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Why does Bill Maher keep insisting on attacking people like myself who simply have questions about 9/11 and don't believe the government's story?
What's really upsetting is that someone in his position, someone with a weekly talk show, uses that show to call-out 9-11 Truthers, but yet refuses to have anyone on his show to debate the issue.
If Bill (or anyone else for that matter), wants to believe the government's story, fine. Everyone is entitled their opinion. But...
NEW RULE: Stop using your show to pick these fights while refusing to engage in a real debate. (That's what Rush Limbaugh does.) Otherwise you're the one who looks like a raging lunatic and you're the one losing credibility.
Instead, dedicate one of your shows to a debate. Have on any of the numerous professors, scientists, politicians, documentarians, authors, ex-military personnel, or even celebrities who have expressed doubt in the governments account of 9/11. Some suggestions: David Ray Griffin, Professor Steven Jones (physics), Robert Baer (ex-CIA), Lt. Col. Bob Bowman, Alex Jones, and if he's sober, Charlie Sheen. Take your pick Bill, and there are many more.
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well...I hate acting like a girl ---but a tear can easily trace my face as I look out from Planetpam at the world - I understand - lots of all of this is just TOO MUCH!
So I will pound on Congress again this evening [to no avail -but it is the principle of these matters and the time I would waste here is more time hounding them right?]
...but as the thought of an air strike on Iran is starting to bring on tears of frustration again - I must go dig in the dirt and nurture my own soul right now...and water the additional 75 more tomato and pepper plants I just planted before dark last night & feed my chickens, Australian red claw crayfish and the slew of farm cats....and tend to my almonds, peaches, apples, cherries, plums, apricots, and pear trees that are LOADED with fruit this year again.
There is ONE HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME & THE BILDERBERGS, OUR CONgress of mostly CORRUPT POLITICIANS, AND THESE SOCIOPATH NEOCON ELITES THAT ARE RUNNING THE POWER SHOWS RIGHT NOW...
.....I have a soul [a very old soul]....AND THEY HAVE NO SOUL [as seen in Cheney's dark beady eyes for one glaring example]
...and I will mix my war paints & smoke to the 4 directions [and ask the Old Ones for some help]... and continue to pray for peace
ps/THERE IS SOME GOOD NEWS - THE REST OF THE billionaire POWER PLAYERS THAT ARE NOT WITH BILDERBERG HAVE ALSO HAD MEETINGS LATELY [I call them the Light workers]...and they are still FIGHTING THESE 'POWERS THAT BE' from within & from all around these elites [and they hopefully have a brilliant plan worked up!...cuz short of aliens intervening in a good way ...we are screwed without these Light Workers].
Planetpam,
Thank you, hon, and good to see you post again. Your 'planet' sounds heavenly, congrats on the garden and orchard 
Wish I knew who the 'light workers' were so I could follow their work and applaud them!
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> the Bush directive to protect the Bin
> Ladins the day after 9/11,
Rainy -- What Bush directive would that be?
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> Thank god that Implosionworld came to the rescue to
> redefine the term AFTER it became paramount to
> redefine it. If I ever have to slap someone, I'll be
> sure to redefine the term if the police show up.
Ah. So you were in the demo business prior to 9/11/01?
> No, building 7 collapsed due to the weight of
> the SEC files on fortune 500 companies who
> were robbing Peter, Paul and Mary. Good thing that
> building fell so eloquently because China was
> short on rubble.
Ah. None of the records were backed up offsite? They were conducting business as they did in the 1950s, before computers? I see.
> It's crazy... that thing called logic. Nigro
> walked into a retirement filled with a nice, Cushy
> and newly formed National Terrorism position
> and let's not forget the speaking
> engagements.....oh no, let's not forget about
> those. I hear it's a nice way to pay for coffee at
> Starbucks.
Ah. Are you holding Willie Rodriguez to the same standard?
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>
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> > Whelp, when I was growing up in the 70s, it was
> > acid.
> >
> > > http://www.chemindustry.com/chemicals/619651.html" target="_blank">Purp
>
> > le Haze LSD
> >
>
>
> Come along with me to the year 2008.
Ah. So you're changing the definition after the fact?
> Um...The United States is owned and operated in
> England. That means England has a copy of the script.
> The BBC was notifying US Goober.
> "Hey guess what is going to happen in about 30
> minutes". You need a thorough history lesson
> before I lose my patience.
Please try to make some sense, m'kay?
> Oh yeah... like when someone admits murder and
> then recants?
> Oh shit, did I say I murdered someone? I
> didn't mean to say that. The wind tends to blow in
> different directions Mr. Meteorologist. The truth
> isn't wind Johnny. The truth can't be blown in any
> direction.
LOL. So, clarifying a statement is the same thing as recanting a confession of murder? You people are nuts.
> Well, when he agreed to be the tortured soul
> who's beloved buildings had to be the target
> of people who "just don't like our credit card
> debt ridden, teen group pregnancy lifestyle".
> Good thing there was a nice payday as the consolation
> for securing the lease to buildings that have never
> been leased privately before huh? I mean, that's a
> once in a lifetime proposition. Damn..... Oh, shit,
> what in the hell am I implying?
Nice payday? It's called Insurance. Lotsa people have it. You should check into it.
> > Oh, right. The evil MIC jumped the gun on
> their
> > press release about blowing up a building. Gee,
> why
> > not just hold a press conference?
>
>
> Too risky. We might have become suspicious.
Sheesh. But you fully believe the MIC would give advance notice of Bldg 7's collapse? Why would ANY type of announcement be necessary? It's not as if no reporters were on the scene. Goofy.
> > Different situations at different buildings.
> >
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>
> Here's the difference... Silvertongue didn't
> own them.
Irrelevant. Why don't you accuse the other owners of conspiracy to defraud insurers?
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> > Should we have developed a relationship of
> animosity
> > as far as international relations against Saudi
> > Arabia after 9/11 instead of going to war in
> Iraq?
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> rainy, so much more ha been revealed since the unger
> vanity fair article. the stream of connections from
> saudi officials to the bush admin is staggering to
> say the least. if we add to these connections the
> fact the bush admin was responsible for allowing the
> saudis to flee after 9/11 we have complicity in the
> most tragic event in our history. then the bush admin
> concealed this info. then the bush admin redacted
> more info concerning the saudi arabian involvement in
> 9/11. then only after several lawsuits did the US
> info on saudi involvement start to be revealed.
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>
>
> the problem was the saudi were in up to their necks
> with al q and 9/11. there was too much documentation
> of facts to cover up world wide (places bush
> supporter don't control). these documents indict the
> saudis and bush admin. this is why bush supporters
> must try to dismiss the saudi arabian involvement in
> 9/11.
>
>
> the problem for bush supporters who say these
> documents "don't prove anything" is the ranks of
> "kooks" and "conspiracy theorists" were melted
> together on 9/11 with big money interests, the
> israeli government, the french government and the US
> congress, all thanks to the saudis. perhaps these
> bush supporters should not have placed their trust in
> the saudi arabians to conceal all the damning
> connections.
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> Edited by facedecoolo at 06/23/2008 8:19 AM PDT
face,
I'm not a good student of 9/11 because so much of it is technical but the Saudis have been like...what's the word?...never mentioned in the news, almost never despite Moore's Farenheit 9/11 movie, the madrassas, the hijackers coming from Saudi, Osama and AlQ being from there, the Bush directive to protect the Bin Ladins the day after 9/11, the Bush family's history of being Saudi royal family good friends....
When the 9/11 commission was doing their investigation many documents were denied to them or heavily redacted and I've always wondered if it wasn't because of the official reason, national security risk and classified, but because the info would point to the Saudis.
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> RK
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> I'm not sure about which theory you reference.
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> If the US radar system was spoofed that day, which it
> was, what sort of accurate conclusions can be made
> regarding that data? Precious little.
>
> As for the Flight 77 thing, no matter how valid or
> not the radar data is, the Flight Data Recorder
> information acquired from NTSB has shown that the
> airplane the FDR was onboard was 400 feet in the air
> when it arrived at the Pentagon.
>
> Point is, the evidence that is available does not
> support the official story. It contradicts it.
Jet,
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> Did you know that Bremer's company leased about 6
> floors of 8 in the North Tower where the Boeing
> actually struck?
So?
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> the problem for bush supporters who say these
> documents "don't prove anything" is the ranks of
> "kooks" and "conspiracy theorists" were melted
> together on 9/11 with big money interests, the
> israeli government, the french government and the US
> congress, all thanks to the saudis. perhaps these
> bush supporters should not have placed their trust in
> the saudi arabians to conceal all the damning
> connections.
Problem is, it isn't just Bush supporters who think you're all batty. That's simply your "if you're not with us, you're against us" thinking. Your hatred of this administration is clouding your ability to think rationally, buddy. 2+2=5.
I think Bigfoot did it.
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> Should we have developed a relationship of animosity
> as far as international relations against Saudi
> Arabia after 9/11 instead of going to war in Iraq?
rainy, so much more ha been revealed since the unger vanity fair article. the stream of connections from saudi officials to the bush admin is staggering to say the least. if we add to these connections the fact the bush admin was responsible for allowing the saudis to flee after 9/11 we have complicity in the most tragic event in our history. then the bush admin concealed this info. then the bush admin redacted more info concerning the saudi arabian involvement in 9/11. then only after several lawsuits did the US info on saudi involvement start to be revealed.
the problem was the saudi were in up to their necks with al q and 9/11. there was too much documentation of facts to cover up world wide (places bush supporter don't control). these documents indict the saudis and bush admin. this is why bush supporters must try to dismiss the saudi arabian involvement in 9/11.
the problem for bush supporters who say these documents "don't prove anything" is the ranks of "kooks" and "conspiracy theorists" were melted together on 9/11 with big money interests, the israeli government, the french government and the US congress, all thanks to the saudis. perhaps these bush supporters should not have placed their trust in the saudi arabians to conceal all the damning connections.
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Interesting stuff.
Did you ever see the videos of Bremer's Boys rolling around wheelbarrows full of US Currency in Iraq? What fun, eh? 60 Minutes covered it.
Did you know that Bremer's company leased about 6 floors of 8 in the North Tower where the Boeing actually struck?
Yeah, another one of those little "coincidences."
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Rainy wrote = "Bremer is trained in the art of culinary cooking and taught cooking classes in Vermont before being called to duty in Iraq[9]. From his extensive travels throughout the world, Bremer has mentioned that his favorite cuisines include French, Middle Eastern, and Chinese cuisines. He is also interested in gardening, and he owns a vegetable garden."
BREMER....THE WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING ---ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE PUT IN HIGH PLACES [like Running the war in Iraq straight from teaching culinary classes for godsakes!]He was the idiot that fired the IRAQI ARMY and made collausal mistake after mistake [that was NO ACCIDENT either really]...and I would have to venture to say that he [and his entire PNAC bunch] were also in on the 9/11 FALSE FLAG = that trumped the war in Iraq... of course that is an 'alleged' remark =LOL...but he also attended a few of the BILDERBERG GROUP MEETINGS RECENTLY in VA....at least he was spotted pulling up in the armored limos guarded by Blackwater and was whisked in and out in a cloak of secrecy!
THEY GIVE THESE CROOKS MEDALS! [that is a bit above the top isn't it?]
....AND WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE GREAT JOB RAINY, S2grand, jimearl, many others AND JET has continued to do in these BLOGS...i am too short of time these days
I have been sitting things out mostly lately ...and concentrating on trying to push for no more voting machine fraud for 2008 & some local gov changes etc...but as www.blackboxvoting.org proved in trailing after the primaries ...the 'voting machine fixes & fraud is going strong & were already working overtime for Hillary several times and were a huge part of driving us all NUTS[er] until she finally stepped down [she's not going away of course! = when she said 'OBLITERATE IRAN' - I couldn't get "You f--king elite Neocon corporate f--king BITCH" out of my mouth fast enough!]
I would also like to say that Obama has turned out to be a bigger disappointment than I anticipated = I investigated him till the cows came home from the get-go ...in re-reading his website end to end again ---I saw some neon changes that were even more pro-Israel [and seemed to talk straight to the Jewish Lobby =which is smart - if you want to win of course].... and then him and Hillary also HAD A NICE CHUMMY LUNCH right after she stepped down ---and then THEY BOTH made appearances at the BILDERBERG MEEETING ...which totally pissed me off...Hillary and Bill have always been thick with these one world order corporate elite thieves ...and it turns out that one of the BILDERBERG's biggest elites had taken Obama on as a personal 'pet project'.......sigh- somehow I totally missed that early on... but here again ---it is smart --if nothing else to snuggle up to these people
...OBAMA FLIP FLOPPING ON THE CAMPAIGN FINANCING IS GETTING STRANGE TOO...listening to the whole thing of www.democracynow.org as I write this and Amy is asking the right questions.
CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM - MY EYE! ...and CONgress just passed the FISA BULLSHIT AGAIN ----AND IT GETS WORSE AND WORSE!
....more positive proof that our USA GOVERNMENT IS THE BEST MONEY CAN BUY!
RON PAUL IS LOOKING BETTER AND BETTER ALL THE TIME AND HE IS NOT LIKED BY BILDERBERG - so I like him even more! haaaa!
....HOWEVER....I MUST KEEP IN MIND THAT NO ONE GETS PRESIDENT WITHOUT BILDERBERG [at least they haven't for over 40 years]... and I suppose I could try to keep the faith with a hope of "change" and pray that if he does take the white house ...that he will wash his hands of them then & not go along with the BILDERBERG agenda at that time.
I am starting to think just like I did w/Bush and Kerry [they were both Skull & Bones] and it made NO DIFFERENCE WHO is PRESIDENT [although the rigged voting machines clearly made that call again]....AS KERRY PROVED IT WHEN HE JUST DROPPED OUT ---AND WENT AGAINST HIS PLEDGE TO CHALLENGE THE COUNT AND NOT BOW OUT EASILY LIKE GORE DID [and made people think their votes would actually count for a change]....and as he gave in - he just dropped off the email circuit- the dem. press - and towed the BILDERBERG line.....heavy sigh.....
THE WAR DRUMS BEATING even HARDER AT IRAN ARE ALSO SHOWING ME THAT BILDERBERG DECIDED TO GO WITH WW3 AND A HIT ON IRAN [godhelpusall!]
...so now our 160,000 troops in IRAQ that will be sitting ducks are also to just become collateral damage too? as if the million+ dead isn't enough?
...Israel getting the green light to bomb Iran is INSANITY
...and that leaves us another accessory to even MORE WAR CRIMES [and probably more depleted uranium and wht phos. bombs and WMD supplied by the good ole USA - I am so ashamed!]
...Cheney is probably sharpening his teeth on all of this as the hippocracy never does bother him at all - the WAR ON TERROR - is really a WAR ON MANKIND AND OUR PLANET
...and meanwhile - the Israeli prime minister says they will Not 'talk with any terrorists' [talk about calling the kettle black here...does no one see what they are doing to Palestine, Syria, Lebanon?] www.justworldnews.com ...I think was the website mentioned that has one of the latest scoops on the middle eastern turmoil boiling even harder right now as I write this [did I mention I type faster than I think?]
ANOTHER NEWS FLASH - I ACTUALLY HEARD ON THE GLEN BECK RADIO SHOW WHILE DRIVING YESTERDAY - THAT A MAJOR SWISS[?] BANK RELEASED A PRESS STATEMENT WARNING TO THEIR SHAREHOLDERS THAT THE STOCK MARKET WILL CRASH IN THE NEXT 3 MONTHS [due to inflation they said]
... the reality of it all is - complete & total economic INTENTIONAL war on the middle class & NAFTA/CAFTA/mismanagement [and rampant corporate elite neocon greed promoting another created and highly profitable for the elites = depression-like situation here in the USA]
... instead of telling us they want to combine North America and go to the AMERO [like they did the EU & brought in the EURO] ...they APPARENTLY cannot resist the greed of it all and scooping up their remaining 'interests' at the expense of WE THE PEOPLE and the last threads of our democracy.
.... & the WAR PROFITEERS continuing to go FULL STEAM AHEAD ---WITH EVEN MORE recent CONgressional FUNDING OF THIS CURSID illegal WAR= Again defying the will of the majority of American people----it never ends].
...so I did the right thing by selling most all of my stock and buying silver last month...our COIN money is worth more than our PAPER MONEY as it is! [and South America is looking better all the time!]
...on the Iowa floods and the worldwide typhoons [etc.] ----these are NO ACCIDENT EITHER ....
CAN ANYONE SPELL H.A.A.R. P.? [why? more CONTROL of course!...in the world food supply and profits]
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLR_enUS277US277&q=H%2eA%2eA%2eR%2eP%2e+weather+machine
...does anyone remember China boasting about good weather for the Olympics? [since they also bought a H.A.A.R.P. apparently]
...watching the typhoon killing another several hundred thousand nearby there with almost no help getting to those people there [like Katrina] ...must be another depopulation thing....AS THE FLOODING MOVES DOWN THE MISSISSIPPI AND THE RAINS CONTINUE THROUGH THE REST OF THE 'BREAD BASKET' AS WELL ...all it would take now is a few well placed charges on a few hydro dams
...and then here we all are! A NATIONAL EMERGENCY [AND MARTIAL LAW] ....and can we all say FEMA CAMPS then too?
[and will I be marking my words about Bush and Cheney not intending to leave power?]
well...I hate acting like a girl ---but a tear can easily trace my face as I look out from Planetpam at the world - I understand - lots of all of this is just TOO MUCH!
So I will pound on Congress again this evening [to no avail -but it is the principle of these matters and the time I would waste here is more time hounding them right?]
...but as the thought of an air strike on Iran is starting to bring on tears of frustration again - I must go dig in the dirt and nurture my own soul right now...and water the additional 75 more tomato and pepper plants I just planted before dark last night & feed my chickens, Australian red claw crayfish and the slew of farm cats....and tend to my almonds, peaches, apples, cherries, plums, apricots, and pear trees that are LOADED with fruit this year again.
There is ONE HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME & THE BILDERBERGS, OUR CONgress of mostly CORRUPT POLITICIANS, AND THESE SOCIOPATH NEOCON ELITES THAT ARE RUNNING THE POWER SHOWS RIGHT NOW...
.....I have a soul [a very old soul]....AND THEY HAVE NO SOUL [as seen in Cheney's dark beady eyes for one glaring example]
...and I will mix my war paints & smoke to the 4 directions [and ask the Old Ones for some help]... and continue to pray for peace
ps/THERE IS SOME GOOD NEWS - THE REST OF THE billionaire POWER PLAYERS THAT ARE NOT WITH BILDERBERG HAVE ALSO HAD MEETINGS LATELY [I call them the Light workers]...and they are still FIGHTING THESE 'POWERS THAT BE' from within & from all around these elites [and they hopefully have a brilliant plan worked up!...cuz short of aliens intervening in a good way ...we are screwed without these Light Workers].
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I'm not sure about which theory you reference.
If the US radar system was spoofed that day, which it was, what sort of accurate conclusions can be made regarding that data? Precious little.
As for the Flight 77 thing, no matter how valid or not the radar data is, the Flight Data Recorder information acquired from NTSB has shown that the airplane the FDR was onboard was 400 feet in the air when it arrived at the Pentagon.
Point is, the evidence that is available does not support the official story. It contradicts it.
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Should we have developed a relationship of animosity as far as international relations against Saudi Arabia after 9/11 instead of going to war in Iraq?
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that was from Salon.com
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The Bush families long-standing friendship with the Saudi royal family has indeed been unsettling and given rise to a large part of the 9/11 conspiracy collection. It's creepy.
Joe Conason's Journal
The truth about how the White House helped the bin Laden family flee the U.S. finally comes out. Will the "liberal" press pay attention?
Sep 4, 2003 | Up, up, and away with Prince Bandar
Americans who want to understand an important aspect of what has gone wrong with the Bush "war on terrorism" must read Craig Unger's stunning investigative story in the October issue of Vanity Fair. He provides a definitive account of how members of the bin Laden family and relatives of the House of Saud were spirited out of the country on private aircraft during the days following the Sept. 11 attacks -- when almost all aviation was prohibited.
Boarding a series of flights that crisscrossed the country, from Florida to Kentucky to Los Angeles, Washington and Boston, they were permitted to leave on orders from the "highest level" of the United States government -- without any real interrogation or investigation by the FBI. As Unger points out, at least two bin Laden male kinsmen had been probed for connections with the U.S. branch of the World Association of Muslim Youth, a suspected terrorist front group.
Why were individuals connected with the prime suspect in the worst crime in American history allowed to leave the country so abruptly? Unger examines the role of Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the suave Saudi ambassador and longtime crony of the Bush family, who apparently used his influence to win the release of as many as 140 of his compatriots, including the bin Ladens.
Former National Security Council counterterror chief Richard Clarke says that the decision to let the Saudis leave was made with FBI approval. "I asked [the FBI] to make sure that no one inappropriate was leaving. I asked them if they had any objection to the entire event -- to Saudis leaving the country at a time when aircraft were banned from flying." But the FBI's spokesman on counterterrorism issues told Unger: "I can say unequivocally that the F.B.I. had no role in facilitating these flights one way or another."
Determining who is telling the truth about the fleeing Saudis isn't easy. With the sort of candor that has become its hallmark, the White House is still denying that any such flights ever occurred. That denial is simply exploded by Unger, who interviewed a former police officer hired to work security on the private jet that took several Saudis from Tampa, Fla., to Lexington, Ky. (where another group of Saudi royals had been buying horses).
With outrage that any American can share, Allan Gerson, an attorney for the 9/11 victim families who are suing the Saudi government and the bin Laden interests, wonders why some obvious questions weren't put to the passengers on those planes before they were released.
"They should have been asked whether they had contacts or knew of any other Saudi contacts with Osama bin Laden," said Gerson. "What did they know about the financing of al-Qaeda? What did they know about the use of charitable institutions in the U.S. and elsewhere as conduits for terrorism financing? Why was the Saudi government not responsive to U.S. pleas in 1999 and 2000 that they stop turning a blind eye to terrorist financing through Saudi banks and charities?" Yet as Dale Watson, the FBI's former counterterrorism chief admits, "They were identified, but they were not subject to serious interviews or interrogations."
Among the various explanations for this undue leniency, Unger examines certain ties that bind the Bush family to the bin Laden clan and the Saudi hierarchy. He writes: "Vanity Fair has learned that as senior adviser to the Carlyle Group, the gigantic private-equity firm, former president George H. W. Bush, who has long been a close friend of Prince Bandar, has played a key role in raising millions of dollars from Saudis for a Carlyle investment fund."
While Unger acknowledges that there may have been valid reasons of state to allow the Saudis to exit unmolested by law enforcement, he leaves the final comment to John L. Martin, former national security chief in the Justice Department. "What happened on September 11 was a horrific crime. It was an act of war. And the answer is no, this is not any way to go about investigating it."
Unger reveals much, much more -- and we shall see whether the "liberal" American media arouses itself to expand on his findings. So far, the first media outlet to pay any serious attention to the Vanity Fair article was the Edinburgh Evening News. (Yes, the city in Scotland.) But this morning, the New York Times suddenly appears interested, too.
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Founded in 1962 by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the Muslim World
League (MWL) is among the world?s largest Islamic charitable organizations, with
offices in more than thirty (30) countries. The MWL serves as an umbrella
organization for a number of other Islamic charities, commonly referred to as bodies or
members of the League, including the International Islamic Relief Organization, World
Assembly of Muslim Youth, al Haramain & al Aqsa Mosque Foundation, Benevolence
International Foundation and Rabita Trust, among others. MWL is an agency, instrumentality and organ of the Kingdom of Saudi
Arabia. The Kingdom controls and directs MWL operations, appoints and terminates
MWL personnel, provides the MWL with virtually all of its funding, determines how
funds will be distributed throughout the world, and otherwise stringently controls the
MWL?s operations. In many countries, MWL conducts operations from the local Saudi
embassy, under the supervision of the embassy?s Islamic Affairs Division.
Senior officials of the MWL have expressly acknowledged that the MWL
and its subsidiary bodies are agencies, instrumentalities and orgnas of the Kingdom of
Saudi Arabia.
During court proceedings in Minister of Citizenship and Immigration v.
Mahmoud Jaballah, Federal Court of Canada, Docket DES-6-99, an immigration
proceeding initiated against an employee of the International Islamic Relief Organization
based on his sponsorship of terrorist organizations, Arafat El Asahi, the director of the
International Islamic Relief Organization in Canada and a full time employee of the
Muslim World League, testified as follows:
Let me tell you one thing, the Muslim World League,
which is the mother of IIRO, is a fully government funded
organization. In other words, I work for the government of
Saudi Arabia. I am an employee of that government.
Second, the IIRO is the relief branch of that organization
which means that we are controlled in all of our activities and plans by the government of Saudi Arabia. Keep that in
mind, please ? I am paid by my organization which is
funded by the Saudi] government ? the [IIRO] office, like
any other office in the world, here or in the Muslim World
League, has to abide by the policy of the government of
Saudi Arabia. If anybody deviates from that, he would be
fired; he would not work at all with IIRO or with the
Muslim World League.
The MWL has long operated as a fully integrated component of al Qaida?s
financial and logistical infrastructure, and provided material support and resources to
al Qaida and affiliated FTOs.
source
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Edited by facedecoolo at 06/22/2008 7:09 PM PDT
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