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The Irish Holocaust & its Cover-up Honorable Irish people everywhere are commemorating Ireland's Holocaust of 1845-1850 by learning the truth. Only dupes of British propaganda still refer to "The Irish Famine," as nobody died of lack of potatoes; but over five million Irish Catholics died of starvation or of mal nutrition -induced diseases. British troops removed their meats, grains, dairy products, etc. No Protestant starved in Ireland Britain didn't target them. Over 6 Million Irish ''disappeared'' !!!!!!!!! But, the German government repented and paid $100 billion (dollars) reparations to Jews while the British government and its Dublin surrogates still use terror and slander against those who commemorate the Irish Holocaust. It is still dangerous - after 150 years - to reveal the truth !!! http://www.irishholocaust.org/tollofholocaust
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Jul 7, 2008 6:51 PM
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'Tis true, 'tis true, Shannon O'Shamrock.
PTSD. That's a great point. Genocide, coffin ships, famine walls as a public works project for a bowl of soup until the money ran out, it's amazing anybody was lucky enough to make it out of there. And once they got here it was more grueling day-to-day hardships. The whole ordeal is beyond imagining.
Thanks for bringing this topic to forum and keeping our history alive. I can't resist repeating how important it is to talk about everything, no matter what, and using the proper words to describe the experience.
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Jul 7, 2008 2:33 PM
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> And that was the risk, I suppose, contaminating
> children with hatred could have turned victims into
> victimizers for generations, and may have been why
> most families just let it be and didn't discuss it.
Well there is that and the fact that in generations past not talking about things was the way it was done.
PTSD did not start with Vietnam, but it was widely recognized somewhere around that time that not talking about it didn't make it go away.
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Jul 7, 2008 12:12 PM
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We had a large Irish Catholic settlement here (tho many have left the Catholic part behind) it took decades to accomplish, but about 10 years ago an Irish memorial was finally unveiled.
Yes, it's important to remember, and use the right words that tell the factual story.
There was a blight, but not a famine had Protestant landowners not exported vast and plentiful quantities of food.
Deliberate actions by one group aimed at wiping out another group is genocide. Holocaust literally means burnt offering or sacrifice, but after the Nazi extermination of the Jews it has come into a larger meaning to describe the massive genocide of millions of people.
The oral history in my family was carefully constructed in a way that wouldn't demonize Irish Protestants or the British, or any group, bcz this was America where things were different. Even after one subsequent generation was wiped out financially along with all the other Catholics in the town by what I came to learn later was an Irish/British/Scottish/Welsh Protestant KKK, thru oral history and by example I learned there was far more joy in being kind-hearted and generous, and that hatred and prejudice was something people felt because they didn't know any better.
And that was the risk, I suppose, contaminating children with hatred could have turned victims into victimizers for generations, and may have been why most families just let it be and didn't discuss it.
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Jul 7, 2008 10:44 AM
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Those Irish !!!!!!
The ''Wild Geese'' ????
The fighting Irish fought all over Europe & the US !!!!
Sometimes even on opposite sides ?????
Barry Linden ?? Best movie !!!!
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Jul 7, 2008 10:05 AM
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> Shannon O'Shamrock whoever you are sounds like you
> are a potato eater to me & you will be surely welcome
> in Donnygall !!!
Yep, definitely a lover of the potato am I, and thanks!
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> Those paddies really got '' shafted'' by the British
> and the Catholic Church !!!!
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> Many took the ''king's shilling'' and under that
> Irishman the Great Duke of Wellington made up the
> ''mainstay'' of the British Army.
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> But the Irish spirit undaunted survived and
> contributed to the well being of the World around the
> World !!!
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> It is interesting to see how little known the Irish
> Holocaust is even in Ireland and how it is better
> known as ''The Famine'' as if it just happened as the
> result of the failure of the potato !!!!!
Quite interesting. I am a believer in "those who do no remember the past are doomed to repeat it".
With 34 million people of Irish ancestry residing in the U.S., there are more of us here than in Ireland. Yet most people born, raised, and educated in the latter half of the 20th century know almost nothing about the history that brought us here, or what our families endured once they arrived.
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Jul 6, 2008 8:56 AM
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Gzndhyt
You are so right !!!!
These DaNihilist Fox TV types !!!!
I wonder if someone like DaNihilist was walking down the street and all of a sudden got punched in the face !!!!!!!
Would he/she just accept the assault & move on ???
What if he/she objected to the injury and was told
'' what's done is done move on , look to the future don't lets dwell on the past --- moron !!!!
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Re: Anyone ever heard about the Irish Holocaust ????
Jul 6, 2008 8:34 AM
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In America, signs on the doors of many establishment read:
No Dogs or Irishmen
Irish Catholics were targets of the KKK.
> Dead are
> dead, past is past. Can you say Darfur? Address
> what you can change, not what you can't.
Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler are dead, too. Should we ignore their vicious crimes and just move on? Jews keep their holocaust history alive so it doesn't happen to anyone ever again.
There was plenty of food in Ireland, it was just all being exported for financial gain. Sound familiar? Can you say corn for ethanol?
Perhaps we wouldn't have to say Darfur, and there wouldn't be global food riots today had the greatest blight in European history been acknowledged, cruelties exposed, consequences dealt on par with Nuremberg, and universal prevention measures taken.
Money over human life. The American 'health care' system that dispenses neither health nor care is another fine example of man's inhumanity to man.
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Jul 5, 2008 8:35 PM
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Clicked on the link and went no further. Whether or not I agree, you'll get no further here. Dead are dead, past is past. Can you say Darfur? Address what you can change, not what you can't.
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Jul 5, 2008 7:48 PM
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Yeah, but what's the point?
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Jul 5, 2008 6:07 PM
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Shannon O'Shamrock whoever you are sounds like you are a potato eater to me & you will be surely welcome in Donnygall !!!
Those paddies really got '' shafted'' by the British and the Catholic Church !!!!
Many took the ''king's shilling'' and under that Irishman the Great Duke of Wellington made up the ''mainstay'' of the British Army.
But the Irish spirit undaunted survived and contributed to the well being of the World around the World !!!
It is interesting to see how little known the Irish Holocaust is even in Ireland and how it is better known as ''The Famine'' as if it just happened as the result of the failure of the potato !!!!!
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Re: Anyone ever heard about the Irish Holocaust ????
Jul 5, 2008 2:07 PM
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Thanks fellow posters. 
For Rainy -
By the 1800s, the potato had become the staple crop in the poorest regions. More than three million Irish peasants subsisted solely on the vegetable which is rich in protein, carbohydrates, minerals, and vitamins such as riboflavin, niacin and Vitamin C. It is possible to stay healthy on a diet of potatoes alone. The Irish often drank a little buttermilk with their meal and sometimes used salt, cabbage, and fish as seasoning. Irish peasants were actually healthier than peasants in England or Europe where bread, far less nutritious, was the staple food.
See, like I said, good stuff the potato.
For the full story (although the numbers don't correspond with the original post link, it's fairly educational) -
http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/famine/introduction.htm
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Jul 5, 2008 12:17 PM
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> This is a new topic for me. I haven't studied it at
> all. I always wondered why they didn't eat fish
> instead of potatoes (not meaning that in a
> disrespectful way, just curious)
Good question. Many answers. Rivers, streams and beaches were picked clean. Very few Catholics had fishing boats or nets or baits or supplies to use for fishing, and the few who did sold what little they had in exchange for food. My family oral history told of high famine walls erected by private Protestant concerns to keep Catholics out of the fishing areas. Keep in mind that most Catholics were dirt poor tenant farmers who lived hand to mouth on potatoes.
Why wasn't fishing a solution during the famine years?...
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/famfish.html
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Jul 5, 2008 12:16 PM
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Yes it is.
> 'tis a beautiful name, Shannon O'Shamrock! 
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Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance Albert Einstein
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Jul 5, 2008 11:39 AM
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'tis a beautiful name, Shannon O'Shamrock!
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