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Everyone in the MSM is speculating as to why this happened today. That is why on this day. The only thing I can think of is Guy Fawkes day. I'm a big fan of graphic novels so it was already on my mind today. Any other ideas?
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Nov 26, 2009 8:51 AM
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I have heard nothing about "cop killer" bullets being used Jet. That would actually be a damn stupid ammo choice. However, assuming you're right, armor piercing bullets are AP because they keep their form and pierce cleanly. A nice clean hole would be the expectation.
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Just happened to catch a TV interview this morning with a young lady who was wounded at Hood.
One grazing cut across the top of her head, and 1 perfect circle entry wound in her left side back, pretty much on the shoulder blade. She showed her T-shirt she was wearing at the time. The exit wound was so small that there was barely any blood at all. A little odd that way.
An entry wound like that would have involved bones and organs, it would seem. She had no bandages, no arm sling. Nothing to indicate her torso had been pierced by what the media was calling "cop killer" bullets.
And the beat goes on....
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Nov 25, 2009 1:26 PM
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> what can be said about this tragedy is this.:
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> If this was an act of terrorism as opposed to a loopy
> cunt going oobatz then we can no longer say that bush
> kept us safe after 9/11 in light of the Virginia Tech
> shootings.
Or the anthrax attacks for that matter.
Edit: Apparently now Perino isnt considering 9/11 either. Gaff? I think not.
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I don't see that there was any political motive or benefit for anyone.
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Nov 25, 2009 11:58 AM
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PBJ,
We aren't addressing what I either do, or do not think. I am asking you what the VT tech shooter's political motivation for shooting up the campus was. If he had one, then, I'd say that he could be construed as a terrorist. We could just as easily lump the John Malvo guy in with this conversation. I think it shows a contrast between a guy who simply decided to lash out vs one who decided to terrorize the DC metro area by hunting folks at gas stations.
Which, again, is also different that a guy who decides that it's Allah's will to waste a room full of deploying soldiers. You don't feel the threat in the Hasan case because it wouldn't have effected you. But what if the guy had shot up the Luby's in town. Would that have changed your mind? What if instead of hand guns the guys used an improvised bomb. Would that make it any easier for you?
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Nov 25, 2009 11:42 AM
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> PBJ
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> Just askin, but what political goal was the VT
> shooter trying to accomplish?
irrelevant . if it walks like a duck its a terriss. seriously , you dont think the VT shooter's goal was to terrorize , wreak havoc and magnify some aim? regardless of motivation the results go hand in hand with hasan's.
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PBJ
Just askin, but what political goal was the VT shooter trying to accomplish?
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Nov 25, 2009 10:35 AM
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what can be said about this tragedy is this.:
If this was an act of terrorism as opposed to a loopy cunt going oobatz then we can no longer say that bush kept us safe after 9/11 in light of the Virginia Tech shootings.
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> Federal investigators have found that Hasan donated
> $20,000 to $30,000 a year to overseas Islamic
> "charities." As an Army major, his yearly salary,
> including housing and food allowances, was
> approximately $92,000. A number of Islamic charities
> have been identified by U.S. authorities as conduits
> to terror groups.
1/3 of his salary, is that it? What kind of fanatic is he? Musta needed to keep a little around for the scrippas.
Edit: Army FAIL
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"BTW, when I was in high school we had a calculator
> that had tubes in it.
Really? This coming from the guy that called me an old fogey because I could remember the lyrics to a Foghat song?"
Never said I wasn't.
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So much for the emails not throwing up red flags........
Major Hasan's E-Mail: 'I Can't Wait to Join You' in Afterlife
ABC news
By BRIAN ROSS and RHONDA SCHWARTZ
Nov. 19, 2009
United States Army Major Nidal Hasan told a radical cleric considered by authorities to be an al-Qaeda recruiter, "I can't wait to join you" in the afterlife, according to an American official with top secret access to 18 e-mails exchanged between Hasan and the cleric, Anwar al Awlaki, over a six month period between Dec. 2008 and June 2009.
"It sounds like code words," said Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, a military analyst at the Center for Advanced Defense Studies. "That he's actually either offering himself up or that he's already crossed that line in his own mind."
Other messages include questions, the official with access to the e-mails said, that include when is jihad appropriate, and whether it is permissible if there are innocents killed in a suicide attack.
"Hasan told Awlaki he couldn't wait to join him in the discussions they would having over non-alcoholic wine in the afterlife," the official said.
Major Hasan also wrote, "My strength is my financial capabilities."
Federal investigators have found that Hasan donated $20,000 to $30,000 a year to overseas Islamic "charities." As an Army major, his yearly salary, including housing and food allowances, was approximately $92,000. A number of Islamic charities have been identified by U.S. authorities as conduits to terror groups.
Two FBI task forces, in Washington and San Diego, received the intercepted messages, but deemed them innocent.
On Capitol Hill today, Senators questioned how that could be.
"The choice of this recipient of emails says a lot about what Hasan was looking for," said Senator Joseph Lieberman, chair of the Senate's Homeland Security committee. Lieberman's committee held a hearing on the Fort Hood shootings, and announced that it was launching an investigation.
"What I'm getting at," said Lieberman, "Is he may have been looking for spiritual sanctions for what he's accused of ultimately doing."
The American-born Awlaki is considered a recruiter for al-Qaeda. He has been in hiding since the shooting, but a Yemeni journalist told ABC News today that the e-mails show Hasan was "almost a member of al-Qaeda."
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Regarding your statement about Constitutional requirements, consider the first sentence of Amendment 6, then get back to me.
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> I wasn't responding to your post (3058), with mine (3135).
So what?
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Little known fact: Who has the biggest counter-terrorism project, with more Arabic translators than the CIA or FBI, agents the world over, the world's largest trained anti-terrorism task force and literally thousands of trained troops as backup to the main task force, who all literally train daily for years and with an exceptional record of stopping terrorists at home and abroad since 9/11?
NYPD. They're out for blood and aren't about to let it happen again. There probably isn't a better place to hold the trial in the world. Certainly not a kangaroo court at Gitmo, further challenging constitutionality and providing fodder for terrorist recruiters.
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So people are irrational cowards who don't want to hold it in NYC where the big secure and experienced facilities are, but can't give a good reason why. Boo hoo.
Unless you've got something better than that I'm dismissing your objection as baseless.
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Seems to your point.
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> Controversy? Tough shit. Meet the Constitution.
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> The question is not whether there will be
> controversy. The question is who is causing it and
> why?
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> Having this trial in NY is a terrible idea. This
> mistake will create a tremendous amount of
> controversy- something the O team doesn't need right
> about now. An avoidable distraction.
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I wasn't responding to your post (3058), with mine (3135).
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