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As America hurtles toward the next presidential race, the HBO film 'Recount' will relive the fervor of 2000's messy election. Kevin Spacey and Denis Leary take Al Gore's fight to the courts on May 25 - make your own case on the boards, where the most cogent arguments will be featured in a special poll on HBO.com. And don't worry - this time all the votes will be counted. The question: Do you believe the Supreme Court's handling of Gore v. Bush was partisan? http://boards.hbo.com/topic/Hbo-Official-Threads/Believe-Supreme-Courts/1900006032
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 4:51 PM
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I thought the concept of a North American Union was a conspiracy that rose out of fearful reaction to mention of the Nafta highway (which was never an actual highway but rather a phrase to refer to the collection of regs in the Nafta trade agreements). People caught wind of this NAFTA highway and...gasp! omg!! flipped out ...and fear and paranoia led to ensuing conspiracy theories that the powers that be in North America were planning on uniting the countries like the EU.
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 4:45 PM
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spydoy... WHEN IT COMES TO ENDING THE US IN FAVOR
OF THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION...............................
I SAY THE HECK WITH "ANY" SECRETS!!!
Silence in this case is Fools Gold!!!
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 4:40 PM
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And besides! What is all this struggle over the same
funny-money system aboot anyway? The Amero will
be printed by the same monkeys who keep hitting the
print button on the dollar machine.
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 4:21 PM
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Jimearl----THANK YOU.
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 4:19 PM
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Oh C-mon guys! i try to be social with these guys.
Get their opinion on the verichip.
But on to something new for now, like hillary's drug-daze.
July 11, 1974.
"Another crazy day on the Hill — running around, meetings, phone calls, one thing after another. Didn’t get home until 12:30, and I have to be up at 6:00 tomorrow. (I mean today.) The only bright spot came during lunch recess, when _________(a fellow staff member) handed me a packet of bootleg Canadian sweetener with CYCLAMATES!!!!! Praise the Lord — I would have kissed her if we weren’t both so busy. One hit of that stuff and I was flying all afternoon. Next chance I get for a vacation, I’m definitely going to Toronto."
The next month Nixon resigned, lifting an enormous weight from Hillary’s
Plenty more on the "Hillary Clinton Quartarly"
Was "cyclamates" the reason for NAFTA? (lol)
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 7:09 AM
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Yes, Nancy, you're in good company here, at least for the most part.
I think people are rallied and ready to vote in a rational, intelligent president like they did in 2000, only this time by a landslide, and that there'll be a major shift in the makeup of both Houses of Congress to a Democratic majority who are rational, intelligent, and brave.
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 3:37 AM
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Remember: Regime change starts at home! The kind of freedom we have needs to be checked on. In a Democracy, We can not let the looser take over our White House!! Nor can we let them take over our national capital. And please, let us remember, a prariot is someone that DEFENDS THE CONSTUTUON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let that be a lesson to us all, and let everyone ask themselves: Did we learn anything??? Or was it a waste? If we learned something, it was not a complete waste, but do we know???? Dose anyone know what I just said????????????????????????????
Hello! Did anyone hear what I just said?????????????????????????
NEW RULE: THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES MUST BE INTELLIGENT AND RATIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DOES ANYONE HEAR ME?? DOES ANYONE AGREE??
Can anyone answer?????????????????
AND, I HOPE OUR NEW PRESIDENT NOT ONLY REPRESENTS ME , BUT ALSO IS ELITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OR ELSE, MAYBE I evalved AND YOU didN'T.
Please tell me, are you with me on this or am I out of line?? Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me know.
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 1:47 AM
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> Oh Yeah, on Iran. Thomas Friedman, the very excellent
> NY
> Times writer says the easiest way to solve the
> problems with Iran is to offer the visas again for
> their students to come to US Universities.
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> He says if we allowed 50,000 Iranian students to come
> here and study each year, imagine the effect and
> impact they would have after returning home and
> entering the job market and middle and upper
> classes.
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> I agree, after 4 years of American life, love, and
> culture, these folks would be the best 'sleeper
> agents for change' we could ask for. Maybe a future
> Iranian President might come out of the wild crew at
> Daytona Spring Break!!!
> Why not??? 
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> all it takes for evil to triumph is to vote
> republican!
Spydoy,
I thought the Iranian students and young people were already lauded for being fairly progressive (compared to their repressive state).
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 1:45 AM
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My theory is shit does indeed happen. Look what the poor Iraqi people have gone through.
Nuclear war is a possibility, hopefully a remote one, but our biggest fear.
Cyber-terrorism is a worry. I can't remember which country it was but hackers shut down an entire country's internet sometime last year over some political issue, a little country, not huge like us.
Bio-terrorism is scary. If terrorists planted deadly disease germs in several major cities at once for something awful like ebola, etc. panic and chaos would ensue.
So, given the US's huge population nowadays, I actually find comfort in thinking the feds have implemented all kinds of programs to help us if something terrible were to happen. Especially after seeing the clusterfuck response to Katrina.
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 1:42 AM
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Oh Yeah, on Iran. Thomas Friedman, the very excellent NY
Times writer says the easiest way to solve the problems with Iran is to offer the visas again for their students to come to US Universities.
He says if we allowed 50,000 Iranian students to come here and study each year, imagine the effect and impact they would have after returning home and entering the job market and middle and upper classes.
I agree, after 4 years of American life, love, and culture, these folks would be the best 'sleeper agents for change' we could ask for. Maybe a future Iranian President might come out of the wild crew at Daytona Spring Break!!!
Why not???
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 1:41 AM
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I just posted this on another smaller thread but see y'all are discussing related topics here so posting a copy.
fisajoe,
This is related to people's fears over those bills you mentioned. In this case all the paranoia on the net about 'FEMA camps'.
on the FEMA camps:
I was looking for articles from legit news sources about the 'internment camps' rumored and feared on the net but didn't come across any.
If we ever suffer a nuclear war, bio-terrorism attack that infects millions with some deadly disease, or another possibly even worse Katrina type natural disaster (like a massive San Andreas or New Madrid earthquake that results in millions of survivor/refugees) it would be reassuring to think the government has wisely set up someplace for all of the displaced people to go. If something like that were to happen in Canada or Mexico millions might rush to the US for shelter and assistance, as well.
I'm trying to imagine what would happen if say, NYC or some other massively populated area were nuked which would result in millions of homeless survivors all at once. The entire area and every thing in it, all of their possessions, would be contaminated and abandoned like Chernobyl. The millions of survivors, with nothing, so vulnerable would need someplace to shelter, recover, etc.
So, while the conspiracy buffs online cloak this issue in boogieman language and fear...I see it as a positive preparedness issue.
After watching Americans suffer in Katrina, I would like to think the Feds learned from the experience and are planning on being more prepared next time there's a major negative similar event.
but I can't figure out of the sites that discuss the feared 'camps' are legit or bogus fear-mongering and made up.
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 1:22 AM
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> We are carrying out policies declared in the Bush
> administration's 2004 and 2006 National Security
> Strategy (that is where we declared war on Iran)
> which is not at all about nuclear disarmament.
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> It's about regime change.
So, this could be why they cold-shouldered the Iranian moderates that were trying to engage the US in a real dialogue. Everything was open for discussion and everything was on the table as far as US gripes.
All they wanted was to rejoin the International Community and get the sanctions lifted. For that, they were willing to make almost any concession. Like I posted before, the equivalent of a diplomatic wet dream.
It was the failure of these moderates that enabled the hard line faction to rise to power, Ahmadinejad and company.
Either way, the refusal of the Bush/Cheney wrecking crew to engage these moderates creates the current climate of distrust and hate we have now.
Y'know, this issue, combined with a lot of other things , could make a conspiracy theorist out of the most hard core sceptic:
Ignore BClintons warning to the incoming Pres that the greatest threat in future will be Al-qaeda+9/11+War on Terror+AfghanistanWar/pipeline deals+Iraq has WMD and is with Al-Qaeda+Iraq war+Privatization of most gov/defense+ignore Iranian moderates/create Iran boogeyman+prolong Iraq war by irresponsible strategy+result is military worn out needs complete refurbish over next decade/billions in defense contracts+Army, Marines to expand+Cheney's secret Energy Task Force maps out division of Iraqi Oil fields 2 years before war/ deregulates across the board,creating ability to speculate oil future/crude goes sky high+Dubai and other oil rich buy American infrastructure/defense works+military/defensesupply/manufacture/outsourced+
Globalization/worldBank/IMF/Nationalsecuritystrategy+
ExecutiveOrders+NAU+Amero
+VERICHIP+domesticsurveillance+PATRIOTACT+GITMO+
renditions+Katrina.......etc.,etc.,
Whew!!!Good thing I don't believe in conspiracies!!!!!
And Pelosi says Impeachment is off the table???
No problem! just don't vote for the new guy with no baggage, we hardly need a new man with a new set of ideas,right?? After all he's Black, and knows a controversial preacher. Hell, NO American president EVER had a friendly relationship with racist, anti-gay, anti-semite preachers right? Like Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell just to name a few.
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Re: What's New in the News
May 13, 2008 12:47 AM
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OK joe, let's be clear.
These Feds, covered as FEMA guys far from any FEMA action, seem to be interested in your activities, like where you go and who you might see.
and like agents anywhere, they get real shy if anyone gets interested, that right??
What else do you do, besides post here and tape 'rock?
got some friends with a record of anti-social behavior of the Fed variety??
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Re: What's New in the News
May 12, 2008 8:25 PM
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> Jimearl....C-mon! Even a monkey (like me) can
> browse up Executive order 11051, verichip,
> Rex 84/night train, AMERO, North American Union...
> like the western European Union that WWII created
> back in '49, USNORTHCOM (with the UN blue hats),
> Counsil on foreign relations,World Bank and IMF...
> ..er....some of the names on the DC Madam's list
> that the public can't seem to get a hold
> of...........
> The IMF boys must be on the CIA's "John Protection
> Program"
Hell fisajoe.
The UN is the LEAST of my worries.
The UN can't even hang in Iraq after one stinking
truck bomb !
When we went into Iraq we trashed every treaty we
ever signed with the UN.
My biggest worry about the UN is that we buy them
off to do our bidding.
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