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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 8:54 PM
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yeah my loose nut on my key board lock tite ready ta rock, thanks for ask'n darl'n...
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 8:53 PM
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Divorce is a beautiful thing. I'm for it...lol
What that article failed to point out was that the woman involved had her own mind, reasons for seeking counseling and getting a divorce, her own choice of who she dated and remarried afterwards. It was fairly disrespectful of her personhood to write the article as though she were a bag of rocks to be held by one man and stolen by another.
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 8:48 PM
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hi fingerdig,
Are you doing ok computer wise, hon?
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 8:46 PM
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well nestmess couples committing goddamed adultry seem to have the divorce rate at 50 per cent guess thats nothing to all kids now living in goddamed broken dysfunctional homes. not even mentioning all ghetto fathers that didn't marry mothers that birthed out of wed lock, and all goddamed fathers not paying support guess thats nothing too......
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 8:46 PM
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Nemeses,
Do you know if Delmer remarried as well? I hope so, doesn't he sound like a nice man?
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 8:32 PM
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Frigerdig......
besides what is breaking a commandment anyway......
absolutely nothing.......
right.........
right......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U1TmyCewZk
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 6:14 PM
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yeah exactly wtf I'm saying with negative assumption bias the way article written , they wasn't there at time for one thing, so some jerks pissed off cause he pissed his wife off and didn't want to go back to him. Hell being he couldn't get along with her seems selfish bastard be thankfull if he really loved her that she found somebody she could get along with, most folks noses to damed big and arogant to be discussing other peoples private affairs they know little of the real truth about, some think hillary clintons screchs signifys she knows whats shes doing as many of her past yes voted indicates she don't. DUH
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 6:06 PM
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Frigerdig.......
yes I do.........
so are you saying the New York Post.....
is prejudice and bigoted....
and/or the writers of the article are too........
or what is it you are trying to say......
IF IT QUACKS LIKE A DUCK AND WALKS LIKE A DUCK IT MUST BE A DUCK
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 5:57 PM
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hey nestmess do you also believe all catholic priests are pedphiles and molest alter boys, you do know meanings of terms prejuduice and bigotted don't you nestmess.....
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 5:47 PM
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What kind of Person is Reverend Wright?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05042008/news/nationalnews/baracks_rev__stole_a_wife_109298.htm?page=0
May 4, 2008 -- The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama's loose cannon of a spiritual adviser, stole the wife of a parishioner - after the man sought Wright's help in saving his troubled marriage, the former husband told friends.
Delmer Reed, 59, confided to pals that he believed the minister moved in on his wife while Wright was counseling the couple at his Chicago church in the early 1980s, The Post has learned.
"That's exactly how he said it," Reed's divorce lawyer, Roosevelt Thomas, told The Post.
"It looks like Delmer might have been right," he said, because after Delmer and Ramah Reed were divorced, she got remarried - to Wright. "Either that or this was the biggest coincidence in the world."
Asked about the relationship between Wright and his ex-wife, Reed told The Post, "Oh, the things I could tell you."
Initially, he didn't believe the rumors.
"People were telling me that my extremely attractive wife was seen with the pastor," Reed said. "But I didn't believe it. I thought, 'So what?' "
Was he wrong in the end?
"Well, yeah," he said.
Asked if Wright broke up his marriage, Reed laughed, then said, "I told my kids I wouldn't say anything to hurt their stepfather, so I'm not saying anything."
But he said he's been hounded by the press and "offered money" to tell his story.
A spokesman for the Wright family flatly denied the allegation yesterday.
"This story has no merit whatsoever and is not based on facts," said George Lofton. "They had problems throughout the course of their turbulent marriage, and the couple never received marriage counseling from Rev. Wright or anyone else."
But Reed, a former investigator for the Illinois secretary of state, told The Post he and his ex-wife went to Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ for counseling when their marriage hit the skids over his demanding work schedule.
"I spoke with [Wright] four times over a few months," Reed said in an interview at his upscale home in Lemont, Ill.
"Her father asked me to go to counseling. We thought we'd be together forever. I decided to try to work this out."
Asked if he's forgiven the pastor, Reed nodded.
"I let it go," he said. "I don't want my kids to hear anything negative about their stepfather."
He added: "I'm not a vindictive person; I'm a forgiving man."
But years ago, Reed did express anger about the situation, said Harold Davis, who said he learned about the matter through mutual friends.
"Jeremiah knew all the weaknesses of the couple, and he started focusing on the wife, her vulnerabilities, and started doing things she wanted Delmer to do - spending time with her, taking her to the movies, that sort of thing," said Davis, who heads the Chicago branch of football great Jim Brown's Amer-I-can youth program.
"Everybody knew Jeremiah took the man's wife," said Davis. "It was common knowledge."
The Reeds, longtime sweethearts who grew up on the same block on Chicago's South Side, have two children, Nikol, 30, and Nathan, 27. The couple got married in 1975 and split in 1982. Their divorce was final in 1983.
Ramah, 59, married Wright, 66, six years after she divorced Reed, although she and the reverend were a couple for years before getting hitched. They remain together and have a daughter, Jamila, 13.
Wright, who divorced his wife, Janet, in 1978, has two adult children from his first marriage.
Reed said his wife served him with divorce papers in 1982 in an arrangement they worked out together. The grounds were "extreme mental cruelty."
"We agreed that she would say anything she wanted to say to get a divorce," Reed said.
"When I saw the words, I thought, 'Was this necessary?' But I decided [to] let her do what she had to do. I was innocent. I was a good boy. It was amicable. We were sitting arm in arm when we signed the divorce papers."
Obama has severed all ties to Wright, but his former adviser continues to be a nightmarish problem for his campaign. The fiery minister, under fire for his racially and politically charged sermons, has toured the country defending his views and claiming Obama has distanced himself for political reasons.
Activist Derrick Mosley, a self-styled minister who has clashed with Wright, said there's an "unwritten rule" that pastors don't counsel married couples separately - as Wright did with Ramah Reed, he said.
In 2003, Mosley said, "I called him on the carpet about the indecorous manner in which he'd obtained his wife."
In response, said Mosley, "he ranted and raved from the pulpit. He got up and announced, 'If Derrick Mosley is in the building, I want you all to arrest him.' "
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BARACK'S REV. 'STOLE A WIFE'
EX-HUBBY: HE COUNSELED US, THEN WED HER
By SUSANNAH CAHALAN and VERONICA HINKE in Chicago and BRAD HAMILTON in New York
FUROR: Fire-breathing Chicago pastor Jeremiah Wright (left) reportedly met his wife Ramah (right) after he counseled her and then-husband Delmer Reed in 1983. The Reeds divorced soon after the sessions.
FUROR: Fire-breathing Chicago pastor Jeremiah Wright (left) reportedly met his wife Ramah (right) after he counseled her and then-husband Delmer Reed in 1983. The Reeds divorced soon after the sessions.
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 11:32 AM
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whats matter, some moron reading my posts must be pissed off just tried to attack my computer with a virius in free speech america imagine that.....
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 10:07 AM
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right brain thinkers are more creatvie cause they have learned to accept idealogy is concept in fact doesn't coeherhently work in reality, or individuals realized long ago treating persons with different lifestyles as second class citizens is just plain wrong. left side brain is logic, right side application to dealing with life creativity, as there is nothing to evolve if something is not first created, as if at first the bush clintons had of created nafta with foresight and protection of our way of of life to be no need to evovle it,
to remove tariffs and give corporations access to tax breaks meaning the middle class helped pay for the loss's they recieved as jobs went overseas.
yet the clinton bush admin members of past think they are best abled to fix the bush clinton nafta cafta policys they wrote and voted yes to and declared political victories, yet you wonder why so many say vote all bums out.
those that think lot of middle aged an elderly are not for obame might wanta try pollling a more acurate section of america as those that are educaited to the facts are for obama.
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 1:37 AM
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Has Africa been the very worst AIDS infected of all the countries? I know it's a terrible problem in the black American community, especially for women.
The nations of the African Continent or African Union are hard hit with AIDS. India is a another red herring ready to explode in terms of AIDS. Not just the ecomony in India is one of the fastest growing on Earth, the AIDS rate also. Russia and the Central European nations are also being hit hard with new AIDS cases. China is suspected to be in the process of a 1980's American style epidemic over there. Of course, the Chinese government uses underinflated statistics in counting the cases. The estimates of actual cases are 10 times higher than Chinese government estimates are.
However, some reasarchrs are looking at Red People (Native Indigenous peoples of the Americas) for a possible cure. They have the lowest rates of infections to population size and poverty rates, and scientists are wondering if a lot of them have a natural immune blocker to AIDS.
Also, there are some babies who are being born to infected mothers in Africa who are born with the disease, and there are actually some of them who are completely flat out immune to the disease.
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 5, 2008 1:25 AM
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hi Smokefreak,
Thanks for explaining, hon. It's confusing because didn't they always say the first AIDS patient was a gay male flight attendant who got it in Africa, came home, had many lovers and spread it to the gay community in America that way?
Or maybe that's since been debunked....
The gay french Cnaadian flight attendant that had liasons in Africa was "Patient Zero." Not Patient Zero literally, but figureratively. He was the first comfirmed case of AIDS, not the actual first AIDS patient.
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Re: Jeremiah Wright Q&A 4/28/08
May 4, 2008 11:25 PM
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Has Africa been the very worst AIDS infected of all the countries? I know it's a terrible problem in the black American community, especially for women.
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