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News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch made the dire prediction that John McCain will lose the general presidential election by "a landslide."
Do you agree with his prediction?
What can McCain do to turn things around?
Do Murdoch's views matter?
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
Jun 8, 2008 2:51 PM
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> Mccain is the next Herbert Hoover. A sucker picked
> out to take the brunt of the worst corruption that
> ever took office.
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> The Republican Party should be disbanded. Its
> viability as a national Party is over. Shut it down
> and hand out indictments.
The beauty of this for them is that after the ugliness of the Clinton impeachment hearings, America won't impeach anyone else for at least another decade or three. They have cart blanche to do whatever they want without punishment.
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
Jun 5, 2008 3:37 PM
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This race will be a joke, look at these guys at fox, giving in already.
TPMtv: McCain Leaves Fox Speechless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
Jun 2, 2008 3:17 PM
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Murdochs views matter, but only as much as ours. I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping that the current administration doesn't rig the polling machines again. I'm in the south right now, traveling north, and a lot of people are really for Obama but also very skeptical that he might actually win.
Just goes to show how little faith the vast majority has in our electoral process.
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"... And I appreciate the fact that you really snatched defeat out of the jaws of those who are trying to defeat us in Iraq." --George W. Bush 3.3.2008 ... the LEGACY CONTINUES
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
Jun 1, 2008 8:33 PM
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Mccain is the next Herbert Hoover. A sucker picked out to take the brunt of the worst corruption that ever took office.
The Republican Party should be disbanded. Its viability as a national Party is over. Shut it down and hand out indictments.
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
Jun 1, 2008 5:13 PM
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Eggsactly.
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
Jun 1, 2008 4:27 PM
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> Don
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> Where does the citizen have more power--in the ballot
> box or in the jury box?
The individual citizen has more power in the jury box, unquestionably. Besides the answers you gave.. A jury is generally required to be unanimous. This means a single person can deadlock the panel. That's a power that does not exist in an election.
And if they jury refuses to apply the law, it does still set a precedent.
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Edited by Don17000 at 06/01/2008 1:29 PM PDT
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
Jun 1, 2008 4:24 PM
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> I'm serious, Don. I don't like any of the candidates
> and I'm so tired of voting for the lesser of two
> evils.
>
So, you would willingly settle for the greater of two evils?
> In your opinion, what can the public do to shake up
> the status quo in terms of allowing another or other
> parties as a serious contender for a Presidential
> election?
Launch a new revolution.
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
Jun 1, 2008 3:55 PM
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Bzzzz, wrong answer and wrong explanation.
First of all, if there is any power at all to be found in the vote of the citizen, then one of these votes might be more powerful than the other.
And that is the case with the vote of the jury.
It can pass judgment on a specific application of the law against a fellow citizen.
Just for a day, a jury has the power to say that "this law is a piece of shit" OR "we don't like the way this law is being applied in this case". The citizen's obligation from time to time, to vote against the garbage that is too many laws.
The vote in the ballot box does not have anywhere that power.
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
May 31, 2008 8:14 PM
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> Don
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> Where does the citizen have more power--in the ballot
> box or in the jury box?
Neither. Both are rigged to seed power back a higher designated magistrate or other official.
Court:
A judge has the power to tailor any presentation based upon what he allows the other officers of the court, the lawyers to present, ultimately determining the outcome...(they also do shit like look for 8-10 jurors who appear to be easily manipulated, banking that 1-3 analytically inclined citizens can steer the ship which is why they ask you your profession during the jury selection process).
Voting:
Electronic voting machines. End of story.
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
May 31, 2008 6:40 PM
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> > EDITED--- this is a response to Jet's.
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> >
> > Such a defeatist attitude.
> >
> > We can't let the bad guys win.
> >
> > The airwaves have been flooded with propaganda
> in the
> > guise of cutting edge news.
> >
> > I say a write in vote for Mickey Mouse. What
> harm
> > could come of say a million votes for Mickey
> Mouse.
> >
> > We can live the fantasy.
> >
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> > Edited by mycucina at 05/30/2008 6:59 PM PDT
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> I understand this happened in Australia once... and
> I think Mickey actually qualified for a runoff.
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> As for what harm could come... Well, if McCain ends
> up by winning the electoral votes of a state like
> Florida by fewer than the number of votes that went
> to Mickey Mouse....
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> I would say a whole lot of harm can from it.
>
> Be as funny as you like on the forums... but the
> Ballot box is no place for humor.
I'm serious, Don. I don't like any of the candidates and I'm so tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.
In your opinion, what can the public do to shake up the status quo in terms of allowing another or other parties as a serious contender for a Presidential election?
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
May 31, 2008 6:17 PM
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Don
Where does the citizen have more power--in the ballot box or in the jury box?
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
May 31, 2008 4:34 PM
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> What's he predicting? I mean, Rupert Murdoch controls
> the airwaves and spoon feeds us much of what we see
> and hear, if he makes it his business to get the
> Democrat elected, that's a lot of kick in a campaign.
Where's the "you only get from the system what you put into it" company motto you posted on the Mclellan thread?
What you're saying with the statement above is that the system can be circumvented which is EXACTLY what I was saying.
Glad to see you agree..... or, you've changed your mind in a few minutes... either way, fine by me...
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Edited by socialsatyr at 05/31/2008 1:36 PM PDT
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
May 31, 2008 4:25 PM
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> EDITED--- this is a response to Jet's.
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> Such a defeatist attitude.
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> We can't let the bad guys win.
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> The airwaves have been flooded with propaganda in the
> guise of cutting edge news.
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> I say a write in vote for Mickey Mouse. What harm
> could come of say a million votes for Mickey Mouse.
>
> We can live the fantasy.
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> --
> Edited by mycucina at 05/30/2008 6:59 PM PDT
I understand this happened in Australia once... and I think Mickey actually qualified for a runoff.
As for what harm could come... Well, if McCain ends up by winning the electoral votes of a state like Florida by fewer than the number of votes that went to Mickey Mouse....
I would say a whole lot of harm can from it.
Be as funny as you like on the forums... but the Ballot box is no place for humor.
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
May 31, 2008 12:42 AM
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> I'm not so sure. If Obama is the candidate as it
> appears he will be, there are those "uneducated"
> voters who perceive Obama as the bad guy. How
> misguided they might be, to them, McCain is the
> better of two evils.
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> We have a serious situation in this next election.
VERY! We're screwed no matter what, IMO.
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Edited by ronnie at 05/30/2008 9:43 PM PDT
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Re: Rupert Murdoch Says McCain to Lose in Landslide
May 31, 2008 12:03 AM
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> It aggrieves me, to say it... but I agree with
> Murdoch.
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> I don't think I would be surprised if McCain failed
> to carry all the assured blue states.
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> And even if I thought there was anything McCain could
> do to turn things around...
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> UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD I TELL HIM!
LOL! It was worth a try! 
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