|
|
Barack Obama was elected the 44th president of the United States, as the country chose him as its first African American chief executive.
Share your thoughts on this historic election.
|
Posts:
20,083
Registered:
11/1/01
|
|
(20628 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:34 PM
|
> Yes! To her credit, she saw through it with a little
> research, but why should she have had to look into
> that shit at all?
And she has you... which is good.
> And what of those that don't
> bother?
They're all locked and loaded down at the local town hall meetings, screaming their heads off about commies and fascists infiltrating the gubmint.
|
|
|
Posts:
20,083
Registered:
11/1/01
|
|
(20627 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:30 PM
|
> O'Reilly, Limbaugh and pals could tell their
> audience that national health care is no more
> socialism than public education, social security or
> Medicaid were and that none of our peer countries who
> established health care for all programs decades ago
> are socialist countries. They're capitalist
> democracies with great social programs.
>
> But they won't.
Why would they? Hate sells, and business is good.
|
|
|
Posts:
35,295
Registered:
12/1/04
|
|
(20626 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:30 PM
|
|
I think the same people afraid of Obama's encouraging school kids were convinced wearing a flag pin was an important campaign issue. *rollin my eyes*
|
|
|
Posts:
9,680
Registered:
3/25/08
|
|
(20625 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:29 PM
|
> > But she'll ask me things about health care that
> make
> > me know some of this shit gets through. She
> doesn't
> > buy it in the end, but I hate that the shit is
> so
> > pervasive that she even considered it, know what
> I
> > mean?
>
>
> And that's the problem: it is absolutely insidious.
> Say something often enough, people start to believe
> e it -- no matter how silly.
Yes! To her credit, she saw through it with a little research, but why should she have had to look into that shit at all? And what of those that don't bother?
|
|
|
Posts:
4,140
Registered:
10/4/08
|
|
(20624 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:29 PM
|
> > it's closet racism, plain and simple...I say
> this
> > from my own personal experience of telling
> friends,
> > life-long friends, that I was going to vote for
> Obama
> > last fall and the reactions that I got from some
> of
> > them...
> >
> > ..it was shameful and embarasing me to me
> then...it's
> > shameful and embarassing now
>
> I wholeheartedly agree. Talking to people leading up
> to the election about Obama, and so often ot would
> come down to, "There's just something about
> him I don't trust. Can't quite put my finger on
> it..."
>
> I wanted to scream, "I CAN! DUH!"
I received much more 'direct' feedback from some of my former friends...I won't bother to pollute the thread with the exact quotes...
|
|
|
Posts:
35,295
Registered:
12/1/04
|
|
(20623 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:28 PM
|
O'Reilly, Limbaugh and pals could tell their audience that national health care is no more socialism than public education, social security or Medicaid were and that none of our peer countries who established health care for all programs decades ago are socialist countries. They're capitalist democracies with great social programs.
But they won't.
Because they care so much more about GOP power than what's good for our country.
|
|
|
Posts:
35,295
Registered:
12/1/04
|
|
(20622 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:24 PM
|
longball,
I was afraid to set him down on the floor at the vet's today for fear he'd be one of the big dog's lunch...lol
|
|
|
Posts:
9,680
Registered:
3/25/08
|
|
(20621 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:24 PM
|
> it's closet racism, plain and simple...I say this
> from my own personal experience of telling friends,
> life-long friends, that I was going to vote for Obama
> last fall and the reactions that I got from some of
> them...
>
> ..it was shameful and embarasing me to me then...it's
> shameful and embarassing now
I wholeheartedly agree. Talking to people leading up to the election about Obama, and so often ot would come down to, "There's just something about him I don't trust. Can't quite put my finger on it..."
I wanted to scream, "I CAN! DUH!"
|
|
|
Posts:
35,295
Registered:
12/1/04
|
|
(20620 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:21 PM
|
> But she'll ask me things about health care that make
> me know some of this shit gets through. She doesn't
> buy it in the end, but I hate that the shit is so
> pervasive that she even considered it, know what I
> mean?
prettywitty
Same problem here. My pop's 71, lifelong dem, he's scared about changes to the health care programs for the elderly.
|
|
|
Posts:
3,218
Registered:
5/8/06
|
|
(20619 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:15 PM
|
> > Rainy,
> >
> > Are you still on double secret probation? Of
> course
> > you're not supposed to know when you're on it.
>
> s2grand,
>
> Apparently I've avoided getting caught by the long
> arm of the law so far. *wink*
>
> We have a new puppy in the house, hon. OMG, he's
> heartbreakingly cute...lol
>
> longhaired chihuahua, the littlest dog we've ever
> had. He looked a lot bigger on the computer. The vet
> weighed him today and he's 3 lbs but he feels like
> he's made of feathers.
Three pounds? Sniff craps bigger than that.
|
|
|
Posts:
20,083
Registered:
11/1/01
|
|
(20618 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:13 PM
|
> The problem is entertaining that noise at all.
>
> My mom, for example. She's 67 and fairly progressive
> for her age group. She voted for Obama in both the
> primary and the general. She's reasonably engaged,
> though not the junkie I am. She had no problem with
> Afghanistan but was vehemently against the war in
> Iraq from the time it was merely a whisper. She's
> not at all gullible.
>
> But she'll ask me things about health care that make
> me know some of this shit gets through. She doesn't
> buy it in the end, but I hate that the shit is so
> pervasive that she even considered it, know what I
> mean?
And that's the problem: it is absolutely insidious. Say something often enough, people start to believe it -- no matter how silly.
|
|
|
Posts:
4,140
Registered:
10/4/08
|
|
(20617 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:12 PM
|
> Right? There's an article on CNN's home page right
> now entitiled Educators take heat over Obama
> school speech.
that very article was one of three on my google home page..
click
I can think of no logical reason why any parent would object to the elected leader of the free world encouraging their children to study hard and stay in school...my perception is that this neo-con uproar is of a much more insidious nature than rednecks identifying and dividing into camps over sports teams....
it's closet racism, plain and simple...I say this from my own personal experience of telling friends, life-long friends, that I was going to vote for Obama last fall and the reactions that I got from some of them...
..it was shameful and embarasing me to me then...it's shameful and embarassing now
|
|
|
Posts:
35,295
Registered:
12/1/04
|
|
(20616 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:11 PM
|
> Rainy,
>
> Are you still on double secret probation? Of course
> you're not supposed to know when you're on it.
s2grand,
Apparently I've avoided getting caught by the long arm of the law so far. *wink*
We have a new puppy in the house, hon. OMG, he's heartbreakingly cute...lol
longhaired chihuahua, the littlest dog we've ever had. He looked a lot bigger on the computer. The vet weighed him today and he's 3 lbs but he feels like he's made of feathers.
|
|
|
Posts:
9,680
Registered:
3/25/08
|
|
(20615 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 4:09 PM
|
> I blame it on right-wing extremist radio, mostly.
And FOX News being allowed to call itself news.
> First, they demonized the left and made
> e liberal a filthy word -- to the point that
> liberal pols had to think up a new name:
> Progressives. Next, they convinced their retarded
> d listeners that ANY other media source was
> left/liberal biased and impossible to trust.
That they fell for it is astonishing. The ignorance it must take to buy that, jeez.
> Once those two aspects were in place, people like
> Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly were able to dump
> pretty much any old dippy thing into the heads of
> their demented sheep listeners.
Well, the audience has two good qualities: one, they are a minority, and two, they are predominantly old and thus shrinking in number.
The problem is entertaining that noise at all.
My mom, for example. She's 67 and fairly progressive for her age group. She voted for Obama in both the primary and the general. She's reasonably engaged, though not the junkie I am. She had no problem with Afghanistan but was vehemently against the war in Iraq from the time it was merely a whisper. She's not at all gullible.
But she'll ask me things about health care that make me know some of this shit gets through. She doesn't buy it in the end, but I hate that the shit is so pervasive that she even considered it, know what I mean?
|
|
|
Posts:
20,083
Registered:
11/1/01
|
|
(20614 of 24858)
Re: President Barack Obama
Sep 4, 2009 3:56 PM
|
> Yes, that's exactly what I mean. WTF? It should be
> nothing more than crazy blog fodder.
The media have become as big a pussies as the Democrats in congress.
|
|
|
|
|
