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This thread is to post all the wonderous things archeologists are finding as well as the historical areas being reopened. The purpose of it is to allow us all to share what we are finding with other Rome/history enthusiasts. I hope all will enjoy this thread and the many many discussions I'm sure will ensure.  LadyC -- Show her what she's done.
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Re: Historical Discoveries
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Cool, Atia! Thanks for sharing. If I lived closer to Arkansas, I love to go! I'm contantly looking for nearby exhibits on the Classical world to visit. My last one was this past February. Lady C. and I went to one at the Nat. Gallery in DC. Fun, fun!
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Re: Historical Discoveries
Aug 10, 2009 4:06 AM
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> Elare! Is that true? I had heard one of the
> emporers had said that but never on the toilet, or
> which one! I love it. LOL
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> LadyC
Yes, it's true. I had to do a lot of Vespasian research for my novel on Pompeii, and I read it in many places. He was an earthy sort, fond of saying he preferred the smell of garlic to perfume, and loved sarcasm. He once scolded his son Titus who was complaining about him taxing urinals, making him take the coins in his hand and admit they did not smell of piss. Some of these little things were so human nature today I loved to find a way to work them in. I think Rome was very lucky to have had his stabilizing influence as Emperor for 10 yrs, although he did build the Colosseum, dying right before it was finished. Titus opened it, commemorating his father with 100 days of spectacles.
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Re: Historical Discoveries
Aug 9, 2009 6:53 PM
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> Thanks for the info, Lady C. Vespasian must have
> clearly sunk money into the old family homestead
> after he became Emperor, for his family were known as
> muleteers and mule traders, decidedly low-tier.
> However, I do know he liked to sojurn to his country
> y estate, in fact where he died, reportedly on the
> toilet, saying "I fear I'm becoming a god..."
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> He was in fact, deified after dying, his sarcasm
> accurate.
Elare! Is that true? I had heard one of the emporers had said that but never on the toilet, or which one! I love it. LOL
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Thanks for the info, Lady C. Vespasian must have clearly sunk money into the old family homestead after he became Emperor, for his family were known as muleteers and mule traders, decidedly low-tier. However, I do know he liked to sojurn to his country estate, in fact where he died, reportedly on the toilet, saying "I fear I'm becoming a god..."
He was in fact, deified after dying, his sarcasm accurate.
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ROME (Aug. 7) - Archaeologists have unearthed a sprawling country villa believed to be the birthplace of Vespasian, the Roman emperor who built the Colosseum, they said Friday.
Archaeologists said Friday they had uncovered an ancient Roman villa believed to be the birthplace of the Emperor Vespasian. The 2,000-year-old ruins were found about 80 miles northeast of Rome, near Cittareale. There were no inscriptions, but "This is the only villa of this kind in the area where he most certainly was born," said archaeologist Filippo Coarelli.
Even though there are no inscriptions to attribute it for sure, the villa's location and luxury make it likely it was Vespasian's birthplace, Coarelli said.
"This is the only villa of this kind in the area where he most certainly was born," the archaeologist said in a telephone interview from Cittareale.
The first-century residence featured "a well-preserved huge floor, decorated with luxurious marble coming from the whole Mediterranean area," he said.
"It's clear that such things could only belong to someone with a high social position and wealth. And in this place, it was the Flavians," the dynasty to which Vespasian belonged.
four-year excavation, which also turned up other ruins, including a necropolis burial ground, was carried out by a group of Italian and British archaeologists.
Vespasian, whose full name was Titus Flavius Vespasianus, brought stability to the empire following turmoil under the extravagant Emperor Nero and a civil war among his successors.
Born in A.D. 9 into a family of low-tier country nobility, Vespasian rose through the army ranks, becoming the general in charge of putting down a Jewish revolt in Judea.
After being acclaimed emperor by his troops in A.D. 69 and eliminating his rivals, Vespasian found Rome facing a deep economic crisis and still recovering from the fire that consumed it under Nero.
Using riches plundered from Jerusalem and proceeds from increased taxes, he launched a major public works program and started building the Colosseum ? the most ambitious and best-preserved of his projects.
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Aug 6, 2009 7:22 AM
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Looks like we're back... finally.. But we've got alot of rebuilding to do... time to make Rome into a city of Marble and not one of wood or bricks... Augustus would be proud.
I'm sadden by the loss of so many wonderful threads... especially those wonderful antics during the Vote for Rome stint last year. PatPat was hilarious in her storys. I'd often gone back to read them. ::sigh:: I shall miss them
Perhaps PatPat can make a compilation of them (if she still has them) and make a new thread with only those posts. I should enjoy those very much indeed!
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Hi LadyC,
The magic words might be "HBOAdmin17". A poster sent this request, and quite a few Deadwood threads were subsequently unlocked. Maybe a pm to the admin gets it done:
Admin17.....I respectfully request that you unlock Deadwood Comics on the Deadwood forum.
Rutheford's a comic genius and he updates the thread regularly with a new 'edition' of DC.
Just take a look at a the last few weeks of DC and I think you'll be convinced that DC is a viable, entertaining thread.
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Aug 5, 2009 7:28 AM
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Admins,
What's going on with our threads? Threads for June and July have been locked whereas threads which haven't been active since before June are still available? I don't understand.
Will someone please explain what's going on? In the Bugs and Comments threads, no one has answered there either.
LadyC
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Re: Historical Discoveries
Aug 5, 2009 1:00 AM
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Here's another one, came out in March of this year about the famous gladiator and his epic struggle:
The Spartacus War
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Re: Historical Discoveries
Aug 4, 2009 9:57 AM
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Oh, that looks juicy! Might have to succumb and read that one!
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Re: Historical Discoveries
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Speaking of Romans serving at the wall, reminds me of a book I encountered researching other works of historical fiction yesterday at barnesandnoble.com.
"Medicus", by Ruth Downie, was written in 2007. Here's part of the description listed. May just give someone a Rome fix they enjoy:
Gaius Petrius Ruso is a divorced and down-on his luck army doctor who has made the rash decision to seek his fortune in an inclement outpost of the Roman Empire, namely Britannia. His arrival in Deva (more commonly known as Chester, England) does little to improve his mood, and after a straight thirty six hour shift at the army hospital, he succumbs to a moment of weakness and rescues an injured slave girl, Tilla, from the hands of her abusive owner.Now he has a new problem: a slave who won't talk and can't cook, and drags trouble in her wake. Before he knows it, Ruso is caught in the middle of an investigation into the deaths of prostitutes working out of the local bar. A few years earlier, after he rescued Emperor Trajan from an earthquake in Antioch, Ruso seemed headed for glory: now he's living among heathens in a vermin-infested bachelor pad and must summon all his forensic knowledge to find a killer who may be after him next.
Publishers Weekly
The salacious underside of Roman-occupied Britain comes to life in Britisher Downie's debut.
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Re: Historical Discoveries
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> > It was simply amazing that just yesterday the
> > Military Channel ran a program on the Roman
> soldiers
> > of Hadrian's wall. It was called "Letters from
> the
> > Roman Front" and it had to do with a cohort of
> > Batavian auxililaries that occupied Vindolanda
> at the
> > beginning of Hadrian's rule. Excavations there
> > discovered a number of letters by these soldiers
> that
> > give us a very good idea of life of frontier
> troops.
> > A nice program to watch if you have this
> channel.
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> I don't get the "Military Channel" but I understand
> it is a part of the discovery channel? So, I might
> be able to find it on line... Hope so, what you
> described sounds like great information on Hadrian's
> Wall.
Hmmm, I do not know if it is part of the Discovery or the History Channel group. Although at times the information there is over the top, it has produced a number of nice series (or has bought them from European television producers). The "Letters from the Roman Front" is overall a good program, although these letters are relatively old news and well included in the modern literature highlighting not only Hadrian's wall but typical army situations in the first part of the 2nd century CE. New texts on the Roman Army include much of the information from these letters and equivalent letters discovered in Roman forts in southern Egypt.
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Jul 31, 2009 9:51 AM
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> > But is it deceptive? You (if I understood your
> post
> > correctly) indicated it could be one of at least
> 2-3
> > "gods" depicted. So, in light of this, the
> mystery
> > would be which "god" is depicted.
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> > Of course, you bring up another rather
> interesting
> > question in my mind. Do you think/know that
> the
> > martal saints were actually people from the
> Christian
> > era, or is it possible they were the pagan
> "gods"
> > simply renamed so as to make them more
> "palatable" to
> > the earlier christians?
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> > Of course, my biggest question right now is...
> why
> > are all those threads locked? Including some
> which
> > are recent!
> >
> > LadyC
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> It was simply amazing that just yesterday the
> Military Channel ran a program on the Roman soldiers
> of Hadrian's wall. It was called "Letters from the
> Roman Front" and it had to do with a cohort of
> Batavian auxililaries that occupied Vindolanda at the
> beginning of Hadrian's rule. Excavations there
> discovered a number of letters by these soldiers that
> give us a very good idea of life of frontier troops.
> A nice program to watch if you have this channel.
I don't get the "Military Channel" but I understand it is a part of the discovery channel? So, I might be able to find it on line... Hope so, what you described sounds like great information on Hadrian's Wall.
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