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WASHINGTON - Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday. A teen who has been depressed at some point in the past year is more than twice as likely to have used marijuana as teens who have not reported being depressed ? 25 percent compared with 12 percent, said the report by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. "Marijuana is a more consequential substance of abuse than our culture has treated it in the last 20 years," said John Walters, director of the office. "This is not just youthful experimentation that they'll get over as we used to think in the past." Smoking marijuana can lead to more serious problems, Walters said in an interview. For example, using marijuana increases the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent, the report said. And teens who smoke pot at least once a month over a yearlong period are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts than nonusers, it said. The report also cited research that showed that teens who smoke marijuana when feeling depressed were more than twice as likely as their peers to abuse or become addicted to pot ? 8 percent compared with 3 percent. Experts who have worked with children say there's nothing harmless about marijuana. "I've seen many, many kids' lives negatively impacted and taken off track because of marijuana," said Elizabeth Stanley-Salazar, director of adolescent services for Phoenix House treatment centers in California. "It's somewhat Russian roulette. There are so many factors, emotional, psychological, biological. You can't predict the experimentation and how it will impact a kid." The drug control policy office analyzed about a dozen studies looking at marijuana use, including research by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. Overall, marijuana use among teens has decreased 25 percent since 2001, down to about 2.3 million kids who used pot at least once a month, the drug control office said. While the drop is encouraging, Walters appealed to parents to recognize signs of possible drug use and depression. "It's not something you look the other way about when your teen starts appearing careless about their grooming, withdrawing from the family, losing interest in daily activities," Walters said. "Find out what's wrong." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080509/ap_on_he_me/teens_drugs;_ylt=AgDz.6Q5O3M9qO_g7P1wsPCs0NUE -- In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. Galileo Galilei
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 11, 2008 12:16 AM
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> The statement I thought was interesting was, "
> The drug control policy office analyzed about a
> dozen studies looking at marijuana use,
> including research by the federal Centers for Disease
> Control and Prevention and the Substance Abuse and
> Mental Health Services Administration."
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> I would hazard a guess that you could choose a dozen
> studies about marijuana to prove just about anything
> you want.
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> You can also substitute the word "alcohol" or
> "anti-depressants" for "marijuana" in this study and
> you could prove about the same thing.
Exactly
Same old "fixed science" by the Bush admin
These fuckers dont conduct any study, or participate in any endeavor, unless the fix is already in
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 10, 2008 7:52 PM
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> Hey Lu,
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> Good to see you out and about 
Hey Rainy! Talk about something I know about, and I may show up.
This reminds me of the studies on pregnancy and caffeine. My kids are 3 years apart. With the first one, caffeine was a terrible no-no. With the second one, they had done studies to account for alcohol and tobacco use among the control group and figured out, caffeine wasn't so bad after all.
I'm saying, do a study that separates ADHD and ADD kids against kids without, and see how that goes.
We don't need big pharmaceutical to process it for us, hence, it has no benefits and is harmful. Kinda like those authritis meds a few years back. Remember them?
No one has ever died from smoking pot for a year.
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 10, 2008 3:29 PM
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> Please accept my appology while I remove my foot
> from
> my mouth. Lung cancer is showing reversing with pot
> smoking, Harvard studies are showing this. It made
> me laugh to think one can reverse cancer cells in the
> lung by smoking pot, how ironic.
No need for any apologies. Her lung cancer (and her brother's lung cancer, and her sister's lung cancer) were not smoking related. None of them smoked...except mom toward the end, and even then most of the time it was brownies not inhaled.
There's a very vile type of lung cancer that the professionals don't know dip about..this was that one. Sorry I'm so vague, lonnnng day and I'm pooped.
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 10, 2008 10:00 AM
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(singing)
Don't bogart that joint, my friend
All I want is a hit
Of course the feds say this. Gateway drug? Another fallacy. I have smoked pot for a very many years now and have never had the urge to do anything else. I have done acid twice and that is the only other drug I have tried. The only gate marijuana affiliates itself with is the one in your mind that stops open and free thought. Even the Beatles understood this. Their music is obvious as to when they started doing drugs. I mean, come on, they sing about tripping in a dead dogs eye, rofl.
Open your mind, free yourself, smoke a joint, it will be OK.
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 10, 2008 9:47 AM
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The feds say this?
The same feds who took us to Iraq?
Who believes a single word the feds say?
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 10, 2008 7:12 AM
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> Considering that this study came from the White House
> Office of National Drug Control Policy -- given that
> the Bush Admin has politicized and manipulated every
> single agency in ways that previous presidents never
> dreamed of, or dared to -- you can automatically
> assume that it's wall to wall lies and bullshit and
> manipulated "science" -- and that the results were
> also based largely on suppressed scientific findings
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> Edited by IntoTheMystic at 05/09/2008 10:09 PM PDT
The statement I thought was interesting was, "
The drug control policy office analyzed about a dozen studies looking at marijuana use, including research by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration."
I would hazard a guess that you could choose a dozen studies about marijuana to prove just about anything you want.
You can also substitute the word "alcohol" or "anti-depressants" for "marijuana" in this study and you could prove about the same thing.
Are we getting cynical?
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 10, 2008 1:04 AM
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Hey Lu,
Good to see you out and about
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 10, 2008 12:24 AM
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Considering that this study came from the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy -- given that the Bush Admin has politicized and manipulated every single agency in ways that previous presidents never dreamed of, or dared to -- you can automatically assume that it's wall to wall lies and bullshit and manipulated "science" -- and that the results were also based largely on suppressed scientific findings
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 9, 2008 9:43 PM
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You are absolutely correct. I didn't drink or smoke Cannabis until 2 years after I was diagnosed at 32 with bi-polar 7 years ago. I am completely off the deadly meds now, I would have never believed it possible.
Cannabis has been a savior for me. We have tons of facts and studies at 420magazine you can read if you really want to be informed. Bill may even know Rob, the owner, I have no clue.
This story blew my mind. Straight up lies, paid for by me and you
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 9, 2008 2:16 PM
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Rainy, I get the whole legality of it. Being an ex-truck driver, no one knows better then I the detriment that pot smoking can have on ones employment/career. However, the positives that I found from smoking pot justified me buying those clean out teas and such, which have never failed me. I hate the fear of being busted, I try to be as cautious as I can be, but for me, the benefits FAR out weigh the legalities of this. My father had a case of hiccups that lasted over 3 months. We learned marijuana is an excellent cure for the hiccups, so stoned he was, quite hiccuping he did. I figure it had more to do with holding ones breath, forcing the diaphragm to stop spasming, but who cares, I got stoned with my ol' boy, how cool is that, right??? lolol
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 9, 2008 2:11 PM
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"She died of lung cancer. She can't."
Please accept my appology while I remove my foot from my mouth. Lung cancer is showing reversing with pot smoking, Harvard studies are showing this. It made me laugh to think one can reverse cancer cells in the lung by smoking pot, how ironic.
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 9, 2008 2:00 PM
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Ok, this here is craziness. I want to know how many of these kids were taking Ritalin? Or some other mind control drug. I'm not saying there is no use for these types of meds, but they were over prescribed, imo.
I want to see the studies on the Ritalin generation.
And that personal grooming thing is unadulterated bull shit. I spent hours primping as a teenager, and I smoked pot as often as I could.
And Rainy, I don't think it kills motivation at all. It intensifies concentration, making one more interested in say, reading a book than playing football.
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 9, 2008 1:57 PM
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*cough cough* mmm, this thread smells good.
I pretty much ignore the AMA reports, the dangers of smoking weed are inherently obvious. I mean, you set a leaf on fire, you inhale, you quadruple your risk of lung cancer, it's not rocket science.
What I'm curious about is where all theses scientific reports are coming from. I mean, it's an illegal substance, they can't just round up a control group and hand out joints. they'd have to find people already using and measure them, but that would be inaccurate, since they'd have to look for predetermined signs of use to locate users for measuring.
I figure the mental health reports on weed usage are about as useful for measuring the emotional risks of weed as FBI profiling is for catching serial killers. They'll collect loads of data... but only on users that already fit the profile.
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
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thousands of studies have shown the price of gasoline, health care, food, clothing, utilities and other necessities constantly rising incongruent to wages is fucking depressing....for everyone!
think i'll hit a tube.
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Re: Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness
May 9, 2008 11:53 AM
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> "(Mom would never admit to it, lol. Nor would my
> big shot businessman brother that turned her on.)
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> She needs to...
She died of lung cancer. She can't.
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