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I don't know how true this is but I found it pretty shocking. Any input would be welcome. http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/unvote.asp How they vote in the United Nations: Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations records: Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time. Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time. Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time. Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time. Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time. Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time. Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time. Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time. Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time. Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time. Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time. Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time. India votes against the United States 81% of the time. Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time. Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time. U S Foreign Aid to those that hate us: Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United States , still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid. ! Jordan votes 71% against the United States and receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid. Pakistan votes 75% against the United States Receives $6,721,000 annually in US Foreign Aid. India votes 81% against the United States Receives $143,699,000 annually. Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the tax savings back to the American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes (and gasoline). Yet our government bureaucrats and politicians think they can buy the friendship of these above who all think we are some of the dumbest suckers in the world. -- I'm feelin bitter today, someone give me my gun, I'm heading to church.
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According to this 1998 interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, the CIA's intervention in Afghanistan preceded the 1979 Soviet invasion.
This decision of the Carter Administration in 1979 to intervene and destabilize Afghanistan is the root cause of Afghanistan's destruction as a nation.
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Palestinians are the voice of the wretched of the earth.
The question of Palestine is the current litmus test for the human condition under modernity.
Palestinians have grounds for questioning the international community on its indifference to their cry for freedom and justice, and its apathy to the too heavy price that has been paid for these noble aspirations.
Palestinians bear not only the burden of liberating themselves but also of unmasking humanity's false pretensions.
In his most recent report of January 2008, the UN rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the occupied territories has recounted Israel's actions in Gaza, calling them "war crimes" and demonstrating how these have been relentlessly producing a humanitarian crisis.
Once again Israel defies an impotent international community which offers nothing but timid calls for ceasefire on "both sides." And once again Palestinian suffering and death tolls continue to break records in the territories occupied by Israel since 1967.
Legitimate resistance to a prolonged and horrendous military occupation within the context of the "war on terrorism" is a debate to be sought in the search for justice.
Of course the US Administration doesn't want the UN bringing attention to this or the MSM either !!!!
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The UN was created to help the world maintain Peace, the noblest international goal of all mankind.
The UN is the direct descendant of the League of Nations created by President Wilson and European leaders to help avoid the world ever suffering another world war after WWI.
President Wilson had a wonderful plan after WWI to set things right for all of the countries it had most damaged called the 14 Points.
# Open covenants of peace, openly arrived at, after which there shall be no private international understandings of any kind but diplomacy shall proceed always frankly and in the public view.
# Absolute freedom of navigation upon the seas, outside territorial waters, alike in peace and in war, except as the seas may be closed in whole or in part by international action for the enforcement of international covenants.
# The removal, so far as possible, of all economic barriers and the establishment of equality of trade conditions among all the nations consenting to the peace and associating themselves for its maintenance.
# Adequate guarantees given and taken that national armaments will be reduced to the lowest point consistent with domestic safety.
# A free, open-minded, and absolutely impartial adjustment of all colonial claims, based upon a strict observance of the principle that in determining all such questions of sovereignty the interests of the populations concerned must have equal weight with the equitable claims of the government whose title is to be determined.
# The evacuation of all Russian territory and such a settlement of all questions affecting Russia as will secure the best and freest cooperation of the other nations of the world in obtaining for her an unhampered and unembarrassed opportunity for the independent determination of her own political development and national policy and assure her of a sincere welcome into the society of free nations under institutions of her own choosing; and, more than a welcome, assistance also of every kind that she may need and may herself desire. The treatment accorded Russia by her sister nations in the months to come will be the acid test of their good will, of their comprehension of her needs as distinguished from their own interests, and of their intelligent and unselfish sympathy.
# Belgium, the whole world will agree, must be evacuated and restored, without any attempt to limit the sovereignty which she enjoys in common with all other free nations. No other single act will serve as this will serve to restore confidence among the nations in the laws which they have themselves set and determined for the government of their relations with one another. Without this healing act the whole structure and validity of international law is forever impaired.
# All French territory should be freed and the invaded portions restored, and the wrong done to France by Prussia in 1871 in the matter of Alsace-Lorraine, which has unsettled the peace of the world for nearly fifty years, should be righted, in order that peace may once more be made secure in the interest of all.
# A readjustment of the frontiers of Italy should be effected along clearly recognizable lines of nationality.
# The peoples of Austria-Hungary, whose place among the nations we wish to see safeguarded and assured, should be accorded the freest opportunity to autonomous development.
# Romania, Serbia, and Montenegro should be evacuated; occupied territories restored; Serbia accorded free and secure access to the sea; and the relations of the several Balkan states to one another determined by friendly counsel along historically established lines of allegiance and nationality; and international guarantees of the political and economic independence and territorial integrity of the several Balkan states should be entered into.
# The Turkish portion of the present Ottoman Empire should be assured a secure sovereignty, but the other nationalities which are now under Turkish rule should be assured an undoubted security of life and an absolutely unmolested opportunity of autonomous development, and the Dardanelles should be permanently opened as a free passage to the ships and commerce of all nations under international guarantees.
# An independent Polish state should be erected which should include the territories inhabited by indisputably Polish populations, which should be assured a free and secure access to the sea, and whose political and economic independence and territorial integrity should be guaranteed by international covenant.
# A general association of nations must be formed under specific covenants for the purpose of affording mutual guarantees of political independence and territorial integrity to great and small states alike
If all of those 14 points had been implemented, WWII would probably have been avoided as well as untold suffering on the part of several countries named even up to today and many small wars and conflicts in between.
Who stopped that from happening? Why a Republican of course!!! Using the very same wrong-minded, aggressive, selfish, heartless reasoning that members of that party still use today, that they used regarding the Iraq war in fact.
Meet Henry Cabot Lodge
Henry was just as typical a conservative republican as we see in America today, a racist, terribly worried about worthless ignorant immigrants flooding the country, a very nationalistic flag-waver, a war-mongerer.
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Following American victory in the Spanish-American War, Lodge came to represent the imperialist faction of the Senate, those who called for the annexation of the Philippines. Lodge maintained that the United States needed to have a strong navy and be more involved in foreign affairs. He was a staunch advocate of entering World War I on the side of the Allied Powers, attacking President Woodrow Wilson's perceived lack of military preparedness and accusing pacifists of undermining American patriotism. After the United States entered the war, Lodge continued to attack Wilson as hopelessly idealistic, assailing Wilson's "Fourteen Points" as unrealistic and weak. He contended that Germany needed to be militarily and economically crushed and saddled with harsh penalties so that it could never again be a threat to the stability of Europe.
As chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Lodge led the successful fight against American participation in the League of Nations, which had been proposed by President Woodrow Wilson at the close of World War I. He also served as chairman of the Senate Republican Conference from 1918 to 1924. During his term in office, he and another powerful senator, Albert J. Beveridge, pushed for the construction of a new navy.
Lodge maintained that membership in the world peacekeeping organization would threaten the sovereignty of the United States by binding the nation to international commitments it would not or could not keep. Lodge did not, however, object to the United States interfering in other nation's affairs, and was in actuality a proponent of imperialism.
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Opposition to the Fourteen Points among British and French leaders became clear after hostilities ceased: the British were against freedom of the seas; the French demanded war reparations.
Wilson was forced to compromise on many of his ideals to ensure that his most important point, the establishment of the League of Nations, was accepted. In the end, the Treaty of Versailles went against many of the principles of the Fourteen Points, both in detail and in spirit. Rather than "peace without victory," the treaty sought harsh punishment of Germany both financially and territorially. The resulting bitterness in Germany laid the seeds for the rise of Nazism in the 1930s which resulted, in part, from the economic depression of the 1920s in Germany which the Versailles Treaty helped create.
Failure of the U.S. to ratify the Treaty of Versailles
United States Senator Henry Cabot Lodge opposed ratification of the Treaty of Versailles
The United States Senate refused to ratify the Treaty of Versailles, making it invalid in the United States and effectively hamstringing the nascent League of Nations envisioned by Wilson. The largest obstacle faced in the ratification of the Treaty of Versailles was the opposition of Henry Cabot Lodge.
We lost over 50,000 soldiers in WWI and almost 300,000 in WWII.
Thank you republican senator Henry Lodge.
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> Mandela is a Commie that is why....
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you don't like black people do you nemeses?
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Mandela is a Commie that is why....
a lot of deaths went on in South Africa......
while he was in prison.......
do you remember he threw is wife.....
under the big yellow bus too....
after she most of the fighting for him.........
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just a note from history:
Nelson Mandela thanks UN for efforts to secure his release; urges continued sanctions against South Africa
UN Chronicle, Sept, 1990
Nelson Mandela thanks UN for efforts to secure his release; urges continued sanctions against South Africa
On 22 June 1990, Nelson Mandela, Deputy President of the African National Congress of South Africa (ANC), spoke from the rostrum of the General Assembly, thanking the United Nations for its efforts to secure his release and that of other South African political prisoners. He then urged the United Nations and individual Governments to continue the sanctions which they had imposed on South Africa.
Did you know Dick Cheney voted against and Ronald Reagan vetoed a bill to support Nelson Mandela's release from prison in apartheid South Africa?
Cheney and Mandela: Reconciling The Truth about Cheney's Vote
by Farai Chideya
We did not know then what we know now. We did not know that his statesmanship would be legendary, outstripped only by his forgiveness. We did not know he would be president, or that he could survive 27 years of imprisonment to walk free again. And in our nation, where athletes are superstars, we did not know that Americans would one day shower Nelson Mandela with ticker tape, like the Yankees fresh from winning the pennant.
When Rep. Dick Cheney voted against a 1986 resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela and recognition of the African National Congress, Americans did know this man had been waiting decades for his freedom. In a larger sense, so had all black South Africans. The tenets of American democracy -- one man, one vote -- were denied to the majority of citizens, along with the most basic economic and educational needs.
Yet Republican vice presidential candidate Cheney still defends his vote, saying on ABC's ``This Week'' that ``the ANC was then viewed as a terrorist organization. . . . I don't have any problems at all with the vote I cast 20 years ago.'' What, then, does this tell us about what information Cheney considers before he takes a decision? And what the long-term consequences are likely to be, and on whom?
By no means were Mandela or the ANC universally viewed as ``terrorists,'' evidenced by the fact that the vote on the resolution was 245-177 in favor, but still shy of the two-thirds needed to override President Ronald Reagan's veto.
Mandela and his longtime friend and colleague, ANC Secretary General Oliver Tambo, reflected deeply before advocating violence as even a limited tactic of the ANC. In a 1958 conversation with economist Winifred Armstrong, they reflected on their belief that ``if you sow violence, you reap violence.'' Armstrong, who has lived, traveled and written extensively about Africa, noted that ``Mandela and colleagues thought ahead, and considered the impacts on all of the players, not just the home team.''
As South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission has revealed, much to the consternation of all involved, the ANC's armed wing committed acts of violence, including bombings -- as did the government. In fact, while the United States maintained diplomatic ties with South Africa, former President P.W. Botha ordered the 1988 bombing of the South African Council of Churches in Johannesburg. Twenty-three people were injured. For decades, other government operatives did far worse, killing and maiming everyone from political activists to infants.
Mandela made choices no man should ever have to make about whether to lead a people into bloodshed for a just cause. In an interview with Time magazine shortly before he received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1994, Mandela said Chief Albert Luthuli, former ANC president and Nobel winner, ``believed in nonviolence as a way of life. But we who were in touch with the grass-roots persuaded the chief that if we did not begin the armed struggle, then people would proceed without guidance.''
Dick Cheney has had to make life-and-death choices of his own. His handlers are burnishing his star in large part based on his role in the Gulf War, a conflict that took on an elephant-and-flea aspect as American tanks rolled over fleeing Iraqui soldiers. Now, in the most American of parlays, Cheney has come back, briefcase in hand, to help Iraqi oil interests rebuild. Both partisan allies and veteran journalists call him a civil man, an intelligent man. But while people deride knee-jerk liberalism, there is such a thing as knee-jerk conservatism, as well, as evidenced by the laundry list of Cheney votes on issues from armor-piercing bullets to voting to cut funding for Head Start.
America prides itself on its just wars. World War II produced what many now call ``the Greatest Generation,'' and the Revolutionary War gave us our birth. But every battle leaves scars, some deeper than others. Even America could not accomplish its revolution without a full-fledged war. Nelson Mandela, through a mix of the violence he loathed and hard-won prison diplomacy, accomplished that. Rather than calling him a terrorist, most Americans consider him a hero of democracy.
We should think clearly about how we define democracy, how inclusive it is and how far in the future our leaders must look to make the right choices for our nation, and the world.
Chideya is a New York journalist and editor of PopandPolitics.com
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Common Dreams reporter Amy Goodman wrote about this 11/2004:
Former South African President Nelson Mandela recently announced that he was retiring from public life. And Mandela will not be among the foreign dignitaries attending services for Ronald Reagan. After all, Mandela was languishing in a South African prison throughout the duration of Reagan?s presidency. But this history has been effectively re-written in the US. The dominant view is that the US was on the right side in South Africa, that it opposed apartheid. But nothing could be further from the truth, particularly when Reagan was president. Reagan labeled Mandela?s African National Congress a notorious terrorist organization, while continuing Washington?s support for the apartheid regime. In 1981, Reagan explained to CBS that he was loyal to the South African regime because it was ?a country that has stood by us in every war we?ve ever fought, a country that, strategically, is essential to the free world in its production of minerals.?
But even as the majority of the American people came to oppose South Africa?s apartheid regime, Reagan stood by his friend. African American leaders and organizations pressured Congress to take action and ultimately it passed sanctions against South Africa. True to form, Reagan vetoed the bill. But to Reagan?s shame, Congress overrode the veto. Today, we are going to look at Reagan?s support for apartheid South Africa with one of the victim?s of that regime-Father Michael Lapsley. In 1990, three months after the release of Nelson Mandela, the De Klerk Government sent Father Lapsley a package containing two magazines. Inside one of them was a highly sophisticated bomb. When Lapsley opened the magazine, the explosion brought down ceilings in the house and blew a hole in the floors and shattered windows. It also blew off both of the priest?s hands, blew out one of his eyes and burned him severely. He flew in from South Africa last night and now joins us in our firehouse studio.
* Fr. Michael Lapsley, director of the Institute for Healing of Memories. Previously he worked at the Trauma Center for Victims of Violence and Torture in Cape Town, which assisted the Truth and Reconciliation Commission headed by Archbishop Desmond Tutu. He flew in from South Africa last night.
Amy Goodman: I wanted to talk you to about those years as we wrap up our week of ?Remembering the Dead,? as we look at the history of the Reagan years and then to end by talking about restorative justice, an issue that you take around the world. Can you talk about those years, 1981 to 1989, in South Africa.
Father Michael Lapsley: Yes. I think it?s good to think about what South Africa was like inside the country as well as what was happening in the front line states at that time. During those years, there were two states of emergency. Vast numbers of people were imprisoned. It was during those years, and this is a salient point for people this country this time that torture became normative. It became a principle weapon used by the Apartheid regime against people, particularly against black children during that period. It was also a period where there were a vast number of people on death row in South Africa. Every Thursday, up to seven people at a time were executed, but it was also a time when the Apartheid regime was in the rampage in the Front Line States attacking Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique and Zimbabwe. There were a number of massacres of refugees that took place. It was also a time of civil war in Angola. And it was the Reagan administration that was supporting the Unita bandits in Angola and fomenting war. And it was clear to the people of South Africa during those years, that whilst there were a vast number of ordinary people in the United States, particularly African-Americans who stood with us, the Reagan administration was on the side of Apartheid. It was both Reagan and Thatcher who were giving succor to the Apartheid regime and in a sense prolonging our struggle. More people had to die in South Africa because of the support that came from western governments, particularly from Washington and London at that period.
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Iraq war illegal, says Annan
Kofi Annan
Watch Kofi Annan
The United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan has told the BBC the US-led invasion of Iraq was an illegal act that contravened the UN charter.
He said the decision to take action in Iraq should have been made by the Security Council, not unilaterally.
The UK government responded by saying the attorney-general made the "legal basis... clear at the time".
http://tinyurl.com/5pl2v
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The US does not want to discuss concrete issues ever in the UN over the Israeli/Palestinian conflict
Most of these UN meetings on Israel are as the Arab attendees know are nothing but a PR shows for American consumption.
Why did the United States withdraw a U.N. resolution endorsing an agreement by Israeli and Palestinian leaders to try to reach a Mideast peace settlement by the end of 2008 ??
Apparently Israel objected !!!.
Deputy Ambassador Alejandro Wolff informed the Security Council that the United States was pulling the resolution from consideration less than 24 hours after Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad had introduced it and welcomed the "very positive" response from council members".!!!!!
Remember when former Pres Carter released Peace Not Apartied, 14 members of the Carter Center Committee (all American Jews) resigned in protest and called it Anti-Semetism.
Within the next few days, there was an article calling for an investigation of the Carter Center's finances.
What will it ever take for this country to wake up to the realities of Zionism and the neocons when the Jewish lobby orginization AIPAC saturates Washington with ''operatives''. ???
Remember former Bush White House press secretary Ari Fleischer?
He started "Freedom's Watch" a "new group of prominent ''conservatives''who run million-dollar advertising campaigns to urging members of Congress who may be wavering in their support for the war in Iraq not to 'cut and run". !!!!
Remember it was Israel who wanted us to go to war with Iraq?
And who is it that now wants the USA to attack Iran? ???
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No because it doesn't help Israel !!!!
No because the USA can continue strictly implementing UN resolutions everywhere except where Israel is concerned.
The Palestinians want peace with Justice for all !!!
Palestinian peace process is UN Resolutions 194, 242, 338 etc etc ....
The Us & Israel peace process for Palestinians is Surrender or War.
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The USA doesn't need the UN because the USA and Israel think they own the World !!!!
UN demands Israel fully withdraw from Syria's Golan
Syria-Israel-UN, Politics, 12/3/2005
UN General Assembly has demanded Israel to fully withdraw from the occupied Syrian Golan to the line of June 4th 1967 in accordance with the relevant UN resolutions.
The assembly said in a resolution adopted during its session held Thursday that Israel refused to implement any UN resolution including resolution no 497 which stipulates total withdrawal from the Syrian Golan.
"Occupying the Syrian Golan and imposing the Israeli will and laws there are null and totally illegitimate," the resolution said.
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/051203/2005120303.html
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"You must end the illegal occupation."
Kofi Annan, addressing Israel in a meeting of the UN Security Council, March 12, 2002
http://www.monabaker.com/conflictfacts.htm
Israel has issued only 91 construction permits to Palestinians in the West Bank over the past seven years but granted 18,472 to Jewish settlers, Israeli activists said on Thursday.For each building permit given to Palestinians 55 demolition orders were issued .
The number of permit rejections for Palestinians between 2000 and 2007 was 94 percent while virtually all settler requests were granted, it said.
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=216232
Military checkpoints -- Curfews --- Home demolition -- Missile attacks--- Targeted assassinations---Killing of women & children--
Residents of certain parts of the West Bank are forbidden to travel to the rest of the West Bank.
People of a certain age group - mainly men from the age of 16 to 30, 35 or 40 - are forbidden to leave the areas where they reside
http://www.monabaker.com/quotes.htm
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Some children were born inside the prisons, and they are experiencing health problems.
350 of those children against international conventions are languishing in prison.
Torturing children
The interrogation of children begins after 3 days of detention. Upon the 3rd day, the child is deprived of all human necessities, besides being subjected to lengthy, successive, repeated sessions of interrogations. At such times the child is deprived of his right to sleep and is prohibited from using the toilet for long periods
Mothers experience extremely difficult mental depression being subjected to humiliation, having to give birth while being chained by the wrists and feet.
Such inhumane treatment is a clear breach of human rights.
350 Palestinian children are suffering inside Israeli prisons
Please sign this petition
http://uruknet.info/?p=m43990&hd=&size=1&l=e
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housebird,
I'm not 'copping out'. I've told you where I stand on the issue and why. You've made valid arguments for why you support the Palestinians and abhor Israel and her supporters including the US.
In all of your I'm imagining considerable research on the conflict between these two entities, have you come up with anything that would indicate the Palestinian people and/or the leaders they choose would be in any way better people than the Israelis have been? Kinder, gentler, more just, more considerate or their opponents, etc??
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> I don't know how true this is but I found it pretty
> shocking. Any input would be welcome.
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> http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/unvote.asp
> How they vote in the United Nations:
> Below are the actual voting records of various
> Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the
> US State Department and United Nations records:
> Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the
> time
Damn and we went to war for them.
> Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the
> time
> Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the
> time
> United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of
> the time.
And we support them.
> Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the
> time.
> Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the
> time.
> Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of
> the time.
> Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the
> time.
> Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the
> time.
> Oman votes against the United States 74% of the
> time.
> Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the
> time.
> Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the
> time.
Didn't we place a puppet government in this country?
> Libya votes against the United States 76% of the
> time.
> Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the
> time.
> Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the
> time.
> India votes against the United States 81% of the
> time.
> Syria votes against the United States 84% of the
> time.
> Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the
> time.
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And so? We usually oppose their governments and mode of operation.
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> U S Foreign Aid to those that hate us:
> Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time
> against the United States , still receives $2 billion
> annually in US Foreign Aid.
> ! Jordan votes 71% against the United States and
> receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.
> Pakistan votes 75% against the United States Receives
> $6,721,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.
> India votes 81% against the United States Receives
> $143,699,000 annually.
> Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the
> tax savings back to the American workers who are
> having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes (and
> gasoline).
> Yet our government bureaucrats and politicians think
> they can buy the friendship of these above who all
> think we are some of the dumbest suckers in the
> world.
We buy whatever we can when it suits both countries. Ever think why we are so hated?
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> I'm feelin bitter today, someone give me my gun, I'm
> heading to church.
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