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President Barack Obama has long recognized the poor tactics used by the people associated with Fox News. They are incapable of reporting accurately and fairly on anything associated with the current administration. The GOP of today does not represent what a humane person should possess.
I predict the abrupt fall of the republican party and the failure of almost any candidate they elect to run.
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 28, 2009 2:09 PM
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Although everyone knows that every single Republican voted against the "Rape Clause" that's associated with working for the private sector, Republicans are also interested in privatizing the Health Industry.
May the Republicans Fall and the Democrats prosper.
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 23, 2009 12:26 AM
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Where I agree with Pence is-
> dismissing those concerns as an obscure view is what
> will get dems in trouble.
If the GOP is indeed being channeled in any meaningful way by these entertainers, who's in for trouble is not the Dems but the GOP. Voters don't like extremism (Beck and Limbaugh can be both not obscure and extremist). I don't imagine they galvanize all that much in the way of productive political action, as in voting (perhaps teabagging, granted). They were in full flower in fall 2008 and the Dems still managed a landslide.
I think they're capable of inducing violence, though, as effective media agitators. This would get us all in trouble.
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 22, 2009 11:29 PM
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> > GOP leader: Worries about Beck or Limbaugh
> hurting
> > party are mainstream media 'hogwash'
> >
> > By POLITICO staff
> > Updated: 10/22/2009 01:32:43 PM CDT
> >
> > The chairman of the House Republican Conference
> says
> > it's "hogwash" that GOP leaders are worried
> about
> > what Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the Tea
> Party
> > movement are doing to their party's image.
> >
> > POLICO reported in a separate story Thursday
> that
> > "many top Republicans are growing worried that
> the
> > party's chances for reversing its electoral
> routs of
> > 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the
> flamboyant
> > rhetoric and angry tone of conservative
> activists and
> > media personalities."
> >
> > But House Republican Conference Chairman Mike
> Pence,
> > R-Ind., says it's not so. "You know, the
> American
> > people cherish their freedom of speech and a
> free and
> > independent press. That's why I found this
> morning's
> > headlines so troubling," Pence said Thursday.
> "Goaded
> > on by a White House increasingly intolerant of
> > criticism, lately the national media has taken
> aim at
> > conservative commentators in radio and
> television.
> > Suggesting that they only speak for a small
> group of
> > activists and even suggesting in one report
> today
> > that Republicans in Washington are 'worried
> about
> > their electoral effect.'
> >
> > "Well, that's hogwash.
> >
> > "To suggest that men and women that are taking
> a
> > stand for fiscal discipline and traditional
> values in
> > the national debate today only speak for
> 'grassroots
> > activists' is absurd. As evidenced by the
> hundreds of
> > thousands that filled town hall meetings this
> summer
> > and the nearly a million Americans who gathered
> here
> > in Washington in September. Millions of
> Americans,
> > Republicans, Democrats and Independents are
> worried
> > about liberal social policies and runaway
> federal
> > spending, deficit and debt.
> >
> > "So to my friends in the so-called 'mainstream
> media'
> > I say, 'conservative talk show hosts may not
> speak
> > for everybody but they speak for more Americans
> than
> > you do.'"
> >
> > > http://www.twincities.com/politics/ci_13618454?source=
>
> > rss" target="_blank">link
>
>
> theres that debunked "nearly a million " figure
> again. if you think 75,000 is "nearly a million" let
> me be your accountant.
75,000 certainly isn't correct either- you'd make a terrible accountant. But the figure itself isn't all that important. Where I agree with Pence is- dismissing those concerns as an obscure view is what will get dems in trouble.
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 22, 2009 11:14 PM
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> GOP leader: Worries about Beck or Limbaugh hurting
> party are mainstream media 'hogwash'
>
> By POLITICO staff
> Updated: 10/22/2009 01:32:43 PM CDT
>
> The chairman of the House Republican Conference says
> it's "hogwash" that GOP leaders are worried about
> what Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the Tea Party
> movement are doing to their party's image.
>
> POLICO reported in a separate story Thursday that
> "many top Republicans are growing worried that the
> party's chances for reversing its electoral routs of
> 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant
> rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and
> media personalities."
>
> But House Republican Conference Chairman Mike Pence,
> R-Ind., says it's not so. "You know, the American
> people cherish their freedom of speech and a free and
> independent press. That's why I found this morning's
> headlines so troubling," Pence said Thursday. "Goaded
> on by a White House increasingly intolerant of
> criticism, lately the national media has taken aim at
> conservative commentators in radio and television.
> Suggesting that they only speak for a small group of
> activists and even suggesting in one report today
> that Republicans in Washington are 'worried about
> their electoral effect.'
>
> "Well, that's hogwash.
>
> "To suggest that men and women that are taking a
> stand for fiscal discipline and traditional values in
> the national debate today only speak for 'grassroots
> activists' is absurd. As evidenced by the hundreds of
> thousands that filled town hall meetings this summer
> and the nearly a million Americans who gathered here
> in Washington in September. Millions of Americans,
> Republicans, Democrats and Independents are worried
> about liberal social policies and runaway federal
> spending, deficit and debt.
>
> "So to my friends in the so-called 'mainstream media'
> I say, 'conservative talk show hosts may not speak
> for everybody but they speak for more Americans than
> you do.'"
>
> link
theres that debunked "nearly a million " figure again. if you think 75,000 is "nearly a million" let me be your accountant.
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 22, 2009 11:02 PM
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GOP leader: Worries about Beck or Limbaugh hurting party are mainstream media 'hogwash'
By POLITICO staff
Updated: 10/22/2009 01:32:43 PM CDT
The chairman of the House Republican Conference says it's "hogwash" that GOP leaders are worried about what Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the Tea Party movement are doing to their party's image.
POLICO reported in a separate story Thursday that "many top Republicans are growing worried that the party's chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities."
But House Republican Conference Chairman Mike Pence, R-Ind., says it's not so. "You know, the American people cherish their freedom of speech and a free and independent press. That's why I found this morning's headlines so troubling," Pence said Thursday. "Goaded on by a White House increasingly intolerant of criticism, lately the national media has taken aim at conservative commentators in radio and television. Suggesting that they only speak for a small group of activists and even suggesting in one report today that Republicans in Washington are 'worried about their electoral effect.'
"Well, that's hogwash.
"To suggest that men and women that are taking a stand for fiscal discipline and traditional values in the national debate today only speak for 'grassroots activists' is absurd. As evidenced by the hundreds of thousands that filled town hall meetings this summer and the nearly a million Americans who gathered here in Washington in September. Millions of Americans, Republicans, Democrats and Independents are worried about liberal social policies and runaway federal spending, deficit and debt.
"So to my friends in the so-called 'mainstream media' I say, 'conservative talk show hosts may not speak for everybody but they speak for more Americans than you do.'"
link
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 22, 2009 9:29 AM
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Jim VandeHei, Mike Allen Jim Vandehei, Mike Allen ? Thu Oct 22, 5:51 am ET
Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party?s chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities, according to interviews with GOP officials and operatives.
Congressional leaders talk in private of being boxed in by commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh ? figures who are wildly popular with the conservative base but wildly controversial among other parts of the electorate, and who have proven records of making life miserable for senators and House members critical of their views or influence.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20091022/pl_politico/28589
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 22, 2009 8:55 AM
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> > > Nicht sind Sie nicht verrückt!
> >
> > Haben Sie universelle Tastaturen in den Lagern
> > Umerziehung?
>
> Ja verwende ich einen On-Line-Übersetze
> r
ja, mein bruder , ich haben der ubersetzer.
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 22, 2009 8:49 AM
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>
> I predict the abrupt fall of the republican party
Isn't it Fall for everyone north of the equator?
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 22, 2009 6:32 AM
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The Republicans have a big credibility problem, but they have only themselves to blame for it.
Repubs have been on thin ice for a while, what with their dependence on using false flags to get so-called "values voters" (i.e. ignorant/stupid) to vote against their own best interests.
But now with FOXNEWS becoming even more of an unintentional self-parody (Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity, FOX and Friends), and the shrill voice of the Tea Bag Fascist/Racist movement turning Americans off- they have a big problem.
As RW Senator Lindsey Graham recently reminded a Town Hall packed with a howling mob of Birthers, the Republicans have become the party of "Angry old white men."
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 22, 2009 6:17 AM
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jaredp:
> There are independent research foundations which said
> that is what happened in 2008 after all. Basically
> they claimed republican opponents' attacks on McCain
> damaged him too much to recover by election time,
> rather than Obama out campaigning.
>
Whatever "independent research foundations" came to that conclusion are full of shit.
Numbers don't lie. McCain received about the same number of votes that Bush Jr. did in 2004.
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 22, 2009 4:16 AM
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I was looking online to see what "fucking interns" has to do with Alec Baldwin, as a) it seemed to be a major burn when Bill brought it up, and b) because I don't care to keep up with celebrity scandals/gossip, when I came across this article on the site NewsBusters, which got me thinking. Why is it that Republicans have to repeatedly use verbal insults to try to make Democrats look bad, but Democrats don't in order to make Republicans look bad? Oh that's right, because "Republican" is now a derogatory term.
Similarly, the article's author makes a point that "it takes a nincompoop like Alec Baldwin to" (I'll paraphrase) see the merits of the Republican party. Yes, I think it does take a nincompoop to see them. Also interesting that usually the Republicans who change sides are the smart ones, or at least the smart ones who have souls left.
On a sidenote, that website is just disturbing. They fling humor around in an imitation of the humor of shows like the Daily Show, but... with no facts. I was considering creating an account there to make my arguments where they'll see them, but I can only look at so many fallacious arguments before vomiting, and I can tell you, I feel a little sick right now.
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 21, 2009 11:27 PM
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Obama Quarterly Approval Average Slips Nine Points to 53%
Largest second- to third-quarter drop for an elected president
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ -- In Gallup Daily tracking that spans Barack Obama's third quarter in office (July 20 through Oct. 19), the president averaged a 53% job approval rating. That is down sharply from his prior quarterly averages, which were both above 60%.
In fact, the 9-point drop in the most recent quarter is the largest Gallup has ever measured for an elected president between the second and third quarters of his term, dating back to 1953. One president who was not elected to his first term -- Harry Truman -- had a 13-point drop between his second and third quarters in office in 1945 and 1946.
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 21, 2009 9:53 PM
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Ich bevorzuge babelfish.
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 21, 2009 9:49 PM
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> > Nicht sind Sie nicht verrückt!
>
> Haben Sie universelle Tastaturen in den Lagern
> Umerziehung?
Haben Sie universelle Tastaturen in der Gestapo-Zentrale?
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Re: The Fall of the Republican Party
Oct 21, 2009 9:43 PM
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> > Nicht sind Sie nicht verrückt!
>
> Haben Sie universelle Tastaturen in den Lagern
> Umerziehung?
Ja verwende ich einen On-Line-Übersetzer
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