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Discuss President-elect Obama's transition to the White House. Will it be a smooth process? Should he reach out to his former rivals to fill his Cabinet?
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(46 of 91)
Jan 15, 2009 6:36 PM
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> Dubya has solved the immigration problem. I should
> say the problem of people coming to America for
> economic opportunity.
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> Dubya's destruction of our economy will soon send
> Americans sneaking into other countries begging for a
> hand-out.
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> "I suggest putting Dr. Kevorkian as the head of the
> RNC, because it's a suicide mission."
Agreed, Rainy. Well put, Dave, terse, and funny.
I don't know where to start cutting through thickets of denial with people who have no empathy and don't read.
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79% of Americans say they support "providing health care coverage for all Americans, even if it means raising taxes"
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(45 of 91)
Jan 15, 2009 3:52 PM
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> Who will be paying for Barack's grandmother to come
> from Kenya?
> Will she come clean as to where Barack really was
> born?
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Actually, the lady who is coming to the inauguration is his step-mother, not his grandmother.
And, what would she know about it?
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"I suggest putting Dr. Kevorkian as the head of the RNC, because it's a suicide mission."
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Edited by mechadave at 01/15/2009 2:18 PM PST
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(44 of 91)
Jan 15, 2009 3:43 PM
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> Dubya has solved the immigration problem. I should
> say the problem of people coming to America for
> economic opportunity.
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> Dubya's destruction of our economy will soon send
> Americans sneaking into other countries begging for a
> hand-out.
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> --
> "I suggest putting Dr. Kevorkian as the head of the
> RNC, because it's a suicide mission."
Dave,
LOL ohh, the irony. Bush found the best solution to that problem!
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(43 of 91)
Jan 15, 2009 3:39 PM
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> > Rule of thumb,
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> > Those who pose as "experts" behind a smokescreen
> of
> > statistics almost ALWAYS are not.
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> > DaN
> > ---------------------------
> > Right. And they are ALWAYS liars.
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> > --
> > "I suggest putting Dr. Kevorkian as the head of
> the
> > RNC, because it's a suicide mission."
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> $50+ million is being spent on this inaugural. That's
> no lie.
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> Way to start if off, Obamas.
Certainly no economic downturn there. I guess he didn't hear the news that we are in the greatest of great depressions.
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(42 of 91)
Jan 15, 2009 3:22 PM
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Who will be paying for Barack's grandmother to come from Kenya?
Will she come clean as to where Barack really was born?
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(41 of 91)
Jan 15, 2009 3:18 PM
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> Rule of thumb,
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> Those who pose as "experts" behind a smokescreen of
> statistics almost ALWAYS are not.
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> DaN
> ---------------------------
> Right. And they are ALWAYS liars.
>
> --
> "I suggest putting Dr. Kevorkian as the head of the
> RNC, because it's a suicide mission."
$50+ million is being spent on this inaugural. That's no lie.
Way to start if off, Obamas.
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(40 of 91)
Jan 15, 2009 6:01 AM
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Dubya has solved the immigration problem. I should say the problem of people coming to America for economic opportunity.
Dubya's destruction of our economy will soon send Americans sneaking into other countries begging for a hand-out.
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"I suggest putting Dr. Kevorkian as the head of the RNC, because it's a suicide mission."
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(39 of 91)
Jan 14, 2009 11:36 PM
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> There's more than one way to commit genocide.
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> Bush may not have invaded Mexico and Canada
> militarily, he just helped eviscerate Mexico, and
> South and Central America, economically. That
> accounts for the influx in millions of starving
> refugees who've risked their lives crossing the
> border into the U.S.
>
> Have you read about the SPP/NACC U.S./Canada/Mexico
> 'under the radar' trade agreements exposed by
> Judicial Watch?
> http://www.judicialwatch.org/SPP.shtml
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> 79% of Americans say they support "providing health
> care coverage for all Americans, even if it means
> raising taxes"
> --Sirotablog
That's true. I don't believe there were any illegal aliens coming into the country prior to January 20, 2001. They were all pretty happy waiting their turn coming in through proper channels before Bush took over. You're right, Bush, not our lax immigration enforcement or easy-to-get public assistance, is responsible.
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"From each according to his ability, to each according to need"-Karl Marx 1848
"I think when you spread the wealth around it's good for everyone"-Barack Obama 2008
What's the difference?
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(38 of 91)
Jan 14, 2009 9:37 PM
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> > Plus, if change is what is needed, that comes
> from
> > leadership. Leadership tempered with experience
> is
> > the best of both worlds.
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> So what's the biggest difference between the approach
> to leadership by the Obama administration and the
> current Bush administration?
Jim
Knowledge and intention of abiding by the US Constitution, a commitment to transparency, candidate won by a fair election
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(37 of 91)
Jan 14, 2009 7:16 PM
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Good questions and points, Roland. The Dem veer to the right was startling and depressing under Clinton.
That Obama didn't take money from PACS or corporate lobbyists was a major step to extricate government from corporate ownership, more commonly known as fascism. I'm taking a wait and see attitude. The only truly progressive cabinet appt, Hilda Solis, in the Dept of Labor, is crucial. I hope she rises to the occasion.
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79% of Americans say they support "providing health care coverage for all Americans, even if it means raising taxes"
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(36 of 91)
Jan 14, 2009 5:38 PM
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For me it was the speech at the Democratic Convention in '04, I sat there thinking why don't we run this guy. He's not a stiff like fucking Kerry.
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(35 of 91)
Jan 2, 2009 8:44 PM
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I have supported Obama all the way from the very beginning when he first threw his hat into the ring. I just hope that he doesn't turn out to be ?the same old wine in a new bottle.? Unfortunately, it does appear from the selection of some of his appointees that he may be simply re-arranging the deck chairs on a sinking ship.
I have discussed with friends that what is happening with the bailout is the biggest transfer of wealth in history. The fact is the taxpayer is going to go deeper into debt paying off those who caused the problem in the first place. Can the Fed have the Bureau of Engraving & Printing print more money without causing the dollar to become worthless? For the government to act as a bank, and ?loan? money to the major auto makers doesn?t make any sense at all, even in good times. But these are not good times, and if anything, the money will never be paid back, certainly not in the foreseeable future. Under Lee Iacocca Chrysler did pay back its previous debt however, those were good times.
Let?s look at the present scenario for the ?Ship-Of-State:? We are constantly loosing jobs due to jobs being re-located overseas, lack of credit, and the decrease in consumption. Hence there is a decrease in demand and thereby a decrease in production. People are loosing their homes, and families are being put out on the street without medical care. Who exactly do they expect to buy these new cars that the automakers are supposed to produce? Who exactly do they expect to pay the taxes to cover this debt the government is now incurring? Will printing more money work without causing runaway inflation? Why are they throwing good money after bad? None of this makes any sense. We are bailing out investment houses, and bankers who are the cause of all this. These are overpaid CEO?s who have historically taken advantage of investors by recommending stocks they knew were worthless. Enron, WorldCom, and Tyco in the late 90?s, were all examples of what was to come. When farms were going under during the S&L scandal, the government didn?t help the farmers, but found money to help the likes of Keating.
Congress and the corporations they represent (the crew) is not listening to the people (the passengers) they are supposed to represent. The ship is sinking, and it appears the crew is more concerned with their own survival then that of the passengers. Perhaps we must abandon ship, but why is there only enough (?golden?) lifeboats for the rich (the upper 3% that make as much as 95% of the population)? The crew (those being bailed out) may survive, but the passengers will be forced to sink or swim on their own, with every man, woman, and child fending for themselves. The movie ?Wall Street,? staring Michael Douglas, showed the truth about absolute greed, and power, and how it corrupts absolutely. The recent pyramid (Ponzi) scheme set up and ran by Madoff, who ?made off? with billions of dollars, is just a tip of the iceberg that our Ship-Of-State has struck.
One just answer is to save as many passengers as possible, and let the crew go down with the ship. Of course this will never happen, and after the money is thrown into a deep dark hole, these corrupt bastards will come back with their hands out asking for more. But will this push Congress to enact new regulations to ensure this never happens again? NO, because the present regulations were never enforced to begin with! The ?Securities And Exchange Commission? (SEC) was in bed with these bastards, just as so many agencies (i.e. FDA, EPA etc.) designated as protectors of the public trust are in bed with the corporations they are supposed to regulate.
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Dec 18, 2008 10:06 PM
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There's more than one way to commit genocide.
Bush may not have invaded Mexico and Canada militarily, he just helped eviscerate Mexico, and South and Central America, economically. That accounts for the influx in millions of starving refugees who've risked their lives crossing the border into the U.S.
Have you read about the SPP/NACC U.S./Canada/Mexico 'under the radar' trade agreements exposed by Judicial Watch? http://www.judicialwatch.org/SPP.shtml
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79% of Americans say they support "providing health care coverage for all Americans, even if it means raising taxes"
--Sirotablog
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(33 of 91)
Dec 18, 2008 9:46 PM
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Joe,
A very hearty LOL! In that I'm guessing both Canada and Old Mexico are GREATLY appreciating we didn't export US style "Cowboy Capitalism" to any greater degree than we actually did. THANK GOODNESS(!) some of the countries we've infected with our insanity might in some small way be able to recover. Likewise, hopefully they won't breed TOO many of the next generation of America haters.
Oh Joe, forgot to add, of course the "hiding bodies comment" is well taken. As in, 'GWB the least' gets to bury his bodies (effectively, his shit) a continent away. How convenient?
Alas, so much invective, so little time!
DaN
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Edited by DaNihilist at 12/18/2008 6:55 PM PST
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(32 of 91)
Dec 12, 2008 9:11 AM
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"Speaking of Slobodan, what's the difference between him and Dubya?"
Dubya didn't invade Mexico or Canada. It's always tougher to hide bodies and deny refugees, when they're stacking-up just across the border.
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