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I support Senator Barack Obama for the nomination for POTUS and here's why:
A CNN spinmeister asked after the last debate whether Hillary Clinton was running for the "Greatest Health and Human Services Director" in history or for President.
We need a paradigm change in national politics or the Democrats face another polarized electorate and election. It's time to say goodbye to the politics of the Sixties and the sad songs sung to support them.
We also have to let go of our hatred of crossover appeal and nominate someone who can draw to our side independents plus old line Republican voters, i.e., those who are fiscally conservative, albeit fraternalistically inclined to reinvigorate the economy to support the flailing working and middle economic classes, and socially progressive as well.
As I've said here before, I believe Barack Obama has that appeal and is the human embodiment of "throw the bums out". He has stated a desire and intention of unseating the power brokers, lobbyists, beaurocrats and beaurocracies that have hamstrung and stifled change in our government.
If you recall, Hillary was tongue tied in one debate at the suggestion that she would employ no lobbyists in the WH - remember that her brother is one!
If you don't believe the phenomenon of entrenchment exists and will ossify to solidification with 36 years of Clinton-Bush, look at the ineffectiveness of the Democratic Congress that was elected with such high hopes for a new direction, hopes now thoroughly dashed.
And, Obama has the strongest credentials to withstand "flip-flopper" charges and GOP talking points on national security and the War in Iraq.
Moreover, with Senator Jim Webb of Virginia, a Viet Nam vet and former Secretary of the Navy whose son has served in Iraq, as Obama's running mate in November, we'll have a domestic and national security policy team that can get us over the hump in electoral college votes and avoid another four years of wondering whether yet a third straight election had been stolen from us.
Now for the intangibles that have hamstrung Hillary along the way. In the last debate, I'm wondering how many human subconsciouses registered that Barack Obama is pragmatic, has a great sense of humor, is relaxed, and most important of all, exhibited wonderful warmth and the ability to shut up and listen as others talked.
And here, I rest my case for Barack.
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Re: Why I'm For Senator Barack Obama
Jul 24, 2008 11:45 PM
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I hope You White people are watching that show Black in America on CNN especially the show about the Black Man. Be open, Learn about us.
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Re: Why I'm For Senator Barack Obama
Jul 24, 2008 11:15 PM
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I hope the World attacks Amerikkka, if he gets assassinated.
-Wishes for a real America
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Re: Why I'm For Senator Barack Obama
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Great speech. But I'm still not voting for him.
Senators make lousy frickin presidents. And I don't like McCain that much either.
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Text of Senator Obama's Speech Delivered in Berlin, July 24, 2008
Jul 24, 2008 4:03 PM
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WOW! What a nice surprise to click on Drudge and find a link to the text of Barack's speech in Berlin today posted on the masthead of his site!
Is Matt becoming a centrist? We report. You decide.
BARACK OBAMA BERLIN SPEECH: 'A WORLD THAT STANDS AS ONE'
Drudge Report Masthead
July 24, 2008
"Thank you to the citizens of Berlin and to the people of Germany. Let me thank Chancellor Merkel and Foreign Minister Steinmeier for welcoming me earlier today. Thank you Mayor Wowereit, the Berlin Senate, the police, and most of all thank you for this welcome.
I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before. Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen -- a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.
I know that I don't look like the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city. The journey that led me here is improbable. My mother was born in the heartland of America, but my father grew up herding goats in Kenya. His father -- my grandfather -- was a cook, a domestic servant to the British.
At the height of the Cold War, my father decided, like so many others in the forgotten corners of the world, that his yearning -- his dream -- required the freedom and opportunity promised by the West. And so he wrote letter after letter to universities all across America until somebody, somewhere answered his prayer for a better life.
That is why I'm here. And you are here because you too know that yearning. This city, of all cities, knows the dream of freedom. And you know that the only reason we stand here tonight is because men and women from both of our nations came together to work, and struggle, and sacrifice for that better life.
Ours is a partnership that truly began sixty years ago this summer, on the day when the first American plane touched down at Templehof.
On that day, much of this continent still lay in ruin. The rubble of this city had yet to be built into a wall. The Soviet shadow had swept across Eastern Europe, while in the West, America, Britain, and France took stock of their losses, and pondered how the world might be remade.
This is where the two sides met. And on the twenty-fourth of June, 1948, the Communists chose to blockade the western part of the city. They cut off food and supplies to more than two million Germans in an effort to extinguish the last flame of freedom in Berlin.
The size of our forces was no match for the much larger Soviet Army. And yet retreat would have allowed Communism to march across Europe. Where the last war had ended, another World War could have easily begun. All that stood in the way was Berlin.
And that's when the airlift began -- when the largest and most unlikely rescue in history brought food and hope to the people of this city.
The odds were stacked against success. In the winter, a heavy fog filled the sky above, and many planes were forced to turn back without dropping off the needed supplies. The streets where we stand were filled with hungry families who had no comfort from the cold.
But in the darkest hours, the people of Berlin kept the flame of hope burning. The people of Berlin refused to give up. And on one fall day, hundreds of thousands of Berliners came here, to the Tiergarten, and heard the city's mayor implore the world not to give up on freedom.
"There is only one possibility," he said. "For us to stand together united until this battle is won. The people of Berlin have spoken. We have done our duty, and we will keep on doing our duty. People of the world: now do your duty. People of the world, look at Berlin!"
People of the world -- look at Berlin!
Look at Berlin, where Germans and Americans learned to work together and trust each other less than three years after facing each other on the field of battle.
Look at Berlin, where the determination of a people met the generosity of the Marshall Plan and created a German miracle; where a victory over tyranny gave rise to NATO, the greatest alliance ever formed to defend our common security.
Look at Berlin, where the bullet holes in the buildings and the somber stones and pillars near the Brandenburg Gate insist that we never forget our common humanity.
People of the world -- look at Berlin, where a wall came down, a continent came together, and history proved that there is no challenge too great for a world that stands as one.
Sixty years after the airlift, we are called upon again. History has led us to a new crossroad, with new promise and new peril. When you, the German people, tore down that wall -- a wall that divided East and West; freedom and tyranny; fear and hope -- walls came tumbling down around the world. From Kiev to Cape Town, prison camps were closed, and the doors of democracy were opened.
Markets opened too, and the spread of information and technology reduced barriers to opportunity and prosperity. While the 20th century taught us that we share a common destiny, the 21st has revealed a world more intertwined than at any time in human history.
The fall of the Berlin Wall brought new hope. But that very closeness has given rise to new dangers -- dangers that cannot be contained within the borders of a country or by the distance of an ocean.
The terrorists of September 11th plotted in Hamburg and trained in Kandahar and Karachi before killing thousands from all over the globe on American soil.
As we speak, cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic, and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya.
Poorly secured nuclear material in the former Soviet Union, or secrets from a scientist in Pakistan could help build a bomb that detonates in Paris. The poppies in Afghanistan become the heroin in Berlin. The poverty and violence in Somalia breeds the terror of tomorrow. The genocide in Darfur shames the conscience of us all.
In this new world, such dangerous currents have swept along faster than our efforts to contain them. That is why we cannot afford to be divided. No one nation, no matter how large or powerful, can defeat such challenges alone.
None of us can deny these threats, or escape responsibility in meeting them. Yet, in the absence of Soviet tanks and a terrible wall, it has become easy to forget this truth. And if we're honest with each other, we know that sometimes, on both sides of the Atlantic, we have drifted apart, and forgotten our shared destiny.
In Europe, the view that America is part of what has gone wrong in our world, rather than a force to help make it right, has become all too common. In America, there are voices that deride and deny the importance of Europe's role in our security and our future.
Both views miss the truth -- that Europeans today are bearing new burdens and taking more responsibility in critical parts of the world; and that just as American bases built in the last century still help to defend the security of this continent, so does our country still sacrifice greatly for freedom around the globe.
Yes, there have been differences between America and Europe. No doubt, there will be differences in the future. But the burdens of global citizenship continue to bind us together. A change of leadership in Washington will not lift this burden. In this new century, Americans and Europeans alike will be required to do more -- not less.
Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity.
That is why the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another. The walls between old allies on either side of the Atlantic cannot stand. The walls between the countries with the most and those with the least cannot stand. The walls between races and tribes; natives and immigrants; Christian and Muslim and Jew cannot stand. These now are the walls we must tear down.
We know they have fallen before. After centuries of strife, the people of Europe have formed a Union of promise and prosperity. Here, at the base of a column built to mark victory in war, we meet in the center of a Europe at peace. Not only have walls come down in Berlin, but they have come down in Belfast, where Protestant and Catholic found a way to live together; in the Balkans, where our Atlantic alliance ended wars and brought savage war criminals to justice; and in South Africa, where the struggle of a courageous people defeated apartheid.
So history reminds us that walls can be torn down. But the task is never easy. True partnership and true progress requires constant work and sustained sacrifice. They require sharing the burdens of development and diplomacy; of progress and peace. They require allies who will listen to each other, learn from each other and, most of all, trust each other.
That is why America cannot turn inward. That is why Europe cannot turn inward. America has no better partner than Europe. Now is the time to build new bridges across the globe as strong as the one that bound us across the Atlantic.
Now is the time to join together, through constant cooperation, strong institutions, shared sacrifice, and a global commitment to progress, to meet the challenges of the 21st century. It was this spirit that led airlift planes to appear in the sky above our heads, and people to assemble where we stand today. And this is the moment when our nations -- and all nations -- must summon that spirit anew.
This is the moment when we must defeat terror and dry up the well of extremism that supports it. This threat is real and we cannot shrink from our responsibility to combat it. If we could create NATO to face down the Soviet Union, we can join in a new and global partnership to dismantle the networks that have struck in Madrid and Amman; in London and Bali; in Washington and New York.
If we could win a battle of ideas against the communists, we can stand with the vast majority of Muslims who reject the extremism that leads to hate instead of hope.
This is the moment when we must renew our resolve to rout the terrorists who threaten our security in Afghanistan, and the traffickers who sell drugs on your streets. No one welcomes war. I recognize the enormous difficulties in Afghanistan.
But my country and yours have a stake in seeing that NATO's first mission beyond Europe's borders is a success.
For the people of Afghanistan, and for our shared security, the work must be done. America cannot do this alone. The Afghan people need our troops and your troops; our support and your support to defeat the Taliban and al Qaeda, to develop their economy, and to help them rebuild their nation. We have too much at stake to turn back now.
This is the moment when we must renew the goal of a world without nuclear weapons. The two superpowers that faced each other across the wall of this city came too close too often to destroying all we have built and all that we love. With that wall gone, we need not stand idly by and watch the further spread of the deadly atom. It is time to secure all loose nuclear materials; to stop the spread of nuclear weapons; and to reduce the arsenals from another era.
This is the moment to begin the work of seeking the peace of a world without nuclear weapons.
This is the moment when every nation in Europe must have the chance to choose its own tomorrow free from the shadows of yesterday. In this century, we need a strong European Union that deepens the security and prosperity of this continent, while extending a hand abroad. In this century -- in this city of all cities -- we must reject the Cold War mind-set of the past, and resolve to work with Russia when we can, to stand up for our values when we must, and to seek a partnership that extends across this entire continent.
This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets have created, and share its benefits more equitably. Trade has been a cornerstone of our growth and global development. But we will not be able to sustain this growth if it favors the few, and not the many. Together, we must forge trade that truly rewards the work that creates wealth, with meaningful protections for our people and our planet. This is the moment for trade that is free and fair for all.
This is the moment we must help answer the call for a new dawn in the Middle East. My country must stand with yours and with Europe in sending a direct message to Iran that it must abandon its nuclear ambitions.
We must support the Lebanese who have marched and bled for democracy, and the Israelis and Palestinians who seek a secure and lasting peace. And despite past differences, this is the moment when the world should support the millions of Iraqis who seek to rebuild their lives, even as we pass responsibility to the Iraqi government and finally bring this war to a close.
This is the moment when we must come together to save this planet. Let us resolve that we will not leave our children a world where the oceans rise and famine spreads and terrible storms devastate our lands. Let us resolve that all nations -- including my own -- will act with the same seriousness of purpose as has your nation, and reduce the carbon we send into our atmosphere. This is the moment to give our children back their future. This is the moment to stand as one.
And this is the moment when we must give hope to those left behind in a globalized world. We must remember that the Cold War born in this city was not a battle for land or treasure. Sixty years ago, the planes that flew over Berlin did not drop bombs; instead they delivered food, and coal, and candy to grateful children.
And in that show of solidarity, those pilots won more than a military victory. They won hearts and minds; love and loyalty and trust -- not just from the people in this city, but from all those who heard the story of what they did here.
Now the world will watch and remember what we do here -- what we do with this moment. Will we extend our hand to the people in the forgotten corners of this world who yearn for lives marked by dignity and opportunity; by security and justice? Will we lift the child in Bangladesh from poverty, shelter the refugee in Chad, and banish the scourge of AIDS in our time?
Will we stand for the human rights of the dissident in Burma, the blogger in Iran, or the voter in Zimbabwe? Will we give meaning to the words "never again" in Darfur?
Will we acknowledge that there is no more powerful example than the one each of our nations projects to the world? Will we reject torture and stand for the rule of law? Will we welcome immigrants from different lands, and shun discrimination against those who don't look like us or worship like we do, and keep the promise of equality and opportunity for all of our people?
People of Berlin -- people of the world -- this is our moment. This is our time.
I know my country has not perfected itself. At times, we've struggled to keep the promise of liberty and equality for all of our people. We've made our share of mistakes, and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions.
But I also know how much I love America. I know that for more than two centuries, we have strived -- at great cost and great sacrifice -- to form a more perfect union; to seek, with other nations, a more hopeful world. Our allegiance has never been to any particular tribe or kingdom -- indeed, every language is spoken in our country; every culture has left its imprint on ours; every point of view is expressed in our public squares.
What has always united us -- what has always driven our people; what drew my father to America's shores -- is a set of ideals that speak to aspirations shared by all people: that we can live free from fear and free from want; that we can speak our minds and assemble with whomever we choose and worship as we please.
Those are the aspirations that joined the fates of all nations in this city. Those aspirations are bigger than anything that drives us apart. It is because of those aspirations that the airlift began. It is because of those aspirations that all free people -- everywhere -- became citizens of Berlin. It is in pursuit of those aspirations that a new generation -- our generation -- must make our mark on history.
People of Berlin -- and people of the world -- the scale of our challenge is great. The road ahead will be long. But I come before you to say that we are heirs to a struggle for freedom. We are a people of improbable hope. Let us build on our common history, and seize our common destiny, and once again engage in that noble struggle to bring justice and peace to our world."
Here's the link:
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm
A great evening to all!
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"I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams." From "He Wishes for the Cloths of Heaven", W.B. Yeats
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Re: Der Spiegel: The Superstar Has Landed
Jul 24, 2008 3:03 PM
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Thanks so much nutin!!!
Sounds like a great occasion and can't wait to see it!
Will be most happy to share my thoughts on the speech and really appreciate hearing yours!
Have a great evening!
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Re: Der Spiegel: The Superstar Has Landed
Jul 24, 2008 2:14 PM
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Great speech, as usual And I don't believe he had a teleprompter!
His speech was not long, but he managed to cover a lot.
The overall theme was global citizenship; how we all have to do our part to help those in dire straits and work together to rid the entire world of terrorism and nuclear arms (including us ). The speech in its entirety should be found on c-span.org at a later time today ( I watched the entire speech from that site).
Now, I have to get to back to work
Tell me what you think of the speech Cleo; I always like your insights and comments on these matters. Enjoy your day!
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Re: Der Spiegel: The Superstar Has Landed
Jul 24, 2008 1:15 PM
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Nutin!!!!
You are soooooooooooooo lucky!!! I'm stuck here hoping there will be a complete replay tonight on cable!!!
Hope you'll blog it for us and let us know how it goes!!
And talk about the other great music they're playing too!
Thanks for that in advance and have a great day!
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Re: Der Spiegel: The Superstar Has Landed
Jul 24, 2008 1:11 PM
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The crowd at the square is huge! Just finished listening and watching people dancing to a little David Bowie, "let's dance"
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Der Spiegel: The Superstar Has Landed
Jul 24, 2008 11:42 AM
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Here's a report on what's happening from Der Spiegel in the heart of Berlin.
The speech should be televised on the cable news networks around 1:00 p.m. - not sure whether I'll be able to get home to watch it or not. For those of you who are able to see it, I look forward to seeing your posts here telling the rest of us all about it!
THE CAMPAIGN COMES TO BERLIN
Obama Calls for Greater European Role in War on Terror
The superstar has landed. US Senator Barack Obama has now met with Germany's chancellor, its foreign minister and Berlin's mayor. Enormous crowds are gathering as the presidential candidate prepares to address them.
"Germany meets the Superstar: US presidential candidate Barack Obama stands facing the Reichstag in Berlin.
Would he drive to the Chancellery in a motorcade or would he take a helicopter for his visit to Chancellor Angela Merkel? Obama's charter jet had barely touched down at Berlin's Tegel Airport, and reporters were already asking the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate how he planned to get around the city.
Then he stepped into a sedan -- part of a long motorcade, accompanied by US security vehicles and German police -- and began the journey to downtown Berlin, with hundreds of fans standing by as he made his way.
Obama briefly greeted a crowd assembled on the street before disappearing into the Chancellery. As she greeted the presidential candidate, Merkel said she was hoping to have a good conversation with Obama.
The talks between the German leader and Obama lasted for about an hour, and the pair reportedly discussed climate protection, global trade and German-American relations. Just after 12 p.m., the Illinois senator and his entourage traveled about a half a mile further to the Adlon Hotel near the Brandenburg Gate before a afternoon meeting planned with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier of the Social Democrats.
Obama finally arrived at the Foreign Ministry a little after 2 p.m. and emerged almost an hour later. Immediately following the meeting, Steinmeier announced: "The atmosphere was open and trusting.
We built on our telephone conversation from mid-April." Steinmeier said he detected parallels in their philosophy of foreign policy. "Cooperation instead of confrontation -- that is also his foreign policy aim," adding that it had been a good conversation.
Following his meeting with Steinmeier, Obama met with Berlin Mayor Klaus Wowereit for 20 minutes in his hotel.
The two discussed the US elections, integration in Germany and the city's economy. According to the German news agency DDP, Wowereit gave Obama a porcelain bear -- the symbol of the city -- as a gift, and Obama signed the city guest book, thanking the mayor and city officials for "this open-hearted welcome" and calling the city "a symbol for the victory of hope over fear."
At 7 p.m., Obama plans to give a major address on trans-Atlantic relations at the Siegesäule, or Victory Column, in Berlin's Tiergarten park. The speech is the only one Obama is holding during his one week tour of Afghanistan, Iraq, the Middle East and European capitals. By late afternoon, crowds had already begun converging on the site to wait for his speech.
According to Obama's advisors, the candidate is expected to call on Europeans to increase their role in the war on terror. Obama is expected to ratchet up its efforts in that campaign, an advisor told Reuters. Obama has already announced that he plans to send more US troops to Afghanistan. He is also expecting greater contributions from America's NATO allies in Europe.
In an interview published earlier this week in SPIEGEL, Obama foreign policy advisor Susan Rice called on NATO to increase its troops and "to the greatest extent possible" to "lift operational restrictions." Though Rice did not mention Germany specifically, Berlin has drawn criticism in the US and Canada for refusing to send troops into the hotly contested southern part of the country where the Taliban insurgency has grown in strength.
Instead Germany's armed forces, the Bundeswehr, are restricted to peacekeeping and rebuilding in the relatively safe northern part of the country.
Merkel and Steinmeier have both pointed out that Germany is already doing a considerable amount in Afghanistan and other crisis regions. They have reminded Obama that Germany plans to increase its mandate in Afghanistan by an additional 1,000 soldiers this autumn, bringing the total figure to about 4,500. Recently, Germany also took command of a Quick Reaction Force, which is expected to deploy in crisis situations.
In Tel Aviv on Wednesday, the last stop on his trip before traveling to Germany, Obama said he did not intend to hold a stump speech in Berlin. The 46-year-old said, "The people in the crowd will not be voters."
Before arriving in Berlin, Obama told reporters accompanying him on the campaign jet that he hoped the speech "will be viewed as a substantive articulation of the relationship I would like to see between the United States and Europe" and that it would "communicate across the Atlantic the value of that relationship and how we need to build on that," according to the AP.
When asked how his speech might have symbolic values like those of US presidents who gave famous speeches in Berlin in the past, Obama answered: "They were presidents, I am a citizen. But obviously Berlin is representative of the extraordinary success of the post-World War II effort to bring the continent together ... so I think it is a natural place to talk about."
Initially Obama wanted to hold his speech at the Brandenburg Gate, but the proposal drew widespread criticism in Germany. Given its charged history, Chancellor Merkel said, through a spokesperson, she thought the choice had been "odd." And even today, criticism continues about the hubris of holding a speech on such a grand scale when he hasn't even been elected president yet.
"If a person who hasn't even been nominated as the official candidate is allowed to hold an address like an elected president, then one has to ask the question: What's going to happen if a truly elected president (like Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan demands the same?"
Peter Ramsauer, the head of Bavaria's Christian Social Union party, told the Schwäbische Zeitung newspaper. "Are we allowing Germany's great sights to become stages for the American election?" He said he would have expected "better instincts on the part of Obama's campaign managers."
Others were less dismissive. Former German President Richard von Weizsäcker told the mass-circulation Bild newspaper he hoped the speech could help create a new dynamic in the trans-Atlantic partnership.
Meanwhile, speaking to public broadcaster ARD, former US Ambassador to Germany John Kornblum called for a little more sobriety in the debate over Obama. He said it would be best if Obama sought to avoid the kind of striking statements made by US presidents who have spoken in Berlin in the past.
"Friendliness isn't everything," he said. "We have many very serious problems in the world," and Obama will lay out some basic conditions for Europe. "He is going to expect something from the Germans," the former ambassador said. But Kornblum said he also expected a US government under a possible president Obama to more accessible and more willing to come to the negotiating table than the Bush administration has been.
Karsten Voigt, the German government's coordinator for German-US relations, offered similar comments in an interview with Südwestrundfunk public radio on Thursday morning.
He noted that the Americans expect more help from Europe in crisis-solving -- in the Balkans or in Afghanistan, for example. Words might be firm during the campaign, but once the dust settles, he said, "the Americans will come to the Germans and say, we want to consult more deeply with you. But they of course are also going to do this because they want to unload some of their burdens."
Meanwhile, the foreign policy spokesman for Chancellor Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats, Eckart von Klaeden, told RBB-Inforadio public radio he didn't share the expectation of many German politicians that there would be a major shift in foreign policy under Obama.
"Regardless whether it is a President McCain or a President Obama, people will quickly determine that the trans-Atlantic relationship will not be transformed to the degree that many are expecting."
Here's the link:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,567804,00.html
Have a great day - and enjoy the speech if you're able to see it!
Cleo
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"I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams." From "He Wishes for the Cloths of Heaven", W.B. Yeats
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Jul 23, 2008 12:32 PM
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> The first national survey to come out since Obama
> left on his international tour will be released
> tonight at 6:30 by NBC News and the Wall Street
> Journal. Of course if there is the start of a bump,
> some of it could be from the the Maliki thing. I
> won't hold my breath, as the next data set might
> truly better tell the tale.
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> standard of living for the masses of the people if
> only government is intelligent and energetic... (FDR,
> '37)
Thanks for the heads up, RC - I'll be watching and looking forward to discussing the results here tomorrow!
Have a great day!
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"I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams." From "He Wishes for the Cloths of Heaven", W.B. Yeats
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Jul 23, 2008 12:09 PM
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The first national survey to come out since Obama left on his international tour will be released tonight at 6:30 by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal. Of course if there is the start of a bump, some of it could be from the the Maliki thing. I won't hold my breath, as the next data set might truly better tell the tale.
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Jul 23, 2008 10:04 AM
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Nutin-
Very insightful comment!
> Cleo & Rapid,
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> With all the media talk about Bill Clinton and Jesse
> Jackson blurting out their true colors as they see
> their popularity overshadowed by the leadership of
> someone (Obama) from the "next generation", people
> like Andrea Mitchell, Lou Dobbs and others are also
> feeling their irrelevancy with media circles. It's
> amazing how they can report on the Bill and Jesse
> outbursts and not see it in themselves when they have
> similiar outbursts.
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> Maybe reading a little Eckhart Tolle could help
> Andrea and Lou become more aware of how they are
> letting their egos dictate what they say
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> Edited by nutinbutanumber at 07/23/2008 6:43 AM PDT
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Re: Watch Out for MSM Semantics Betraying Its Vested Interest In Existing Power
Jul 23, 2008 9:43 AM
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Cleo & Rapid,
With all the media talk about Bill Clinton and Jesse Jackson blurting out their true colors as they see their popularity overshadowed by the leadership of someone (Obama) from the "next generation", people like Andrea Mitchell, Lou Dobbs and others are also feeling their irrelevancy with media circles. It's amazing how they can report on the Bill and Jesse outbursts and not see it in themselves when they have similiar outbursts.
Maybe reading a little Eckhart Tolle could help Andrea and Lou become more aware of how they are letting their egos dictate what they say
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Edited by nutinbutanumber at 07/23/2008 6:43 AM PDT
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Re: Watch Out for MSM Semantics Betraying Its Vested Interest In Existing Power
Jul 23, 2008 9:38 AM
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> > I'd watch Andrea Mitchell's semantics as well -
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> It?s soooo enjoyable when the Professional
> Journalistic Persons get in a huff when they aren?t
> paid what they consider their proper obeisance. How
> dare Obama talk to the public, or play basketball
> without us to lend authenticity! Hey, if Obama hits
> a three pointer without the press around did he still
> hit it? We?ll have to bloviate on MSNBC for hours to
> repair the damage. If there's anyone that knows fake
> interviews, it is Andrea Mitchell, she is a terrible
> journalist.
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> Only in the bizarro world of GOP politics is the
> recession imaginary while Saddam's WMDs are real.
Chuckling now at all the D.C. sacred cows that will be lowing out in the pasture as the changes we're anticipating so happily come to pass.
The shocked looks on McCain's face when treated like a mere mortal; Billygoat's shaking his finger and growing all red-faced at "impertinent" questions and railing against Obama's rising star along with his fellow geezer, Jesse Jackson; Hillary's "needing a moment" to recover from her loss in the primaries; and Mitchell's shameless lying about Obama to make herself look important - all are wonderful examples of how establishment figures generally react to a changing of the guard.
Puts me in mind of the old geezers of the '50's futilely railing against Rock & Roll, university presidents of the 60's and '70's quitting their jobs over having to deal with student protests, the hard hats of the '70's ranting against bra burners and anti-war protestors; and secretaries of mine saying "wha?" to the change from typewriters to computers.
And how the GOP captured the hearts and minds of those who would move the clock back and restore an American pastoral myth that met its death not long after Adams and Jefferson did.
Well, they're finally being told once and for all that the horse and buggy are no more, the earth is round and women and minorities, both here and abroad have souls and a right to simple justice.
And can become President of the United States.
Cleo
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Re: Watch Out for MSM Semantics Betraying Its Vested Interest In Existing Power
Jul 23, 2008 9:10 AM
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> I'd watch Andrea Mitchell's semantics as well -
It?s soooo enjoyable when the Professional Journalistic Persons get in a huff when they aren?t paid what they consider their proper obeisance. How dare Obama talk to the public, or play basketball without us to lend authenticity! Hey, if Obama hits a three pointer without the press around did he still hit it? We?ll have to bloviate on MSNBC for hours to repair the damage. If there's anyone that knows fake interviews, it is Andrea Mitchell, she is a terrible journalist.
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Only in the bizarro world of GOP politics is the recession imaginary while Saddam's WMDs are real.
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