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I'm pretty sure that Jefferson came back to play himself, using the name of Stephen Dillane. Come on, no one is THAT good of an actor, so I wonder how HBO or Tom Hanks got him to make a comeback?
I've got to say, he looks damn good!
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 12, 2008 8:05 AM
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> >>>Interesting. A confession? Perhaps we might behead
> them all and leave only an "adam and eve" in each and
> every country after the sentiments of a bankrupted,
> fruitcake of a President?
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> What are you talking about? It was a take-off on
> dialog from episode 6, between TJ and Adams. I
> believe the exact quote was
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Actual Historical Letter (as opposed to some silly screenplay)
Janurary 3rd, 1793 by Thomas Jefferson
My own affections have been deeply wounded by some of the martyrs to this cause, but rather than it should have failed, I would have seen half the earth desolated. Were there but an Adam and an Eve left in every country, and left free, it would be better than as it now is.
Are you still a fan of the ideas and life of Tommy Jefferson? Given the preoccupation with Thomas Jefferson by a significant (yet numerically small) I'm wondering why this gem among others was not better portrayed by the series?
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 12, 2008 2:26 AM
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as deserving as SD overwhelmingly may be, i wouldn't get my hopes up for Emmy.
emmy voters are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 12, 2008 2:01 AM
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> If he doesn't win an Emmy for Best Supporting Actor,
> then I think we should ship out the entire voting
> population, along with any other luckless soul who
> happens to voice a contrary opinion.
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>>>Interesting. A confession? Perhaps we might behead them all and leave only an "adam and eve" in each and every country after the sentiments of a bankrupted, fruitcake of a President?
What are you talking about? It was a take-off on dialog from episode 6, between TJ and Adams. I believe the exact quote was
"Why blacken your fragile reputation with an assault on the freedoms for which we both fought? Do you intend to ship out the entire French population in the United States? Along with any other luckless soul who happens to voice a contrary opinion?"
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 12, 2008 1:11 AM
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> If he doesn't win an Emmy for Best Supporting Actor,
> then I think we should ship out the entire voting
> population, along with any other luckless soul who
> happens to voice a contrary opinion.
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Interesting. A confession? Perhaps we might behead them all and leave only an "adam and eve" in each and every country after the sentiments of a bankrupted, fruitcake of a President?
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 12, 2008 12:55 AM
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"Believe it or not, I was the first person in the
theater, a few minutes later three women arrived and
sat right next to me. Kinda strange. But that got
us to talking and it turns out that one of the woman
was Rade Sherbegia's sister-in-law. She didn't say
much other than he was a very nice man."
oh my, does this mean that the only people who watch this movie are either close family member of the actors or their hard-boiled fans? Did others join later on?
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 11, 2008 10:53 PM
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If he doesn't win an Emmy for Best Supporting Actor, then I think we should ship out the entire voting population, along with any other luckless soul who happens to voice a contrary opinion.
So many good scenes, but Episode 6 "Unnecessary War" should clinch it.
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 11, 2008 10:42 PM
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I send a hearty hello to Clamatis !! Its nice to be around "positive " posters who have similar interests like mine. Isnt Fugitive Pieces a fantastic film? I am going to end up seeing it again later in week, very worth it!!
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 11, 2008 10:20 PM
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> Just got back from seeing Fugitive Pieces. God, what
> I wouldn't give to have a man like Stephen look at me
> the way he looks at Michaela.
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> Believe it or not, I was the first person in the
> theater, a few minutes later three women arrived and
> sat right next to me. Kinda strange. But that got
> us to talking and it turns out that one of the woman
> was Rade Sherbegia's sister-in-law. She didn't say
> much other than he was a very nice man.
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> Welcome Clamantis. Good to have you aboard the SD
> train.
From the trailers I have see and what I saw on you tube,I agree with you completely.I would have melted if he had looked at me like that.I bet many of the women who have worked with him were charmed by him as well
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 11, 2008 10:00 PM
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Oh and in response to my poll question, I think I'm going to go with the scene in the White House where he asks President Adams for his support. I just think there is so much going on in that scene between these two men and most of the emotion is done by the looks they give each other. I could feel the tension and the break down of their relationship. So cool.
I was torn between that one and the walk in the garden with Abigail. He's just so scrumptious in that scene. You can totally see why Abigail liked him.
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May 11, 2008 9:53 PM
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Just got back from seeing Fugitive Pieces. God, what I wouldn't give to have a man like Stephen look at me the way he looks at Michaela.
Believe it or not, I was the first person in the theater, a few minutes later three women arrived and sat right next to me. Kinda strange. But that got us to talking and it turns out that one of the woman was Rade Sherbegia's sister-in-law. She didn't say much other than he was a very nice man.
Welcome Clamantis. Good to have you aboard the SD train.
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 11, 2008 9:38 PM
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I agree, Clamantis! It seems like everyone around me is discussing TV shows I don't really watch, so it's nice to have a place to discuss this series, and to discuss the wonderful Stephen!
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 11, 2008 9:14 PM
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I have to agree on the ignore "button". If one can't respond on an intellectual level without name calling, childish whining and/or profanity then one really shouldn't reply at all. Further if the simple of reading an opinion that may conflict with your own drives you to "screaming", profanity and personal attacks than "ignore" is certainly best. "Ignoring" is certainly an option that would have corresponded with many of the ideas of the Founding Fathers who much preferred to not limit Free Speech.
Further, simply "ignoring" does not prevent the much larger audience of readers/non-posters/observers from the benefit of higher quality and more meaningful posts.
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May 11, 2008 9:12 PM
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I think this sight is a blast! It's great to see such pure enthusiasm and positivity in one place. What a contrast to other sites where people come to vent negative thoughts and to make others feel bad. I tune in on occasion just to see how things are going, and have been gratified to see the high level of courtesy and spirit of fun that attends this enterprise. Keep up the good work, and don't let things slide into the mean spirited and low. Go Stephen! Go TJ!
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 11, 2008 9:00 PM
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> Why so many lawyers and other pseduo-intellectuals
> find it stylish, trendy and self-appealing to worship
> Tommy Jefferson.
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> Jefferson was the exact opposite in character of
> George Washington and John Adams. Although Tommy
> Jefferson was chosen originally as the figurehead
> writer of the Declaration, it is clear from numerous
> historical accounts that much wiser and educated men
> had the last word after much revision.
> Of course, many find the idea of being an author
> attractive many of whose work is suspect even now
> love the idea of taking credit for work they played
> only a small part in.
> Left to his own devices in France, a number of quotes
> and accounts widely attribute the massive blood
> letting in France to Jefferson's lack of personal
> self control and egotistical mannerisms and
> lifestyle. Clearly there will always be elements of
> any human population that find hedonism, mass murder
> and meglomania attractive.
> As a personal bankrupt, slaveowner and what would be
> e clearly judged a harassing and sex offending head
> of household, Jefferson is also an excellent example
> for those who say the personal life should be
> separate from the public and perhaps it should. As
> an example Jefferson is widely used as an excuse for
> those who say, "See, Jefferson was a sex offender, a
> bankrupt and a philosophical nut but as a president
> he must have been excused therefore "I" (not me).
> The sad truth is that just as early America
> ca produced the very finest of men in George
> Washington and Adams, it also produced great evil in
> Jefferson, Hamilton and others.
> Such a man as Jefferson should never had
> never had been President and it was clearly only
> after numerous compromises were made that Jefferson
> was elected at all, a Puppet President, A Puppet
> writer, and a puppet Founding Father.
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Re: Stephen Dillane IS Thomas Jefferson
May 11, 2008 8:25 PM
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> jmarsh, that's a tough one! It's difficult to choose
> one out of the many stellar scenes he did. If I had
> to choose one it would probably be in episode 5 (?)
> when he was visiting with Abigail and JA and the was
> showing her the architectural drawings for
> Monticello, and talking about the violence in France.
> On the other hand, one of my favorites is in ep. 2
> 2 when he, Ben Franklin and JA are going over the
> Declaration.....oh, heck - decisions, decisions!!
I love those scenenes as well but what i really loved was wehn he had just gotten back from France and he was welcomed back by Washington.The looks he shot at Hamilton and the other men and wehn he he shot adams a look when Adams laughed at that thing hamilton had said about if We were angels athan we wouldnt need government or something like that.I aslo enjoyed when he was longing out at the Adams house going on about his plans for Monticello.he looked so handsome there
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