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Don't get me wrong. I loved the movie, and I even found the documentary awesome.
But come on, these women were disturbed.
There's no two bones about it. They were delusional and obviously young Edie was very bitter about the way her life turned out, even though she was never able to hold onto her feelings of bitterness.
The passive/aggressive way she related to her mother did not = love.
In the documentary, when Edie breaks into tears over how her mother ruined her chance to marry, well it was just heartbreaking.
And hearing her say over and over, I've just got to get out of here; I can't spend another winter here; I'd live in a rat hole in NY and be happy -- that's not the words of a person who is happy.
Big Edie was also in her own world of misery. I thought it was very telling when she confesses that she couldn't let her daughter marry, otherwise she'd be all alone.
In the movie, when young Edie is urged to come home by her mother after being dumped by her married lover and she gets home, all dejected and hurting and her mother mentions nothing about it -- NOTHING!!!
Just pretends that it never happened, that she didn't say Come home and let me take care of you, Edie --- oh, that was heartbreaking.
Big Edie always claimed she was taking care of Young Edie, but truthfully it was the other way around.
To me, this was a movie about two people, mother and daughter, clearly trapped in a life of misery of their own making but unable in any way to face it or deal with it. The documentary outlines this even more, with Big Edie yelling for Edie every five minutes EEEEDIE!!!
I do think, though, Jessica Lang and Drew Barrymore did an excellent job portraying these characters. The both captured them perfectly.
The real young Edie, however, looked a lot better at 56 in the real documentary than they made Drew Barrymore look.
She was really stunning as a young women and still held onto her beauty as she got older.
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Re: The Edies Were Disturbed
May 8, 2009 1:02 PM
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> I am a die-hard fan of the documentary and love the
> film. I am one of those that gets defensive when
> someone says that they thought it was 'stupid' or
> that they were just plain crazy and belonged in a
> mental hospital.
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> But I have to agree about the filth. That's one part
> I just don't understand.
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It's hard to understand why someone would willingly subject themselves to living conditions such as the Edies lived under. They obviously had many issues, codependency being a fundemental one.
I definately agree that these two women just could not be without the other, that it had deteriorated to the point of no return. Crazy? I don't think they were crazy, just that they had so many issues that they didn't know how to deal.
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Re: The Edies Were Disturbed
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I am a die-hard fan of the documentary and love the film. I am one of those that gets defensive when someone says that they thought it was 'stupid' or that they were just plain crazy and belonged in a mental hospital.
But I have to agree about the filth. That's one part I just don't understand.
I am just so happy that the documentary wasn't in 'stink-o-vision"
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Re: The Edies Were Disturbed
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I loved this movie also, but even Grandma, who raised most of her kids during the Depression-we are talking real Tobacco Road type shit here-said you can always find a bucket of hot water and soap. I could understand not having money to fix up a house but not living in garbage and catshit.
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Apr 30, 2009 2:37 AM
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Don't get me wrong. I loved the movie, and I even found the documentary awesome.
But come on, these women were disturbed.
There's no two bones about it. They were delusional and obviously young Edie was very bitter about the way her life turned out, even though she was never able to hold onto her feelings of bitterness.
The passive/aggressive way she related to her mother did not = love.
In the documentary, when Edie breaks into tears over how her mother ruined her chance to marry, well it was just heartbreaking.
And hearing her say over and over, I've just got to get out of here; I can't spend another winter here; I'd live in a rat hole in NY and be happy -- that's not the words of a person who is happy.
Big Edie was also in her own world of misery. I thought it was very telling when she confesses that she couldn't let her daughter marry, otherwise she'd be all alone.
In the movie, when young Edie is urged to come home by her mother after being dumped by her married lover and she gets home, all dejected and hurting and her mother mentions nothing about it -- NOTHING!!!
Just pretends that it never happened, that she didn't say Come home and let me take care of you, Edie --- oh, that was heartbreaking.
Big Edie always claimed she was taking care of Young Edie, but truthfully it was the other way around.
To me, this was a movie about two people, mother and daughter, clearly trapped in a life of misery of their own making but unable in any way to face it or deal with it. The documentary outlines this even more, with Big Edie yelling for Edie every five minutes EEEEDIE!!!
I do think, though, Jessica Lang and Drew Barrymore did an excellent job portraying these characters. The both captured them perfectly.
The real young Edie, however, looked a lot better at 56 in the real documentary than they made Drew Barrymore look.
She was really stunning as a young women and still held onto her beauty as she got older.
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"Wanda, if I had a dollar for every time I wished someone I loved dead, Id be the richest person in the world . . . and, as you know, sometimes Ive even acted on it. I know I shouldnt be proud of it buuuttt . . .I AM! Ahhhhh, the concussions I gave my sister wives" ~ Lois Henrickson.
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