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Barack Obama was elected the 44th president of the United States, as the country chose him as its first African American chief executive.
Share your thoughts on this historic election.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 19, 2009 3:12 PM
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Don17000
Then check again, Sunny. FedEx is a business. UPS is a business. DHL is a business. The Post Office is a public service corporation. It has no shareholders, it doesn't make a profit. Its objective is to pickup and deliver the mail. The USPS is obligated to serve everyone in the United States, (and by APO-FPO, all Americans the US stations abroad,) regardless of where they are, at a uniform price and quality.
So, I pay FedEx or UPS to mail a package, I can also pay them and have a box, where mail will be collected. If someone wishes to send me something, they will pay them to send it.
As for the post office, I pay them to mail a package, and if someone wishes to send me a package, they will pay. If I wish to use a PO Box I will have to pay.
Sounds like they work the same way. I would say they commit acts of business.
More about the post office, they have a monopoly on first and third class mail, meaning any letter sent in the US must be mailed by the post office and only the post office is allowed to use mail boxes.
As for APO-FPO and DPO, they are operated by the Defense department. Specifically to military, each branch pays for the expenses of mailing. So, no added expections are on the post office because of that.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 19, 2009 2:59 PM
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Don17000
The cost of healthcare includes insurance. Health insurance is the way in which most people pay for their healthcare. The rates will rise.
We have a healthcare system that is under employed. As we add more people to the field the demand for their services will increase, meaning the costs will. Even though this bill does not start till 2014, but does collect taxes now, and will not be fully implemented until 2019, we will not produce enough doctors, nurses, and other healthcare professionals to meet the demand.
In the healthcare bill there is a 2.5% excise tax on all medical equipment.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 19, 2009 2:12 PM
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berik
I'm guessing Dodd needed the rest of the senators to approve of moving the rate freeze bill ahead of the rest of the senate agenda so it could go into effect before the holidays and one GOP nay was enough to stop that. Must be they have to have unanimous approval to fast track?
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 19, 2009 2:07 PM
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joe
the card companies are rewarding the great customers who pay off their balances each month with....annual fees!! They're diabolical I tell ya.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 19, 2009 2:05 PM
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joefromusa
That card had a balance of about 50. We've been working at paying them off. I hope we don't get a rake hike on our card with the big balance. I guess if we did, we'd scurry around and try to transfer the balance to a low rate. But if they ALL raise their rates, we won't have anywhere to transfer it to. Bastards.
They're borrowing from the Fed at ZERO. It's just so damn unfair for them to raise our rates
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 19, 2009 9:13 AM
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> But, yeah, the credit card companies are being
> extremely predatory right now. We got a similar
> notice as yours and have perfect credit. We canceled
> that card.
Come'on Rainy, surely yourself and the other 300 million intelligent consumers can just purchase upfront with credit and then immediately pay it off? Otherwise, you'd never use / need it. Your card's just a fancy debit from your independant pool of wealth and assets. Creditors could charge 1000% interest and we'd be none the worse, right? 
And that's the kind of blatantly crass, unshakably perverse, and obtusely proud argument the borrowers (citizens) get from the lenders (conservatives).
I don't operate a credit-offering business, but the sheer VOLUME of credit card business should promote a more affordable interest rate (even with the mechanisms to protect / pursue fraud), than the 20+% we see. Remember that familiar tale about how capitalism produces affordability? Rather, supply-side control creates uniformity and subdugation of the apathetic. How many Pawn Shops charge 20% a month? Mortgage companies? Why is it any less damaging when it happens through a slive of stamped plastic?
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 19, 2009 1:36 AM
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Dems are not on the same page as republicans are. Republicans generally support one another and if you hear one republican speak, you might as well hear all republican congressman but dems are all over the map. They consist of conservatives, moderates and progressives and they are never on the same page. Dems do have a majority but are never in agreement.
That is why progress is so slow.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 19, 2009 1:02 AM
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> does not Democrats control the senate?
> please elaborate on this why could not they just vote
> without debates?
There are still rules to be followed. Having a majority doesn't mean they can be dispensed with.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 19, 2009 12:05 AM
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> Ryan Grim
> ryan@huffingtonpost.com | HuffPost Reporting
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> GOP Blocks Freeze On Credit Card Interest Rate
> Hikes
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> First Posted: 11-18-09 04:59 PM | Updated:
> 11-18-09
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> Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic effort
> Wednesday to immediately freeze increases in credit
> card interest rates, fees and finance charges.
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does not Democrats control the senate?
please elaborate on this why could not they just vote without debates?
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 18, 2009 11:59 PM
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FSG
Well, the people who come to the thread every day always welcome a new topic to discuss so understand the post office talk.
But, yeah, the credit card companies are being extremely predatory right now. We got a similar notice as yours and have perfect credit. We canceled that card.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 18, 2009 11:45 PM
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Rainykincaid-Just got a notice that my credit card company is raising my APR to 23%-time for a balance transfer! That's doing nothing wrong. If the credit card bill was passed in May, why did they wait so long to implement the provisions? As they say in the media business, it must have been a slow day in the news-what was it three pages on the POST OFFICE!!!! And under the President Barack Obama thread.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 18, 2009 11:12 PM
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Ryan Grim
ryan@huffingtonpost.com | HuffPost Reporting
GOP Blocks Freeze On Credit Card Interest Rate Hikes
First Posted: 11-18-09 04:59 PM | Updated: 11-18-09
Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic effort Wednesday to immediately freeze increases in credit card interest rates, fees and finance charges.
Shortly after Democrats passed credit card reform legislation in May, the card companies began jacking up rates in advance of its implementation. Major parts of the act won't take effect until February and August of 2010.
Earlier this month, to combat the rate hikes, the House passed legislation to move the effective date up to December 1st. The Senate moves much more slowly and the credit card industry has been arguing that it can't practically get its act together to implement the reforms that quickly.
Okay, said Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), who sponsored the original bill that passed 90-5. Instead of implementing the entire basket of reforms, Dodd proposed instead simply freezing interest rate and fee hikes in advance of the holidays. Surely, he said, that's not too difficult to implement.
"We worked long and hard to enact the safeguards included in the Credit CARD Act," said Dodd. "And no sooner had it been signed into law, but credit card companies were looking for ways to get around the protections this Congress and the American people demanded. This bill would end those abuses and further protect customers today."
The Senate schedule is packed with nominations, health care and appropriations bills, leaving no time for a prolonged floor fight over credit cards.
The only way Democrats could pass the bill in time for the holidays would be with the support of the GOP -- all but five of which voted for it initially.
Dodd, on Wednesday afternoon, asked for unanimous consent to move the bill forward.
"On behalf of several senators on this side of the aisle, I object," said Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). And that's the end of it.
The Senate moved on to a tribute to the service of Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), who became the longest-serving senator in the history of the institution Wednesday.
WATCH:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/18/gop-blocks-freeze-on-cred_n_362787.html
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 18, 2009 9:50 PM
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> >
> > The post office has always been a business,
> whether
> > for or not for profit. A business provides a
> > service.
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> Yeah, so does a government. You have said yourself
> in answer to other posts I've made that police and
> fire protection are "services" the state provides.
> So, does that make the state a business, or just the
> e fire and police departments?
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> Looks like you don't know the difference between a
> business and a corporation.
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> A business is an entity, and is owned by its
> shareholders.
"Looks like you don't know the difference between a
business and a corporation." OR his sunass & a hole in the ground.
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 18, 2009 9:35 PM
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Don,
Actually the US military is probably AT LEAST 50/50 at this point, and that's just counting "warfighters."
The blur between public and private is now so complete as be virtually indistinguishable. That's how the current knot-head elite designed it to be.
You can thank Bush/Cheney for sure, but you REALLY have to give a shout out to their Shavetail accomplices as well IMO.
DaN
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Re: President Barack Obama
Nov 18, 2009 9:33 PM
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> The post office has always been a business, whether
> for or not for profit. A business provides a
> service.
Yeah, so does a government. You have said yourself in answer to other posts I've made that police and fire protection are "services" the state provides. So, does that make the state a business, or just the fire and police departments?
Looks like you don't know the difference between a business and a corporation.
A business is an entity, and is owned by its shareholders.
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