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CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU, BARACK AND JOE!
YES WE DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WELCOME TO A BETTER WORLD!!!! In celebration, here's Aaron Copeland's "Fanfare for the Common Man": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u1X1f3Nxy8 *** And, of course, the President's Marine Band playing "Hail to the Chief": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC837oh98_Y *** Love and Hugs to All, Cleo  -- "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke "I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams." From "He Wishes for the Cloths of Heaven", W.B. Yeats
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 10:45 PM
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> .juxtaposed to Obama's
> > look of terror on the recognition that he'd
> just been
> > caught on camera doing the same....
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> Nervous guy in public, or just randy as hell during a
> mission with the Pope? Sharp insight on his MO,
> lugs!
>
> Course, he might well have temporarily blanked and
> believed he was at Hooters. This is also quite
> reasonable to expect, dontcha think? We're just damn
> lucky he didn't accidentally order onion rings for
> the table.
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> Edited by editor2 at 07/10/2009 12:35 PM PDT
Ed,
LOL, you are such a funny lady...lol
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 10:29 PM
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I've been on a retro-Elvis Costello kick recently; when I listened to this song for the first in more than ten years, I was struck by how poetically it sums up my disappointment with Barack Obama.
And so -- with regret -- I dedicate to the man I helped elect, an excerpt from Elvis Costello's Brilliant Mistake:
"He thought he was the King of America,
Where they pour Coca Cola just like vintage wine.
Now I try hard not to be hysterical,
But I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry.
I wish that I could push a button
And talk in the past and not the present tense;
And watch this hurting feeling disappear
Like it was common sense.
He was a fine idea at the time --
Now he's a brilliant mistake."
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 4:48 PM
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Cleo....
Sigh... Old womanish??? LMAO... One name Patrick Moynahan... ok, two.. Patrick Leahy..or three, Barney., no wait WAXMAN....
I just read an interesting article though, Ruth Bader seems to have thought, and then changed her mind according to a new interview with the NYT magazine, that the rationale for birth control and abortion was for population control of those populations we don't necessarily want. Sounds to me like Ruth has grown a couple....
Cheery weekend to all.
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 4:22 PM
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> the whole thing reminds me of the Curb your
> Enthusiasm episode (season 2 , I think) where Larry
> Keeps getting wrongfully accused of having a butt
> fetish
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Matty, Yeah. Or The Pants Tent! LOL
Eh, this doesn't deserve anything further. 
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HuffPo 7/10/09 - Barack Meets Pope Benedict XVI for First Time
Jul 10, 2009 4:08 PM
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Here's some news coverage of Barack's meeting with the Pope today and all that surrounded the occurrence.
And yes, Michelle and their daughters were there and met the Pope too.
Next stop, Ghana and Barack's vision for Africa speech.
Obama and pope meet for first time
By Victor L. Simpson
HuffPo
July 10, 2009
"VATICAN CITY ? President Barack Obama sat down with Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican on Friday for frank but constructive talks between two men who agree on helping the poor but disagree on abortion and stem cell research.
"It's a great honor," Obama said, greeting the pope and thanking him for this first meeting, which lasted 30 minutes. They sat down at the pontiff's desk in the Papal Library and exchanged pleasantries before the media were ushered out of the ornate room.
The pope was heard asking about the Group of Eight summit, the meeting of developed nations that concluded before Obama arrived at Vatican City. Obama said the meeting "was very productive."
Afterward, the Vatican said they discussed immigration, the Middle East peace process and aid to developing nations. But the Vatican's statement also underscored the pair's deep disagreement on abortion.
"In the course of their cordial exchanges, the conversation turned first of all to questions which are in the interest of all and which constitute a great challenge ... such as the defense and promotion of life and the right to abide by one's conscience," the statement said.
Even in his gift to the U.S. leader, the pope sought to communicate his beliefs. Benedict gave Obama a copy of a Vatican document on bioethics that hardened the church's opposition to using embryos for stem cell research, cloning and in-vitro fertilization. Obama supports stem cell research.
"Yes, this is what we had talked about," Obama said, telling the pope he would read it on the flight to Ghana.
Earlier, the pope's secretary, the Rev. Georg Ganswein, told reporters the document would "help the president better understand the position of the Catholic church."
Denis McDonough, a deputy national security aide to Obama, said the president looked forward to reading the document.
"They discussed a range of those issues and I think the president was eager to listen to the Holy Father," McDonough said aboard Air Force One as it flew Obama to Ghana. "He is eager to find common ground on these issues and to work aggressively to do that."
With some Catholic activists and American bishops outspoken in their criticism of Obama, even as polls have shown he received a majority of Catholic votes, the audience was much awaited.
Obama is very popular in Italy and hundreds of people lining the broad avenue leading to St. Peter's Square cheered his limousine as it went by. Obama waved.
Obama's election presented a challenge for the Vatican after eight years of common ground with President George W. Bush in opposing abortion, an issue that drew them together despite Vatican opposition to the war in Iraq.
But the Vatican has been openly interested in Obama's views and scheduled an unusual afternoon meeting to accommodate him at the end of his Italian stay for a G-8 summit in the earthquake-stricken city of L'Aquila and just before he left for Ghana.
In the tradition-conscious Vatican, most such meetings are held at midday. The Vatican also arranged live television coverage of the open session of the meeting after their private talks.
Benedict broke Vatican protocol the day after Obama was elected by sending a personal note of congratulations rather than waiting and sending the usual brief telegram on Inauguration Day.
"I've had a wonderful conversation with the pope over the phone right after the election," Obama told Catholic journalists in Washington before he left for Europe. "And in some ways we see this as a meeting with any other government _ the government of the Holy See. There are going to be some areas where we've got deep agreements; there are going to be some areas where we've got some disagreements."
But he acknowledged the pope is more than a government head, saying the church "has such profound influence worldwide and in our country."
L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican's daily newspaper, gave Obama a positive review after his first 100 days in office. In a front-page editorial, it said that even on ethical questions Obama hadn't confirmed the "radical" direction he discussed during the campaign.
Tensions grew when Obama was invited to receive an honorary degree at the leading U.S. Catholic university, Notre Dame. Dozens of U.S. bishops denounced the university and the local bishop boycotted the ceremony.
Former St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke, who now heads a Vatican tribunal, accused Obama of pursuing anti-life and antifamily agendas. He called it a "scandal" that Notre Dame had invited him to speak.
Yet L'Osservatore concluded that Obama was looking for some common ground with his speech, noting he asked Americans to work together to reduce the number of abortions.
Some conservative American Catholics criticized the Vatican newspaper for its accommodating stance.
This week, Cardinal Justin Rigali, who heads the U.S. bishops' Committee on Pro-Life Activities, complained that the final guidelines of the National Institutes of Health for human embryonic stem cell research are broader than the draft guidelines.
As a child in Indonesia, Obama's Muslim father enrolled him in Catholic school for a few years. Obama is a Protestant.
McDonough, the Obama national security aide, spoke to reporters Thursday about the influence of Catholic social teaching on Obama. He said the president "expresses many things that many Catholics recognize as fundamental to our teaching."
In the interview with Catholic journalists, Obama said he would tell the pope of his concern that the world financial crisis is not "borne disproportionally by the most poor and vulnerable countries."
Just this week, Benedict issued a major document calling for a new world financial order guided by ethics and the search for the common good, denouncing the profit-at-all-cost mentality blamed for the global financial meltdown.
As Obama has pledged to step-up efforts for Middle East peace through a two-state solution, Benedict made a similar appeal during a trip in May to Jordan, Israel and the Palestinian territories. He issued the Vatican's strongest call yet for a Palestinian state.
Obama met first with Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican's secretary of state, before meeting Benedict.
Obama's wife, Michelle, joined him at the end of the meeting, and gifts were exchanged. Daughters Malia and Sasha, who accompanied their parents on the trip, also met Benedict. They were ushered out of the room before the media were allowed back in."
Here's the link:
HuffPo 7/10/09 - V. Simpson - Obama and Pope Meet for First Time
A great afternoon and evening to all,
Cleo
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"I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams." From "He Wishes for the Cloths of Heaven", W.B. Yeats
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 3:48 PM
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> .juxtaposed to Obama's
> > look of terror on the recognition that he'd
> just been
> > caught on camera doing the same....
> Nervous guy in public, or just randy as hell during a
> mission with the Pope? Sharp insight on his MO!
>
> Course, he might well have temporarily blanked and
> believed he was at Hooters. This is also quite
> reasonable to expect, dontcha think? We're just damn
> lucky he didn't accidentally order onion rings for
> the table.
hey ed..
what funny to me is that President Obama may have just been looking at something in the general direction of the girl, his facial expression nonwithstanding...
I don't care much either way...if anything I like it that my president likes to check out some booty...
the whole thing reminds me of the Curb your Enthusiasm episode (season 2 , I think) where Larry Keeps getting wrongfully accused of having a butt fetish
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 3:34 PM
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.juxtaposed to Obama's
> look of terror on the recognition that he'd just been
> caught on camera doing the same....
Nervous guy in public, or just randy as hell during a mission with the Pope? Sharp insight on his MO, lugs!
Course, he might well have temporarily blanked and believed he was at Hooters. This is also quite reasonable to expect, dontcha think? We're just damn lucky he didn't accidentally order onion rings for the table.
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 3:21 PM
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> Cleo,
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> It's my nature to try to be fair. I'm not willing to
> demonize men for looking at women they're attracted
> to because then I'd have to stop looking at men I
> find attractive.
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> I don't see admiration as abuse, anyway.
Exactly my point too, Rainy.
We are inherently multifaceted creatures and it's perfectly lovely to have a President who demonstrates his perception thereof and shows his appreciation and admiration of our gender in oh so many ways!
Cleo
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"I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams." From "He Wishes for the Cloths of Heaven", W.B. Yeats
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 3:18 PM
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> Mat
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> har har 
hey Rainy
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 3:14 PM
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President Barack Obama promised Pope Benedict on Friday that he would do everything possible to reduce the number of abortions in the United States, the Vatican said.
Would you rather him to have said, "Abortions here, abortions there...abortions everywhere!!!"
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 3:13 PM
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Mat
har har
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 3:13 PM
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> > Oh, and what's up with Obama eyeballing the
> underage
> > 16 yo?????
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> Catch a clue Drudge.
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Pres Barry saw it as another stimulus package.
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 3:12 PM
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Cleo,
It's my nature to try to be fair. I'm not willing to demonize men for looking at women they're attracted to because then I'd have to stop looking at men I find attractive.
I don't see admiration as abuse, anyway.
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 3:11 PM
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> NEWS FLASH....
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> Reuters is reporting that Obama told Pope Benedict
> that he would "quote"
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> >President Barack Obama promised Pope Benedict on
> Friday that he would do everything possible to reduce
> the number of abortions in the United States, the
> Vatican said.
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> http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5693XC20
> 090710?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true
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> RuRohRaggie......
Luggy, grow up.
This is the first conversation you and I ever had on these boards and proof that you do not read a damned thing anyone tells you.
A little verbal Metroliner of mouthiness headed into the back end of the train ahead of you.
Barack Obama has gone on record from the very beginning in maintaining that he wants to start programs and initiate services that will discourage women from seeking abortions.
Mind you, these kinds of services cost money, which is where the GOP and its inherent hypocrisy redolent on this issue gets off.
As it does when it comes to providing a public welfare safety net to support all the children that would result from overturning Roe v. Wade.
This is a non-issue. And stop pretending to be clueless about Barack's stand on the issue because you heard it from me at least a YEAR ago!
Have a nice afternoon and weekend,
Cleo
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"I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams." From "He Wishes for the Cloths of Heaven", W.B. Yeats
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Re: Barack Hussein Obama, 44th President of the United States
Jul 10, 2009 3:03 PM
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I will add in anticipation of Luggy's possibly ragging me for the "unquestionably masculine" comment, that this does not disparage gay men in the least or their "masculinity" component as gauged in my opinion.
And I would come back with an assessment of assertedly masculne GOP lions like Tricky Dick Nixon, Ronnie Reagan, and Bush 41 and 43 as pathetically "old womanish" personnae.
And let's not forget the dickless Pillsbury Doughboys, Shooter Cheney, Newt the Newt, and Turdblossom Rove, and Mitch "The Chinless Wonder" McConnell, for instance.
Yes, indeed, the GOP has supplied plentiful examples of the sorts of men you wouldn't want your sons to grow up to emulate.
Yes, yes, yes, indeed.
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