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(48 of 48)
Nov 18, 2009 6:04 PM
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Just as in the days of Capone, violence can be traced back to its roots.
prohibition
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Nov 18, 2009 6:03 PM
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"This child has been exposed ( via movies and tv, video games ) to more violence on a daily basis in all its graphic detail than the whole of us experienced in all our growing years. Is it any wonder that children today are so enured and desensitized that the concept ( much less the appreciation) of the value of life means no more hesitation and remorse than we'd step on a bug."
I understand that, Jadvocate. I just dunno how much I totally accept that. I grew up on TV shows like "Combat!" and "Gunsmoke". Sure, not as graphically violent as what today's kids are exposed to but violent nonetheless.
There are lot of other factors involved, too. How many more kids today have less parental supervision (due to 2 working parents) than back in our day? And how many more kids are under prescribed medication these days?
Plenty of factors to consider...don't think we blame it all on media exposure.
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Nov 18, 2009 5:56 PM
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> This child has been exposed ( via movies and tv,
> video games ) to more violence on a daily basis in
> all its graphic detail than the whole of us
> experienced in all our growing years. Is it any
> wonder that children today are so enured and
> desensitized that the concept ( much less the
> appreciation) of the value of life means no more
> hesitation and remorse than we'd step on a bug.
The gunplay in Chicago is testimony. Thugs drive down the street and shoot automatic weapons at who they perceive to be their turf rivals. Usually someone's child or grandma winds up dead cause the assholes don't know how to shoot so they spray the whole block.
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Edited by solong2 at 11/18/2009 2:57 PM PST
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Nov 18, 2009 5:52 PM
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> > > The 15 year old girl who killed a 9 year
> old is
> > being
> > > tried as an adult. Tell me what you think
> of
> > that
> > > after reading the following.
> > >
> > > > >
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34016501/ns/us_news-crime_
>
> >
> > > and_courts/" target="_blank">Juvenile or Adult?
> >
> > I read the article and find it reprehensible
> that
> > they'r charging this girl as an adult. Yes, the
> crime
> > was heinous but 15 is still 15 (and please,
> none of
> > that "kids today are older than back in my
> day").
> >
> > What I truly found maddening was part of the
> > reasoning:
> >
> > "Beetem ruled that the slaying of Olten was
> vicious
> > and the state had no adequate facilities or
> services
> > to treat the teenage suspect if she were to
> remain in
> > the juvenile court system. "
>
> That's the part that got me too! Figure it out,
> assholes! Even if they have to put her in the nearest
> major city, there has to be a juvenile detention
> center someplace they can use. She was on medication
> for depression. Obviously there is something wrong
> with her if she committed this heinous crime. But,
> she is still only 15.
This child has been exposed ( via movies and tv, video games ) to more violence on a daily basis in all its graphic detail than the whole of us experienced in all our growing years. Is it any wonder that children today are so enured and desensitized that the concept ( much less the appreciation) of the value of life means no more hesitation and remorse than we'd step on a bug.
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Nov 18, 2009 5:33 PM
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Jadvocate,
The scenario may play itself out as you state. As long as the girl has wealthy parents who can hire a good lawyer. You have more faith on the system than I. I'm afraid they'll do little to get the help this girl needs and she'll end up lost in the adult system. Thereby, lost forever.
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This girl will no doubt be subjected to a battery of psychological exams to determine her mental age, deduct from her history what marking events have scarred her and re-charge her on lesser counts. As far as children being "older" today I disagree to a point. Most children ( even those living in broken homes and poverty) arent faced with the same set of social issues that we did in our day. Ever look at your parents high school album and remark on how old they looked back then. That process hasnt stopped.
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Nov 18, 2009 4:56 PM
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> > The 15 year old girl who killed a 9 year old is
> being
> > tried as an adult. Tell me what you think of
> that
> > after reading the following.
> >
> > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34016501/ns/us_news-crime_
>
> > and_courts/" target="_blank">Juvenile or Adult?
>
> I read the article and find it reprehensible that
> they'r charging this girl as an adult. Yes, the crime
> was heinous but 15 is still 15 (and please, none of
> that "kids today are older than back in my day").
>
> What I truly found maddening was part of the
> reasoning:
>
> "Beetem ruled that the slaying of Olten was vicious
> and the state had no adequate facilities or services
> to treat the teenage suspect if she were to remain in
> the juvenile court system. "
That's the part that got me too! Figure it out, assholes! Even if they have to put her in the nearest major city, there has to be a juvenile detention center someplace they can use. She was on medication for depression. Obviously there is something wrong with her if she committed this heinous crime. But, she is still only 15.
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Nov 18, 2009 4:53 PM
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> The 15 year old girl who killed a 9 year old is being
> tried as an adult. Tell me what you think of that
> after reading the following.
>
> Juvenile or Adult?
I read the article and find it reprehensible that they'r charging this girl as an adult. Yes, the crime was heinous but 15 is still 15 (and please, none of that "kids today are older than back in my day").
What I truly found maddening was part of the reasoning:
"Beetem ruled that the slaying of Olten was vicious and the state had no adequate facilities or services to treat the teenage suspect if she were to remain in the juvenile court system. "
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Nov 18, 2009 3:53 PM
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The 15 year old girl who killed a 9 year old is being tried as an adult. Tell me what you think of that after reading the following.
Juvenile or Adult?
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Nov 16, 2009 6:26 PM
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> I tell it like it is.
Obviously, you're not well-versed with the adage "discretion is the better part of valor".
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Nov 16, 2009 6:17 PM
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I tell it like it is.
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Nov 16, 2009 6:14 PM
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> > > Liberals probably have education and
> > > errr...rehabilitation in mind.
> >
> > I think that's only if they're Muslim.
> >
> > Body found. Very sad. 
>
> Ever here, amidst this very sad, tragic news, ya just
> have to get your dig in, dontcha Gladys? How pitiful.
Seriously.
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Nov 16, 2009 6:09 PM
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> > Liberals probably have education and
> > errr...rehabilitation in mind.
>
> I think that's only if they're Muslim.
>
> Body found. Very sad.
Ever here, amidst this very sad, tragic news, ya just have to get your dig in, dontcha Gladys? How pitiful.
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Nov 16, 2009 6:01 PM
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> Liberals probably have education and
> errr...rehabilitation in mind.
I think that's only if they're Muslim.
Body found. Very sad.
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Nov 16, 2009 5:59 PM
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> > > http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/11/16/article/
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> missing_girls_mom_accused_of_prostituting_5_year_old" target="_blank">D
>
> > id Mom Sell Missing 5 Year Old?
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> Now they are out looking for that little girl's body.
> This woman and her cohorts are the lowest form of
> f life on the face of the planet. I hope they are
> thrown into the roughest prison in their State and
> left to rot among the general population - I don't
> think they'll last too long.
>
> Too bad that hotel employee that spotted the man and
> little girl didn't intervene and question them, but
> most people try to mind their own business and I do
> not put any blame on him... still .... sometimes you
> just have to be nosy and butt in.....
Agree. I always do if something doesn't look right.
That's why they call me, Gladys.
One can't be too careful these days.
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