and me.

But I could care less about how you think of me...because until you start paying my bills and taking care of my family...your opinions mean very little. And you cant make me hide in fear for supporting Hillary, because as much as you want this to just be an Obamanite meeting place to praise your almighty leader...I have more fun busting that up than anything else. So give it your best shot. Im not going anywhere...and sooner or later youll have to face the fact that OBAMA CAN NOT WIN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION FOR THE VERY REASONS I HAVE ARGUED ABOUT ON HERE.

Wake up!!!


--
What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or an embarrassment? And Man shall be just that for the Over-Man: A laughingstock or an embarrassment. Nietzsche

--
Edited by freethinker08 at 05/13/2008 12:29 PM PDT
longball38884
Posts: 838
Registered: 5/8/06
(5879 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 2:36 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> > Well you're full of shit about the racists
> radicals,
> > but the terrorists? This is really what
> bothers
> > you? You mean you think Obama having tea with
> a
> > college professor is somehow worse than the
> Clintons
> > selling presidential pardons to convicted
> terrorists?
> > You're actually going to try to make that
> argument?
> > t? Oh no that's right.......you want to leave
> the
> > Clintons out of this whole thing and just
> magically
> > conclude Hillary is the better candidate
> without
> > comparing the two.
>
> Ignore...ignore...ignore...BLAME HILLARY. I have
> responded to your so called Clinton
> controversies...you cant talk about ONE of Obamas.
> And get it right...BILL Clinton passed those pardons
> out with help from others who supported him. NOT
> HILLARY IN ANY WAY...and HILLARY is running for
> President now...NOT BILL. But he pardoned some of the
> very men the Ayers led...Bill didnt support what he
> did or become friends with them. He pardoned them
> because he and others thought it was the right thing
> to do.


Bullshit. I was talking about the FILN members who were pardoned shortly after Hillary's Senate campaign received the MONEY in 2000. But even still......under YOUR criteria....the biggest difference is Slick Willie took their MONEY, and now you want to point fingers and call someone else corrupt.

> Obama became friends with the man. Went to his
> house...worked with him...worked with Ayers father
> and brother...Michelle worked with Ayers wife who
> also blew up buildings and private homes. There is a
> big difference between pardoning a man for his crimes
> when your not connected to that man...and actually
> befriending the man himself.


Bullshit bullshit bullshit......the worst you can legitimately say is Obama wasn't nasty to the man.

> > Hard to tell there Freethinker, I've never had
> a
> > candidate I've supported lose in the general. I
> just
> > am somehow able to look at the evidence and know
> who
> > is going to win.....I'm 45 years old, and I
> haven't
> > been wrong yet, going back to Nixon....(but I
> was
> > only 10 in 1972, so that was just a lucky
> guess).
>
> As much as you want people to believe your right all
> the time....(cough...cough...bullshit...cough), youve
> proven you dont have a clue as to anything that has
> to do with the elections...just that you say you can
> pick all the winners. You know better than all the
> experts...but you dont have a clue as to why you
> support them or why you "say" you pick ALL the
> winners. Give me a break. You cant pick your nose
> wright...and you want us to believe you know all the
> answers ahead of everyone else. Okay
> Nostradomus...who will win tonight and by how much?


Picking presidential winners is easy. It's YOU that wants to make it complicated. It's VERY simple. All your issues are meaningless. They mean NOTHING. They never have before, what on earth makes you think this year is going to be any different?

--
It ain't what you don't know that's the trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so...............Mark Twain
Posts: 203
Registered: 7/24/05
(5878 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 2:06 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> > Hey freethinker08
> >
> > You know why I don't debate you, because you do

> my
> > job so well!
>
> NOOOO....you dont debate me because you lost your
> Obamanite handbook and have no clue as how to
> respond. Dont worry...someday youll have an opinion
> of your own.
>


Freethinker08, coming from you that is truly funny, and I must say that you are good for a laugh. As a matter of fact, I have post things that someone would say soon afterwards. That's how I know I am on track, which happens often, and I don’t have any inside information from the Barack Obama camp. However, if one speaks truth then what one says will be true.

PEACE & LOVE

YANCEY
freethinker08
Posts: 1,509
Registered: 3/8/08
(5877 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 1:09 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
.....I'm 45 years old,

Going on 12.

and I haven't
> been

Wright...sorry...right

yet, going back to Nixon

And we see how he worked out. Seems you started off supporting a crook and have ended up supporting another. Full circle huh? Good for you!

....(but I was
> only 10 in 1972, so that was just a lucky guess).

So is the rest of your logic. Just a lucky guess.

--
What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or an embarrassment? And Man shall be just that for the Over-Man: A laughingstock or an embarrassment. Nietzsche
freethinker08
Posts: 1,509
Registered: 3/8/08
(5876 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 12:59 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> Well you're full of shit about the racists radicals,
> but the terrorists? This is really what bothers
> you? You mean you think Obama having tea with a
> college professor is somehow worse than the Clintons
> selling presidential pardons to convicted terrorists?
> You're actually going to try to make that argument?
> t? Oh no that's right.......you want to leave the
> Clintons out of this whole thing and just magically
> conclude Hillary is the better candidate without
> comparing the two.


Ignore...ignore...ignore...BLAME HILLARY. I have responded to your so called Clinton controversies...you cant talk about ONE of Obamas. And get it right...BILL Clinton passed those pardons out with help from others who supported him. NOT HILLARY IN ANY WAY...and HILLARY is running for President now...NOT BILL. But he pardoned some of the very men the Ayers led...Bill didnt support what he did or become friends with them. He pardoned them because he and others thought it was the right thing to do.

Obama became friends with the man. Went to his house...worked with him...worked with Ayers father and brother...Michelle worked with Ayers wife who also blew up buildings and private homes. There is a big difference between pardoning a man for his crimes when your not connected to that man...and actually befriending the man himself.

> Hard to tell there Freethinker, I've never had a
> candidate I've supported lose in the general. I just
> am somehow able to look at the evidence and know who
> is going to win.....I'm 45 years old, and I haven't
> been wrong yet, going back to Nixon....(but I was
> only 10 in 1972, so that was just a lucky guess).


As much as you want people to believe your right all the time....(cough...cough...bullshit...cough), youve proven you dont have a clue as to anything that has to do with the elections...just that you say you can pick all the winners. You know better than all the experts...but you dont have a clue as to why you support them or why you "say" you pick ALL the winners. Give me a break. You cant pick your nose wright...and you want us to believe you know all the answers ahead of everyone else. Okay Nostradomus...who will win tonight and by how much?

I bet you picked the Giants to win the Super Bowl too....in the last two minutes of the game Im sure.

--
What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or an embarrassment? And Man shall be just that for the Over-Man: A laughingstock or an embarrassment. Nietzsche
longball38884
Posts: 838
Registered: 5/8/06
(5875 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 12:47 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> You just cant admit it because then you would have to
> admit YOU are wrong. And we all see that would be an
> impossibility. Obama is not the shining Rock Star
> everyone wants to believe, he is covered in the filth
> left behind from his time in Chicago, ties to
> terrorist and racist radicals...the only people who
> cant even bare to look at it is people like you who
> cant defend him but follow in step and insult anyone
> smart enough to question Obama.


Well you're full of shit about the racists radicals, but the terrorists? This is really what bothers you? You mean you think Obama having tea with a college professor is somehow worse than the Clintons selling presidential pardons to convicted terrorists? You're actually going to try to make that argument? Oh no that's right.......you want to leave the Clintons out of this whole thing and just magically conclude Hillary is the better candidate without comparing the two.

> And your just pain and simple...not smart enough to
> defend Obama without pointing fingers at someone
> else. You havent up until now...and you wont until he
> loses the general election. Then youll blame everyone
> else wont you...not you who couldnt rise to the task
> of defending your candidate.


Hard to tell there Freethinker, I've never had a candidate I've supported lose in the general. I just am somehow able to look at the evidence and know who is going to win.....I'm 45 years old, and I haven't been wrong yet, going back to Nixon....(but I was only 10 in 1972, so that was just a lucky guess).

--
It ain't what you don't know that's the trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so...............Mark Twain
freethinker08
Posts: 1,509
Registered: 3/8/08
(5874 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 12:38 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
Okay LONGBALL...I will give you a break and let you talk about one of the few things you know plenty about.

Obama is losing support by white working class voters.

Now you can try and talk as much as you can about something you know plenty about...racist people. Maybe it has something to do with his insults toward the Christian Right and the problems he has with the Bible itself. Or maybe its just because hes black.

What do you think?

--
What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or an embarrassment? And Man shall be just that for the Over-Man: A laughingstock or an embarrassment. Nietzsche
freethinker08
Posts: 1,509
Registered: 3/8/08
(5873 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 12:34 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> > Those two were political partners in a corrupt
> > political system. Rezko recieved millions from

> Obama
> > to fix up the apartments Rezko owned and then
> Rezko
> > had the power shut off in the middle of winter
> so he
> > could funnel money back into Obamas campaign.
> Rezko
> > is a fixer and was Obamas biggest fund raiser?
> How
> > did Rezko bully people into supporting him?
> > Threatening to withdrawl government programs

> and
> > funding if they didnt support whoever Rezko
> choose.
> > INCLUDING OBAMA!
>
> Obama's total involvement was tenuous at best. He
> barely did anything as an associate of a Chicago law
> firm. But to characterize that as being "political
> partners" is just nonsense.


See how clear you are at NOT talking about what I say. Im talking clearly about Rezko being Obamas political fundraiser and about the issue YOU brought up and asking me to tell you something that Obama did for Rezko...I told you about the Rezko owned apartments and funneling money back to Obamas campaign...and you say......bullshit excuse of Obamas activities in a law firm? Are you just spinning that fast you just spew out the first lame excuse that comes to you lips or are you actually patheticaly trying to look like you know what your talking about?

> If there's so much evidence, why can't you come up
> with any?


I have...you just ignore it and try and make it into a non issue or try and argue the source, or some other pathetic attempt to deflect it in some way to make Hillary look bad. You just cant face the music...and WONT ACCEPT PROOF EVEN WHEN ITS RIGHT IN YOUR FACE.


LOOK AT
> > HILLARY...LOOK AT BILL...STOP LOOKING INTO
> OBAMAS
> > PAST...LOOK AT THE CLINTONS.

> So far you haven't mentioned anything he would need
> to be defended FROM.


Refer to last reply.


> HE'S NOT HILLARY.

As I thought...you cant defend Obama because you dont know shit about Obama...you just dont like Hillary. Is it that your tiny mind cant handle being told what to do by a woman? Or maybe its just the fact you jumped on the band wagon without having a clue even what wagon you were jumping on?

IF you could ever come up with
> ANYTHING to show he's even half as bad as Hillary, I
> would gladly thank you for bringing it to my
> attention and go support McCain.


Since your blind to the facts...youll vote for a losing Obama in the general...or voting for McSame in the fall. Either way...you wont have a clue as to why.

--
What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or an embarrassment? And Man shall be just that for the Over-Man: A laughingstock or an embarrassment. Nietzsche
longball38884
Posts: 838
Registered: 5/8/06
(5872 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 12:22 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> > It's called responsibility. Looks like the
> media
> > demands some sort of reasonable evidence before
> they
> > go smearing Obama. Mighty inconvenient for
> Hillary,
> > but I can see why it bothers you so much, when
> your
> > candidate hits this desperate stage.....it's the
> only
> > thing she has left.....try to smear the other
> guy.
>
> No...its called sucking up to the popular guy. The
> media said it for months into this primary election
> that they knew nothing about Obama. By the time all
> of these things became relevant it was AFTER he was
> already such a ROCK STAR. Now supporters feel
> concreted into the backing of Obama and turn a blind
> eye to everything to justify their support. Its not
> smearing someone if its the truth.
>

> > And Obama did WHAT for Rezko? Oh NOTHING!
> That's
> > right, NOTHING. Keep making a big deal out
> this
> > Freebaser, it just makes you look pathetic.
>
> Those two were political partners in a corrupt
> political system. Rezko recieved millions from Obama
> to fix up the apartments Rezko owned and then Rezko
> had the power shut off in the middle of winter so he
> could funnel money back into Obamas campaign. Rezko
> is a fixer and was Obamas biggest fund raiser? How
> did Rezko bully people into supporting him?
> Threatening to withdrawl government programs and
> funding if they didnt support whoever Rezko choose.
> INCLUDING OBAMA!


Obama's total involvement was tenuous at best. He barely did anything as an associate of a Chicago law firm. But to characterize that as being "political partners" is just nonsense.



> > Yeah, how inconvenient huh? The NERVE of that
> guy
> > to not get uptight just because you have no
> evidence.
> > The worst you can say about Obama is that he
> wasn't
> > 't nasty to people you hate.
>
> You just dont get it do you? he is a part of the
> political machine in Chicago...and your trying to say
> he was an elected official and not involved in the
> politics that has been going on there for over a
> hundred years. There is evidence...YOU are the only
> saying that there isnt. Since you dont have a clue
> about it...just deny it and it will all go away.


If there's so much evidence, why can't you come up with any?

> > IT's hard to believe ANYONE would believe such
> > nonsense. Not after we all saw Slick Willie

> get
> > elected twice in amongst scandals that make
> Obama
> > look like a puppy dog.
>
> Again your pathetic denial is the only thing coming
> out of your head clearly. Im talking about Obama and
> Chicago Machine politics and you somehow find a way
> to do the same thing over and over...LOOK AT
> HILLARY...LOOK AT BILL...STOP LOOKING INTO OBAMAS
> PAST...LOOK AT THE CLINTONS. You cant defend the man


So far you haven't mentioned anything he would need to be defended FROM.

> on any issue...so how can you say your an Obama
> supporter? And who the hell do you think you are for
> insulting someone who knows about BOTH
> candidates...not just that some popular guys running
> against a bitch like HILLARY CLINTON.
>
> You really dont have a clue why your voting for him
> do you?


HE'S NOT HILLARY. IF you could ever come up with ANYTHING to show he's even half as bad as Hillary, I would gladly thank you for bringing it to my attention and go support McCain.

--
It ain't what you don't know that's the trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so...............Mark Twain
freethinker08
Posts: 1,509
Registered: 3/8/08
(5871 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 12:18 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> > There is not one person on his team, super
> delegate,
> > or supporter in the political game that hasnt
> been
> > promised something in return.
> Blah..blah...blah...
>
>
>

> > I think Richardson was offered
> something..blah...blah...blah
>
>
>

> > Either he knew...or he blah...blah...blah
> >
> > I wonder who he owes blah..blah...blah
> >

>
> A very unambiguous statement followed up by multiple
> paragraphs of ambiguous bullshit. Freethinker, you
> managed outdo even yourself when it comes to
> worthless bullshit.


Worthless to the blind like you. You just dont want to have to face the man you support and answer for his actions. Obama is a man who has ridden the coat tails af a racist man for 20 years, he has worked his way deep inside the belly of the Political Chicago Machine that is ravaged with corruption, and from his wife working for Daley all the way to Obamas staff members that are allies of Daley's the corruption is right there in front of your face.

You just cant admit it because then you would have to admit YOU are wrong. And we all see that would be an impossibility. Obama is not the shining Rock Star everyone wants to believe, he is covered in the filth left behind from his time in Chicago, ties to terrorist and racist radicals...the only people who cant even bare to look at it is people like you who cant defend him but follow in step and insult anyone smart enough to question Obama.

And your just pain and simple...not smart enough to defend Obama without pointing fingers at someone else. You havent up until now...and you wont until he loses the general election. Then youll blame everyone else wont you...not you who couldnt rise to the task of defending your candidate.

--
What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or an embarrassment? And Man shall be just that for the Over-Man: A laughingstock or an embarrassment. Nietzsche

--
Edited by freethinker08 at 05/13/2008 9:19 AM PDT
longball38884
Posts: 838
Registered: 5/8/06
(5870 of 5884)

Re: The Democratic Presidential Primaries

May 13, 2008 12:10 PM
Rate this post:
1 star
2 stars
3 stars
4 stars
5 stars
> There is not one person on his team, super delegate,
> or supporter in the political game that hasnt been
> promised something in return. Blah..blah...blah...




> I think Richardson was offered something..blah...blah...blah



> Either he knew...or he blah...blah...blah
>
> I wonder who he owes blah..blah...blah
>


A very unambiguous statement followed up by multiple paragraphs of ambiguous bullshit. Freethinker, you managed outdo even yourself when it comes to worthless bullshit.

--
It ain't what you don't know that's the trouble, it's what you know that just ain't so...............Mark Twain
Page: of 393