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McCain Graduated Fifth from the Bottom of his Class

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McCain Graduated Fifth from the Bottom of his Class

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Re: McCain Graduated Fifth from the Bottom of his Class

Aug 9, 2008 2:49 PM
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> Or Dear John's $4 a gallon tongue twister at Sturgis
> Or his wanting to enter his wife into Ms. Buffalo
> Chip at Sturgis (which was written for him)
> Or Wanting to Drill Right Here and Right Now in
> Sturgis
> Sunnis vs. Shias
> Want a Tire Gauge...oh wait, checking tire pressure
> actually works
> The Iraq/Pakistan Border that was mentioned
>
> But Ole George beats them both wanting to put food on
> your family and being upset that OBGYNs might not be
> able to practice their "love" with women. I'm still
> gagging over that one.
>
> --
> "Thank you...No." --Major Charles Emerson Winchester
> III
>
> "Seems we've sung, Life's last song, Poor John, So
> Long." --Dear John


bartman,

What added irony to that faux pas was the fact that America's ratio of dead and live births keeps going the wrong way every year. Too many moms don't have the luxury of having an ob/gyn or good pre-natal care.
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Re: McCain Graduated Fifth from the Bottom of his Class

Aug 9, 2008 2:47 PM
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> Willie---Obama's made his fair share of verbal
> blunders and stammerings too, particurly when he's
> not reading a teleprompter or giving a rehearsed
> speech.
>
> 57 states. Breathylizer. Not knowing which
> concentration camp his grandfather liberated.
>
> Telling some young girl that the reason he decided to
> run for President is because "he got hit on the head
> with a rock."


c'mon, that was just a joke, not a factual error...sheesh
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Re: McCain Graduated Fifth from the Bottom of his Class

Aug 9, 2008 2:44 PM
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Or Dear John's $4 a gallon tongue twister at Sturgis
Or his wanting to enter his wife into Ms. Buffalo Chip at Sturgis (which was written for him)
Or Wanting to Drill Right Here and Right Now in Sturgis
Sunnis vs. Shias
Want a Tire Gauge...oh wait, checking tire pressure actually works
The Iraq/Pakistan Border that was mentioned

But Ole George beats them both wanting to put food on your family and being upset that OBGYNs might not be able to practice their "love" with women. I'm still gagging over that one.

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Aug 9, 2008 2:31 PM
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Willie---Obama's made his fair share of verbal blunders and stammerings too, particurly when he's not reading a teleprompter or giving a rehearsed speech.

57 states. Breathylizer. Not knowing which concentration camp his grandfather liberated.

Telling some young girl that the reason he decided to run for President is because "he got hit on the head with a rock."
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Re: McCain Graduated Fifth from the Bottom of his Class

Aug 8, 2008 3:08 PM
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> > Newsflash: The "Clintonians" support Obama.
> How
> > about you join THEM?
>
> I have, by fighting to keep our Change Boy sticks to
> the changes he promised instead of the changes on
> himself.
>
> If doing so means to defect or bring the Clintons
> back into the game, so be it.


Oh.

I thought supporting Hillary meant supporting Hillary.

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Aug 8, 2008 2:39 PM
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So Captain Dipshit, Obama or any other democrat/republican who voted to make sure that the troops that ole George stranded in harms way in Iraq had were properly funded are complicit with his lie??? Hmm, seems to me that if Obama voted to fund the troops, you spin it. You are now If he hadn't, you'd spin it and say that he didn't support the troops. Much like Dear John and his dueling ads for if Obama did visit the troops in Germany and his ad for if Obama didn't visit the troops in Germany. How quickly you became a Right Wing Nutcase. Congratulations!!! ;)

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Aug 8, 2008 2:25 PM
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> > Don't lie about the change, make the change,
> come and
> > join us, the Clintonians.
>
>
> Newsflash: The "Clintonians" support Obama. How
> about you join THEM?


I have, by fighting to keep our Change Boy sticks to the changes he promised instead of the changes on himself.

If doing so means to defect or bring the Clintons back into the game, so be it.

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Re: McCain Graduated Fifth from the Bottom of his Class

Aug 8, 2008 2:23 PM
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> Don't lie about the change, make the change, come and
> join us, the Clintonians.



Newsflash: The "Clintonians" support Obama. How about you join THEM?

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Aug 8, 2008 2:20 PM
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> Krugman

Yet another talking head. Professor Krugman must have forget the fact we're a PETRO-BASED economy, which means we can't afford to devote everything into getting out of it.

Blames. No solution.

Sounds like just like another liberal talking head.

> And the debate on energy policy has helped me find
> the words for something I?ve been thinking about for
> a while. Republicans, once hailed as the ?party of
> ideas,? have become the party of stupid.
>
> Now, I don?t mean that G.O.P. politicians are, on
> average, any dumber than their Democratic
> counterparts. And I certainly don?t mean to question
> the often frightening smarts of Republican political
> operatives.
>
> What I mean, instead, is that know-nothingism ?
> the insistence that there are simple, brute-force,
> instant-gratification answers to every problem, and
> that there?s something effeminate and weak about
> anyone who suggests otherwise ? has become the core
> of Republican policy and political strategy.
The
> party?s de facto slogan has become: ?Real men don?t
> think things through.?
>
> In the case of oil, this takes the form of pretending
> that more drilling would produce fast relief at the
> gas pump. In fact, earlier this week Republicans in
> Congress actually claimed credit for the recent fall
> in oil prices: ?The market is responding to the fact
> that we are here talking,? said Representative John
> Shadegg.
>
> What about the experts at the Department of Energy
> who say that it would take years before offshore
> drilling would yield any oil at all, and that even
> then the effect on prices at the pump would be
> ?insignificant?? Presumably they?re just a bunch of
> wimps, probably Democrats. And the Democrats, as
> Representative Michele Bachmann assures us, ?want
> Americans to move to the urban core, live in
> tenements, take light rail to their government
> jobs.?
>
> Is this political pitch too dumb to succeed? Don?t
> count on it.
>
> Remember how the Iraq war was sold. The stuff about
> aluminum tubes and mushroom clouds was just window
> dressing. The main political argument was, ?They
> attacked us, and we?re going to strike back? ? and
> anyone who tried to point out that Saddam and Osama
> weren?t the same person was an effete snob who hated
> America, and probably looked French.
>
> Let?s also not forget that for years President Bush
> was the center of a cult of personality that lionized
> him as a real-world Forrest Gump, a simple man who
> prevails through his gut instincts and moral
> superiority. ?Mr. Bush is the triumph of the
> seemingly average American man,? declared Peggy
> Noonan, writing in The Wall Street Journal in 2004.
> ?He?s not an intellectual. Intellectuals start all
> the trouble in the world.?
>
> It wasn?t until Hurricane Katrina ? when the heckuva
> job done by the man of whom Ms. Noonan said, ?if
> there?s a fire on the block, he?ll run out and help?
> revealed the true costs of obliviousness ? that the
> cult began to fade.
>
> What?s more, the politics of stupidity didn?t just
> appeal to the poorly informed. Bear in mind that
> members of the political and media elites were more
> pro-war than the public at large in the fall of 2002,
> even though the flimsiness of the case for invading
> Iraq should have been even more obvious to those
> paying close attention to the issue than it was to
> the average voter.
>
> Why were the elite so hawkish? Well, I heard a number
> of people express privately the argument that some
> influential commentators made publicly ? that the war
> was a good idea, not because Iraq posed a real
> threat, but because beating up someone in the Middle
> East, never mind who, would show Muslims that we mean
> business. In other words, even alleged wise men
> bought into the idea of macho posturing as policy.
>

> All this is in the past. But the state of the energy
> debate shows that Republicans, despite Mr. Bush?s
> plunge into record unpopularity and their defeat in
> 2006, still think that know-nothing politics works.
> And they may be right.
>
> Sad to say, the current drill-and-burn campaign is
> getting some political traction. According to one
> recent poll, 69 percent of Americans now favor
> expanded offshore drilling ? and 51 percent of them
> believe that removing restrictions on drilling would
> reduce gas prices within a year.
>
> The headway Republicans are making on this issue
> won?t prevent Democrats from expanding their majority
> in Congress, but it might limit their gains ? and
> could conceivably swing the presidential election,
> where the polls show a much closer race.
>
> In any case, remember this the next time someone
> calls for an end to partisanship, for working
> together to solve the country?s problems. It?s not
> going to happen ? not as long as one of America?s two
> great parties believes that when it comes to
> politics, stupidity is the best policy.

>
> ***********************************
>
> How will it help our country to unite with the stupid?


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Re: McCain Graduated Fifth from the Bottom of his Class

Aug 8, 2008 2:14 PM
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Krugman, Times


Op-Ed Columnist


Know-Nothing Politics

By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: August 7, 2008

So the G.O.P. has found its issue for the 2008 election. For the next three months the party plans to keep chanting: ?Drill here! Drill now! Drill here! Drill now! Four legs good, two legs bad!? O.K., I added that last part.


And the debate on energy policy has helped me find the words for something I?ve been thinking about for a while. Republicans, once hailed as the ?party of ideas,? have become the party of stupid.

Now, I don?t mean that G.O.P. politicians are, on average, any dumber than their Democratic counterparts. And I certainly don?t mean to question the often frightening smarts of Republican political operatives.

What I mean, instead, is that know-nothingism ? the insistence that there are simple, brute-force, instant-gratification answers to every problem, and that there?s something effeminate and weak about anyone who suggests otherwise ? has become the core of Republican policy and political strategy. The party?s de facto slogan has become: ?Real men don?t think things through.?

In the case of oil, this takes the form of pretending that more drilling would produce fast relief at the gas pump. In fact, earlier this week Republicans in Congress actually claimed credit for the recent fall in oil prices: ?The market is responding to the fact that we are here talking,? said Representative John Shadegg.

What about the experts at the Department of Energy who say that it would take years before offshore drilling would yield any oil at all, and that even then the effect on prices at the pump would be ?insignificant?? Presumably they?re just a bunch of wimps, probably Democrats. And the Democrats, as Representative Michele Bachmann assures us, ?want Americans to move to the urban core, live in tenements, take light rail to their government jobs.?

Is this political pitch too dumb to succeed? Don?t count on it.

Remember how the Iraq war was sold. The stuff about aluminum tubes and mushroom clouds was just window dressing. The main political argument was, ?They attacked us, and we?re going to strike back? ? and anyone who tried to point out that Saddam and Osama weren?t the same person was an effete snob who hated America, and probably looked French.

Let?s also not forget that for years President Bush was the center of a cult of personality that lionized him as a real-world Forrest Gump, a simple man who prevails through his gut instincts and moral superiority. ?Mr. Bush is the triumph of the seemingly average American man,? declared Peggy Noonan, writing in The Wall Street Journal in 2004. ?He?s not an intellectual. Intellectuals start all the trouble in the world.?

It wasn?t until Hurricane Katrina ? when the heckuva job done by the man of whom Ms. Noonan said, ?if there?s a fire on the block, he?ll run out and help? revealed the true costs of obliviousness ? that the cult began to fade.

What?s more, the politics of stupidity didn?t just appeal to the poorly informed. Bear in mind that members of the political and media elites were more pro-war than the public at large in the fall of 2002, even though the flimsiness of the case for invading Iraq should have been even more obvious to those paying close attention to the issue than it was to the average voter.

Why were the elite so hawkish? Well, I heard a number of people express privately the argument that some influential commentators made publicly ? that the war was a good idea, not because Iraq posed a real threat, but because beating up someone in the Middle East, never mind who, would show Muslims that we mean business. In other words, even alleged wise men bought into the idea of macho posturing as policy.

All this is in the past. But the state of the energy debate shows that Republicans, despite Mr. Bush?s plunge into record unpopularity and their defeat in 2006, still think that know-nothing politics works. And they may be right.

Sad to say, the current drill-and-burn campaign is getting some political traction. According to one recent poll, 69 percent of Americans now favor expanded offshore drilling ? and 51 percent of them believe that removing restrictions on drilling would reduce gas prices within a year.

The headway Republicans are making on this issue won?t prevent Democrats from expanding their majority in Congress, but it might limit their gains ? and could conceivably swing the presidential election, where the polls show a much closer race.

In any case, remember this the next time someone calls for an end to partisanship, for working together to solve the country?s problems. It?s not going to happen ? not as long as one of America?s two great parties believes that when it comes to politics, stupidity is the best policy.

***********************************

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Re: McCain Graduated Fifth from the Bottom of his Class

Aug 8, 2008 1:21 PM
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> Your candidate's voted killed 4,000+ Americans,
> wounded 10s of thousands more and ruined another
> country full of peaceful people and killed and
> wounded God knows how many of them. And for what?
> Nothing. I'll bet Ms. Hillary doesn't sleep well
> l knowing that she was duped by the Bush Adm.
>
> Can you spare a buck or two to help her pay down her
> debt?


Is the Obama campaign contributions money in his pocket?

Your candidate yelled against the war prior to any DC political burdens, and voted parallel to any Republicans on the war after he got into DC.

Is there a Before DC and After DC Obama. Is there a Before the Clinch or After the Clinch Obama. Oh he changes things alright.

No, you've no substance to backup anything about Obama's so call change campaign now.

What do you do? Go back to the very beginning of the lies or dreams or the half truths.

Recognize what's going on now isn't too late.

Don't lie about the change, make the change, come and join us, the Clintonians.

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Edited by infoseek at 08/08/2008 10:21 AM PDT

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Edited by infoseek at 08/08/2008 10:22 AM PDT
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Aug 8, 2008 1:16 PM
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Your candidate's voted killed 4,000+ Americans, wounded 10s of thousands more and ruined another country full of peaceful people and killed and wounded God knows how many of them. And for what? Nothing. I'll bet Ms. Hillary doesn't sleep well knowing that she was duped by the Bush Adm.

Can you spare a buck or two to help her pay down her debt?

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> Today Al Sadr said he'll disarm his militia as the
> troops go home. More good news.


They would say the same to any Congress mamas and papas or even dipshit Americans including myself for yelling, "we'll get out!"

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Hahaha,

Aren't we back to that I wasn't in the DC politics, but I WOULD have voted against an ongoing war???

Yet another Obama's call for changes.

Where are the changes he promised now?
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Today Al Sadr said he'll disarm his militia as the troops go home. More good news.
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