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Barack Obama was elected the 44th president of the United States, as the country chose him as its first African American chief executive.
Share your thoughts on this historic election.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:41 PM
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> Also, from what I heard it was always about creating
> jobs for blacks, the inner cities. How about doing
> it for the entire country.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:40 PM
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longball38884,
> >
> > How can Van Jones be the green job czar, when he
> has
> > not ever created a job. While he wrote a book
> and
> > may have some knowledge, it hardly makes him
> > qualified on creating jobs, green jobs that is.
>
> How many heart surgeons have actually ever HAD heart
> surgery?
But, heart surgeons go to school to become doctors, have years of first hand knowledge, practice with other surgeons, and have learned how to preform heart surgery.
Van Jones is a Yale educated, with a law degree. While he may have research the green jobs information, he has actually never created green jobs, or be part of a green job creating company.
I suppose Peter King could coach in the NFL, he has written a couple of football books.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:40 PM
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> It is the NAACP, the National Association for the
> Advancement of Colored People. Latinos are colored
> right? White people are not.
So what are you saying? That the teabaggers are a white organization dedicated to fighting for the equal rights of the oppressed white people? WTF?
Organizations like Freedom Works that are behind this astroturf display claim these are Americans from all parties and all walks of life.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:36 PM
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> prettywitty,
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> > > Any doubt now that sunass is freestinker.
> Equal
> > > amounts of stupid.
> >
> > But not the same level of unhinged vitriol. If
> it
> > were really free, he would never be able to
> control
> > himself.
>
> Thank you.
You're welcome.
If you didn't espouse some of his more ridiculous views, however, no one would jump to that conclusion.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:35 PM
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>
> How can Van Jones be the green job czar, when he has
> not ever created a job. While he wrote a book and
> may have some knowledge, it hardly makes him
> qualified on creating jobs, green jobs that is.
How many heart surgeons have actually ever HAD heart surgery?
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:34 PM
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prettywitty,
> > Any doubt now that sunass is freestinker. Equal
> > amounts of stupid.
>
> But not the same level of unhinged vitriol. If it
> were really free, he would never be able to control
> himself.
Thank you.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:33 PM
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> So, you're admitting you're a teabagger. Glad to
> hear it.
>
> In what way did I say that or any way support their
> stupid ideas?
>
> This statement is a profound example of exactly how
> far from reality your arguments are.
>
> BTW, the founding membership of the NAACP was
> predominately white, and their current agenda
> considers Latino rights their big issue as they are
> currently under greater discrimination than Africans.
> Welcome to reality.
It is the NAACP, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Latinos are colored right? White people are not.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:31 PM
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> > > Sunaz,
> > >
> > > Democracy isn't something that can be
> forced on
> > a
> > > country at gunpoint, by attack, tanks,
> bombs,
> > and
> > > killing by an invading/occupying foreign
> enemy.
> > It's
> > > a political ideology that has to come from
> a
> > people
> > > themselves, something they own and work
> towards
> > of
> > > their own free will. Once achieved it has
> to be
> > > guarded and continuously improved upon.
> >
> > Then kindly explain Germany, Italy and Japan
> after
> > WWII.
> >
> > --
> > Edited by longball38884 at 09/12/2009 7:41 AM
> PDT
>
> longball,
>
> I believe the Germans had democracy after WWI for a
> few years. Don't know how much we had to do with that.
There is actually a long list of countries that have had democracy "imposed" upon them. Usually after lengthy brutal European colonial occupations.
Table 1: Imposed Democratic Regimes, 1800-1994.
State Start DEMAUT1 End DEMAUT2 Duration
Austria 1946 10 1994 10 49
Botswana 1966 10 1994 10 29
Jamaica 1959 10 1994 10 36
Japan 1952 10 1994 10 43
Malaysia 1957 10 1994 7 38
New Zealand 1857 10 1994 10 138
W. Germany/Germany 1949 10 1994 10 46
India 1950 9 1994 8 45
Lesotho 1966 9 1970 9 5
Mauritius 1968 9 1994 10 27
Namibia 1990 9 1994 9 5
Austria 1920 8 1934 -88 15
Cyprus 1960 8 1994 10 35
Gambia 1965 8 1994 10 30
Ireland 1922 8 1994 10 73
Nigeria 1960 8 1964 7 5
Panama 1989 8 1994 7 6
Sudan 1954 8 1958 8 5
Singapore 1957 7 1965 -66 9
Somalia 1960 7 1969 7 10
Sri Lanka 1948 7 1994 7 47
Uganda 1962 7 1966 -88 5
Sierra Leone 1961 6 1967 6 7
Comoros 1975 5 1976 5 2
Honduras 1908 5 1936 5 29
Philippines 1935 5 1972 2 38
Syria 1944 5 1950 5 7
Canada 1867 4 1994 10 128
Congo 1960 4 1963 4 4
South Africa 1920 4 1994 8 75
Zimbabwe 1964 4 1987 1 24
Cuba 1901 3 1959 -88 59
Benin/Dahomey 1960 2 1963 2 4
Guyana 1966 2 1980 0 15
Haiti 1918 2 1950 -88 33
Kenya 1962 2 1969 0 8
Lebanon 1941 2 1990 -77 50
Pakistan 1947 2 1958 8 12
Yugoslavia/Serbia 1838 2 1858 2 21
Zambia 1964 2 1972 0
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:30 PM
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Read Bill Maher's lastest column, it is amazing how clueless he is. Van Jones resigned, was not fired. Also, he was forced out of course, because of the 9/11 truther petition he signed.
Interesting though, Maher is no longer about having good people in gov't, but just fighting, to fight. With of course no purpose, as Van Jones should not have been there in the first place.
Let's not forget Robert Byrd was the first to cry foul about the czars.
How can Van Jones be the green job czar, when he has not ever created a job. While he wrote a book and may have some knowledge, it hardly makes him qualified on creating jobs, green jobs that is.
Also, from what I heard it was always about creating jobs for blacks, the inner cities. How about doing it for the entire country.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:26 PM
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So, you're admitting you're a teabagger. Glad to hear it.
In what way did I say that or any way support their stupid ideas?
This statement is a profound example of exactly how far from reality your arguments are.
BTW, the founding membership of the NAACP was predominately white, and their current agenda considers Latino rights their big issue as they are currently under greater discrimination than Africans. Welcome to reality.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:21 PM
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Interesting, MSNBC is going to show 90 minutes of astroturf healthcare rally. Yet, will give no airtime to the Tea party protests, and gov't spending protests. I guess now it is official, they're in the tank for O'bamanator.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:21 PM
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Any doubt now that sunass is freestinker. Equal amounts of stupid.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:18 PM
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> > Sunaz,
> >
> > Democracy isn't something that can be forced on
> a
> > country at gunpoint, by attack, tanks, bombs,
> and
> > killing by an invading/occupying foreign enemy.
> It's
> > a political ideology that has to come from a
> people
> > themselves, something they own and work towards
> of
> > their own free will. Once achieved it has to be
> > guarded and continuously improved upon.
>
> Then kindly explain Germany, Italy and Japan after
> WWII.
>
> --
> Edited by longball38884 at 09/12/2009 7:41 AM PDT
longball,
I believe the Germans had democracy after WWI for a few years. Don't know how much we had to do with that.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 12:14 PM
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> Sunaz,
>
> Democracy isn't something that can be forced on a
> country at gunpoint, by attack, tanks, bombs, and
> killing by an invading/occupying foreign enemy. It's
> a political ideology that has to come from a people
> themselves, something they own and work towards of
> their own free will. Once achieved it has to be
> guarded and continuously improved upon.
>
> We're not one of the world's most successful
> democracies. It would serve us so much better to get
> to work on our own country in ways that repaired
> cracks that have developed in our own political
> system, establish safeguards against recurrence, etc.
> Then we could lead by example.
>
> P.S. The Iraq war had nothing to do with 'spreading
> the seeds of democracy'. It was an act of greed and
> aggression in pursuit of oil.
Rainy,
The Iraq War for OIL was mostly an act for REVENGE. Georgie wanted to show Mommy & Poppy he has a big pee-pee now & he was going to get that mean old Sadaam for trying to kill Poppy. The other stuff was just a smoke screen.
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Edited by s2grand at 09/12/2009 9:18 AM PDT
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Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 12, 2009 11:59 AM
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JaredP,
> I think this country's foreign policy is both immoral
> and counter-productive. We need to pull all troops
> out of the middle east NOW, take a harder (but not
> antagonistic) line against isreal, and stop
> supporting Jordan and Egypt. Replace some of our
> military expenditures with classic peace-corp style
> foreign aid and nation building, while redirecting
> the rest back into building our own nation.
>
> There, I just disagreed with Obama's policies without
> being a racist. Your arguments are spurious as ever
> Sunaz.
So, you would take troops out of Iraq and Kuwait, big deal. Send a ship back from the Gulf and close down Centcom, that makes sense. Sure, in Fantasy Island.
So, you're admitting you're a teabagger. Glad to hear it.
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