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Everyone calls him a freak. Well he is only as freaky as this culture.
I remember when MTV would not play his videos. I remember when MTV would not play any Black videos. Yes, liberal MTV and this was in the 80s, not the 60s. Michael Jackson was a scarred individul moreso than most IMHO because he grew up in the public eye and therefore was rejected in some way or another because of his being black every day of his life. Shit, I remember when you had to watch BET to see a MJ video or any black videos for that matter (hence the reason why BET was developed, it rivaled MTV). I remember when MJ was not allowed to be pop because black people could only be R&B.
Think about it, what made him rejectable?
Answer:
1. His thick lips
2. his wide nose
3. his dark skin
4. his nappy hair
What did Michael Jackson change?
Answer:
1. his thick lips
2. his wide nose
3. his dark skin
4. his nappy hair
It aint rocket science. I am not saying I would make the changes if I were in his situation. I am simply saying he did and I understand why even if I would never do it. Michael Jackson hated being black because this country hated him being black.
I feel sorry that he couldnt hold onto his appearance becasue America has changed racially for the better. It seems like black people cant stay off of MTV now. But when Michael jackson was coming up, as late as the 1980s, that was an entirely different story.
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
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> Don't get me wrong, a parent can have an powerful
> influence on a child. MJ, for some odd reason, never
> grew up.
I think it's because MJ never HAD a childhood! He was thrust in the spotlight from the time he could walk and talk. When he DID become an adult, he could then afford the childhood ANY kid would dream of. By the time he could have/afford/experience a childhood, it was creepy by that point.
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 9:32 PM
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> > if goldblum had died my watch would have stopped
> or
> > my power go out ...didnt happen
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> Sorry darlin'...it did happen! It was on the
> internet! I don't give a shit that Goldblum appeared
> on Colbert's show to prove it wrong! I read it on
> the "internets", therefore it HAS to be TRUE! LOL
LOL!!!! My mom calls for EVERY little thing she finds on the internet! You wouldn't believe some of the crazy things I've heard from her over the years and it always starts the same......"You won't guess what I just read on the computer...." lol
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 9:30 PM
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I forgot he was Black...
He was a Lovely,
White Woman.
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 8:57 PM
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PureUncut:
I remember when MTV would not play his videos. I remember when MTV would not play any Black videos. Yes, liberal MTV and this was in the 80s, not the 60s. Michael Jackson was a scarred individul moreso than most IMHO because he grew up in the public eye and therefore was rejected in some way or another because of his being black every day of his life. Shit, I remember when you had to watch BET to see a MJ video or any black videos for that matter (hence the reason why BET was developed, it rivaled MTV). I remember when MJ was not allowed to be pop because black people could only be R&B.
You don't remember right.
MTV didn't play Black music because they wanted a rock/pop mix and Blacks didn't record anything but Disco and R&B at the time (with Rap just starting).
I have no doubt that Jimi or Lenny Kravitz would have received air time. It was all about what audience MTV wanted for its advertisers. In fact, when MTV went Hip Hop, much of its white audience disapeared.
MJ purposely made rock style music to break in, but MTV's rejection of R&B was not racist. It was business.
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 8:41 PM
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> > > > Everyone calls him a freak. Well he
> is
> > only as
> > > > freaky as this culture.
> > >
> > > Ahh, pure, you don't disappoint. Any well
> > respecting
> > > individual would not have put themselves in
> a
> > > limelight, subject to ridicule. Michael is
> a
> > victim
> > > of his own making.
> >
> > I disagree with you...surprise surprise....he's
> a
> > victim of his father's making....he knew
> nothing
> > else. From a young age he was taught that he
> had to
> > perform....so perform he did....I think his
> > freakiness is a part of his rebellion.
>
>
> Be it as it may, he became an adult, there comes a
> times when you cut the strings.
While I agree with you that should be the case...some folks can't...just a fact of life...not everyone has the same strengths and weaknesses....to me, he appears to be someone who couldn't let it go...hence all of his interviews where he talked about his feelings about it.
You're talking about a person who didn't have very many people in his life that he could trust. All you have to do is look at what is going on now. All of the statements being made.
How sad is this that he left a Will giving custody to either his mother or Diana Ross...he has eight siblings....he didn't name ONE of them to care for his children...what does that tell you about his feelings of trust? Who he could turn to...who he could believe in?
Again...I feel very sad for him....this was a very talented man with some very extreme confidence problems.
>
> >
> > Go back and read the interviews about how he
> cried
> > when he had to rehearse while other kids were
> > playing....how he threw up when his father was
> > near...not just as a child...but as an adult.
> His
> > father NEVER denied any of Michael's statements
> other
> > than correcting the word "beat" with the word
> > "whipped"....it was a matter of what weapon was
> > used.
> >
> > How sad.
>
> Yes it is sad. The man made millions, his father
> didn't stifle his creative abilities. If he was a
> tortured soul, his music should have given him solace
> along with his success which should have given him
> the strength to be his own man.
>
> Don't get me wrong, a parent can have an powerful
> influence on a child. MJ, for some odd reason, never
> grew up.
He was put in the spotlight at a very young age...and if you look at a lot child stars and the course of their lives...they had problems. His were just more pronounced. IMHO
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 8:29 PM
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> > > Everyone calls him a freak. Well he is
> only as
> > > freaky as this culture.
> >
> > Ahh, pure, you don't disappoint. Any well
> respecting
> > individual would not have put themselves in a
> > limelight, subject to ridicule. Michael is a
> victim
> > of his own making.
>
> I disagree with you...surprise surprise....he's a
> victim of his father's making....he knew nothing
> else. From a young age he was taught that he had to
> perform....so perform he did....I think his
> freakiness is a part of his rebellion.
Be it as it may, he became an adult, there comes a times when you cut the strings.
>
> Go back and read the interviews about how he cried
> when he had to rehearse while other kids were
> playing....how he threw up when his father was
> near...not just as a child...but as an adult. His
> father NEVER denied any of Michael's statements other
> than correcting the word "beat" with the word
> "whipped"....it was a matter of what weapon was
> used.
>
> How sad.
Yes it is sad. The man made millions, his father didn't stifle his creative abilities. If he was a tortured soul, his music should have given him solace along with his success which should have given him the strength to be his own man.
Don't get me wrong, a parent can have an powerful influence on a child. MJ, for some odd reason, never grew up.
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 8:26 PM
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child stars with overbearing stage parents have been around forever but none of them got a full body tattoo of a white woman...sorry, jacko ( not michael jackson ) was a self made , self fullfilling prophesy
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 8:21 PM
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> > Everyone calls him a freak. Well he is only as
> > freaky as this culture.
>
> Ahh, pure, you don't disappoint. Any well respecting
> individual would not have put themselves in a
> limelight, subject to ridicule. Michael is a victim
> of his own making.
I disagree with you...surprise surprise....he's a victim of his father's making....he knew nothing else. From a young age he was taught that he had to perform....so perform he did....I think his freakiness is a part of his rebellion.
Go back and read the interviews about how he cried when he had to rehearse while other kids were playing....how he threw up when his father was near...not just as a child...but as an adult. His father NEVER denied any of Michael's statements other than correcting the word "beat" with the word "whipped"....it was a matter of what weapon was used.
How sad.
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 8:16 PM
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> Everyone calls him a freak. Well he is only as
> freaky as this culture.
Ahh, pure, you don't disappoint. Any well respecting individual would not have put themselves in a limelight, subject to ridicule. Michael is a victim of his own making.
>
> I remember when MTV would not play his videos. I
> remember when MTV would not play any Black videos.
> Yes, liberal MTV and this was in the 80s, not the
> e 60s. Michael Jackson was a scarred individul
> moreso than most IMHO because he grew up in the
> public eye and therefore was rejected in some way or
> another because of his being black every day of his
> life. Shit, I remember when you had to watch BET to
> see a MJ video or any black videos for that matter
> (hence the reason why BET was developed, it rivaled
> MTV). I remember when MJ was not allowed to be pop
> because black people could only be R&B.
Yet he wasn't true to his heritage. A tortured soul, he didn't know whether he was black or white.
>
> Think about it, what made him rejectable?
>
> Answer:
> 1. His thick lips
> 2. his wide nose
> 3. his dark skin
> 4. his nappy hair
>
> What did Michael Jackson change?
>
> Answer:
> 1. his thick lips
> 2. his wide nose
> 3. his dark skin
> 4. his nappy hair
>
> It aint rocket science. I am not saying I would make
> the changes if I were in his situation. I am simply
> saying he did and I understand why even if I would
> never do it. Michael Jackson hated being black
> because this country hated him being black.
If that were the case, MJ proved to be a very insecure individual.
>
> I feel sorry that he couldnt hold onto his appearance
> becasue America has changed racially for the better.
> It seems like black people cant stay off of MTV now.
> . But when Michael jackson was coming up, as late as
> the 1980s, that was an entirely different story.
Again pure, it is a pleasure to read you once again.
Prejudice is alive and well and thriving.....
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 7:54 PM
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> if goldblum had died my watch would have stopped or
> my power go out ...didnt happen
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Sorry darlin'...it did happen! It was on the internet! I don't give a shit that Goldblum appeared on Colbert's show to prove it wrong! I read it on the "internets", therefore it HAS to be TRUE! LOL
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 7:49 PM
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if goldblum had died my watch would have stopped or my power go out ...didnt happen
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 7:47 PM
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> > > Celebrities are dropping like flies.
> >
> > I hope Jeff isn't next
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> > > http://www.vashtie.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01
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> > /the_fly-1986.jpg
> > " target="_blank">click
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> > --
> > Any man who judges by the group is a pea-wit.
> You
> > take men one at a time.
> there were rumors all day last week that goldblum
> fell off a cliff at a remote movie set.
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C'mon PBJ...admit it...Goldblum is dead! It has to be true! I read it on the internet! LOL
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 7:46 PM
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I feel sorry for the poor bastard...rumors and conjecture while he was alive...and after his death...the beat goes on. I truly hope he's at peace. Or should I say the "whipping" goes on.
And not just his parents...the general public as well.
How sad for him and his children.
Michael Jackson's mother gets custody of his kids: Will she screw them up, too?
by Carrie Stetler/The Star-Ledger
Tuesday June 30, 2009, 10:55 AM
Katherine Jackson, Michael Jackson's mom, now has custody of his children. Will she and husband Joe Jackson raise them like they raised Michael?
After hearing that Katherine Jackson won custody of Michael Jackson's children, my first response was this: Look what his parents did to him. What kind of damage are they going to inflict upon his kids?
In interviews, Michael Jackson, often spoke about being beaten and belittled by his father, Joe Jackson, an 80-year-old retired steel worker.
His dad's response?
"I whipped him with a switch and a belt. ... I never beat him. You beat someone with a stick," he told the BBC in 2003.
Katherine, apparently, wasn't much gentler. In a 2005 interview with The Associated Press, Joe Jackson claimed: "Katherine whipped Michael more than I did."
Although the other Jacksons have defended their dad--saying his tough love built their careers, and saved them from the hardscrabble streets of Gary, Indiana--one look at the shocking mess Michael Jackson made of his face, his life and his career, and you can't help but wonder how much of that was Joe and Katherine's doing.
If it weren't for them, the world wouldn't have known the unearthly talent of Michael Jackson in his youth. But they also seemed to have scarred him beyond belief.
But what are the alternatives for his kid, Paris, 12, Prince Michael, 11, and seven-year-old Prince Michael II, otherwise known as "Blanket?''
Debbie Rowe, their mom, apprently doesn't want custody of them. She's reportedly said of herself, "I was never a good mother'' and claims she bore them for Jackson as a "gift.'' Despite Michael Jackson's insistance that was their biological father, she claims he wasn't. The latest rumor is that their dad is Michael Jackson's dermotologist. (Other reports claim, Debbie Rowe wasn't their biological mother, but merely a surrogate.)
And what sort of life did they have with their father, who forced them to wear masks and veils, who was accused of child molestation, who notoriously dangled his infant son over a hotel balcony in Germany to appease screaming fans?
Last night, I watched a portion of the infamous 2003 BBC documentary of Michael Jackson by interviewer Martin Bashier . Jackson's level of denial and self-justification--he had only had two surgeries, it was "charming'' to sleep with friends' children--was staggering. But it was also deeply sad to hear him recount his brutal childhood, distorted by fame.
He seemed to be trying to make sense of it all, and using children--including his own--to heal all that pain. Its a bitter irony that his kids could now be raised by the very people who caused so much of it.
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 7:45 PM
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> > Celebrities are dropping like flies.
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Damn, he looks a little like Michael Jackson in that clip.
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Re: Let Me Explain Something About Michael Jackson
Jul 1, 2009 7:38 PM
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> > Celebrities are dropping like flies.
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> I hope Jeff isn't next
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> --
> Any man who judges by the group is a pea-wit. You
> take men one at a time.
there were rumors all day last week that goldblum fell off a cliff at a remote movie set.
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