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Swift Boating 2008 -- What do you expect?

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CNN reports that The Republican National Committee is upping their efforts in attacking Barack Obama with targeted websites. But what about "private" parties?

Independent groups with airtime. How would they attack the candidates in the running right now?
Last Post Jun 7, 2008 7:38 AM by: Host_Jane
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Jun 7, 2008 7:38 AM
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> So what are the issues that would sink Obama's
> campaign?
>
> What can Obama do to counter them?


Last night on Washington Week in Review, they talked about what looked like both campaign strategies. McCain is trying to reach out to the groups that strongly supported Hillary - elderly, women, working class whites. McCain also seems to be using experience as his positives, and trying to distance himself from Bush.

Obama and the Democrats will focus on McCain's close ties with Bush, basically saying you can be experienced in politics and foreign affairs and still be wrong in your judgment and decisions.

If the economy keeps tanking, the experience factor isn't going to play well with McCain, since his record isn't particularly stellar in this area.

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Jun 7, 2008 12:46 AM
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So what are the issues that would sink Obama's campaign?

What can Obama do to counter them?
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May 25, 2008 2:16 PM
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And I"ll third it, Interesting site.

http://www.mccainpedia.org
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May 25, 2008 8:52 AM
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Thank you for your service, Pappy.

It is indeed sad that the mainstream media has disintegrated into little more than a rumor mill.
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May 23, 2008 1:20 AM
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As a Vietnam veteran (1966-1967) I can tell you that anyone who still believes in anything that the GOP or the swift boat jerks say as truth is not only delusional but down right anti-American in my book. I researched what the swift boat traitors put out as fact only to find out that for the most part it was completely made up. Our own Navy disputed their claims as they found NOTHING to warrent the lie's they were spreading and in fact put out that part of Kerry's record to show that what he recieved as medals he had in fact earned. Most of the swift boat gang had in fact never met John Kerry and in fact those that did confirmed his account of what happened in each of their separate reports to the higher ups. This so called group of patriots are nothing more than Anti-American liers whose only claim to fame is what they make up and pass off as truth. I would personally not hesitate to call them traitors to their faces any time. As for me I will never believe anything they or the GOP say on ANY issue given the track record of the last eight years. If this were the wild West they would have been stung up on the nearest tree and left to swing in the breeze. Do I expect them to try the same tactics as before YES I do but I believe that the American people are getting wiser and more informed now and fully expect them not to fall for the same old same old. If the voters are looking for a candidate that does not have any flaws or skeletons in their closet then they will have to vote for "NONE OF THE ABOVE" as there will NEVER be a candidate that will be accepted by all. This country deserves better than the swift boat loonies and their followers. We have had to many good Americans give their all over the last 200 years to let the swift boat crowd
ruin what this great country has always stood for which includes honesty, integrety, compassion. To have a so called brother in arms tear down ANYONES acheivments while in the military is beyond every decent human beings comprehension and should be condemed by us all.
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May 20, 2008 1:51 AM
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I second that thanks Host Jane.
I'll pass that around.

http://www.mccainpedia.org

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Edited by JimEarl at 05/19/2008 10:51 PM PDT
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May 19, 2008 2:55 PM
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Jane,

I like that site, thanks for sharing it. I hope as the campaign rolls along a lot of other topics will be added to the list. What's your take on it?
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May 19, 2008 11:40 AM
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> > So does anyone think the recent attacks on
> Michelle
> > Obama will be part of a larger campaign this
> fall?
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> Are they not warranted?


I would much prefer a campaign based on the issues and the candidates rather than spouses, but it's also part of the baggage associated with running for president these days. Let no dirty laundry go unexamined.

Has anyone seen McCainpedia (http://www.mccainpedia.org)? What do you think of this approach by the DNC?

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May 18, 2008 3:30 PM
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> So does anyone think the recent attacks on Michelle
> Obama will be part of a larger campaign this fall?


Are they not warranted?
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May 18, 2008 3:06 PM
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> > Besides, the guy has so many other
> > weaknesses....such as lying like Dick
> > Cheney at an American Legion hall
> > but on TV instead.
> >

>
> Hey Jim,
>
> Did you catch him on Saturday Night Live?
>
> He actually kinda scared me.
>
> :X


No I didn't.
What? did he sing bomb, bomb, bomb,
bomb, bomb Iran to the tune of the Beach Boys ?

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Back in my day, we took risks and fought 'em all."
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May 18, 2008 2:38 PM
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> Besides, the guy has so many other
> weaknesses....such as lying like Dick
> Cheney at an American Legion hall
> but on TV instead.
>


Hey Jim,

Did you catch him on Saturday Night Live?

He actually kinda scared me.

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May 17, 2008 2:22 AM
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> I am wondering about McCain's claim to War Hero and
> his obsession with good luck charms. I was reading
> The Nation who made a reference to McCain's
> collaboration with the Vietcon. A little research on
> the web came up with enough information to warrent
> some serious questioning from the media regarding
> McCain's suppression of prison camp documents
> requested by families of MIAs and the exact nature of
> his relationship with the enemy.
>


Attacking (& reminding people of) a POW is
a profit-less endeavor with a definite backlash
potential.....and it was the North Vietnamese
Army not Victor Charlie which were
South Vietnamese insurgents. McCain
was shot down over North Vietnam.....Be
sure and remind them of that too....NOT !

Besides, the guy has so many other
weaknesses....such as lying like Dick
Cheney at an American Legion hall
but on TV instead.

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May 17, 2008 12:46 AM
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Jim,

Yeah, there is no bottom to how low the GOP campaign promoters will delve as they've proved over and over. Obama's daughters aren't even safe.
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May 17, 2008 12:17 AM
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So does anyone think the recent attacks on Michelle Obama will be part of a larger campaign this fall?
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May 16, 2008 7:21 PM
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> Now there's a good one, McCain claimed he refused to
> make more than one propaganda tape. So if he lied
> about any part of it, the whole POW thing is a wash,
> right?


Yeah, to most, but they'd still run on it if it came down to it.

I mean they resorted to "if a democrat wins, the terrorists will attack again" already...
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