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Everything about the Bruno Heller theatrical production "Rome".
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May 26, 2009 1:54 AM
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Here are a couple of films, both about the legendary lost ninth legion, that may tide us over while we wait for the real thing, ROME: THE MOVIE:
Centurian (2009) The plot is Britain, A.D. 117. Quintus Dias, the sole survivor of a Pictish raid on a Roman frontier fort, marches north with General Virilus' legendary Ninth Legion, under orders to wipe the Picts from the face of the Earth and destroy their leader, Gorlacon. The film hypothesizes that the Ninth was lost fighting the Scots. The cast includes Olga Kurylenko, Dominic West and Michael Fassbender. Written and directed by Neil Marshall.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1020558/
Eagle of the Ninth (2010) In Roman-ruled Britain, a young Roman soldier endeavors to honor his father's memory by finding his lost legion's golden emblem.
Kevin MacDonald directs from a novel by Rosemary Sutcliff, adapted by Jeremy Brock and starring Channing Tatum and Jamie Bell.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034389/
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> First of all,I'm Italian...Sorry for my bad English.
> I'm so happy and I can't wait to see the movie!!! I
> love Rome sooo much!
> And I hate Italian TV,it broadcasted only the first
> season.
Salve Eloare, and welcome to the Rome forum! There are many here who share your enthusiasm for HBO's Rome. Do you have a favorite character?
Nevermind the few BuzzKills that post here. The Rome film has a good chance of being made. Ray Stevenson and Kevin McKidd have both expressed a desire to see it made, and Bruno Heller is keen to fully realize his vision of the story.
I hope that Italian TV does run season 2, but if not perhaps you will get to see the dvd.
AtiaLustii
ps. your English is quite good indeed!
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May 25, 2009 12:36 PM
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Valsmom,
I concur. "Rome" disintegrated in Season 2. It became an extreme parody. It was if the writers thought that they were done with it and now they had to write something again and were straining for a story.
A movie on the Gallic wars lacks the "moral lesson" that Hollywood needs to impart in every movie. The Romans win, the Gauls get slaughtered and so on and so forth. Imperialism works because Gaul becomes peaceful and prosperous. Now, what kind of a moral lesson is this going to be?
I propose an "Asterix" animated movie. It would be more faithful to history than "Rome" and it would be fun.
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May 25, 2009 12:07 PM
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It os time for me to say "Vale" to these boards. I have been posting here since before the series started in 2005 and I don't know if there is anybody left from then.
I chose this thread because I think the idea of "Rome", the movie, is ridiculous. Who's left but Pullo and Vorenus (I prsume he didn't die)? Posca would be ancient and I never liked Simon Ward's Augustus.
In addition the second season was so bad, would they make a better movie? I'm not sure, especially if Heller thought that season 2 was good.
The movie I would like to see would be a prequel - the Gallic wars and what is going on in Rome. They could bring everybody back but then they'd all be too old for their parts.
Therfore, the best solution is to NOT do another movie and let us remember the first season, which I loved, historical inaccuracies and all.
I watch "Rome" OnDemand and I always think the 2nd season was pretty awful.
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May 25, 2009 12:39 AM
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> Except for the Dudley Moore comedy, I can't locate a
> movie named "Arthur" on IMDB and I also missed
> "The Last Legion" (thankfully, since it sounds
> wretched).
Here is the link for "King Arthur"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349683/
and the one for the "Last Legion"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462396/
> Your idea of a potentially successful screenplay
> about Rome sounds very much like "Gladiator"
> a movie of which I'm not too fond. Not only does it
> t stray widely from the historical events, it seems
> very sappy to me - particularly at the end. It did
> reap big bucks though and many awards - mostly
> because of Russell Crowe's popularity, I would say.
The main element of the movie that I liked was the excellent rendition of the reaction of a soldier in proximity to death. Death may be even beckoning, as place of rest and peace for the weary soldier. I thought that this elegiac element was the main attraction of the movie and it was quite well rendered by Russel Crowe. Now, the rest was all gibberish. The main outlines of the plot were derived from the Sophia Lauren-Steven Boyd- Christopher Plummer movie "The Fall of the Roman Empire".
All of these movies were based on the misconception that the Antonines passed succession to the best available successor but this is another stupid myth that Gibbon has perpetrated. In fact, all these emperors passed succession to the closest eligible member of their family. In fact, Antoninus Pius passed on the succession to Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus who had really no distinguished record of governance. There is no record that Marcus Aurelius even thought of the possibility of designating a successor other than his son, Commodus.
But going beyond the history, "Gladiator" was exceptionally poor in reconstructing the Roman world and Rome itself. The final scenes were laughable. At least, "The Fall of the Roman Empire" ends when the office of the emperor was put on auction by the praetorians (although this historical fact happened not after the death of Commodus but the death of Pertinax).
> I wonder if it would be possible today to make a
> movie about Rome without including gladiators? If
> that could be done, it might even be feasible to make
> a film about Australia without dwelling on the
> injustices done to the aboriginals.
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> Neither is likely to happen.
I could not agree more. Modern movies must contain continuous action otherwise they cannot make any money. Thoughtful and involving movies with real plots hardly find any screens to be shown. Maybe a hole of a theater in downtown San Francisco....maybe.
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May 24, 2009 11:28 PM
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>..."Hollywood and Roman history is a recipe for disaster. Has anybody forgotten the last Roman sagas from that factory: "Arthur" and the "Last Legion"??? The only way to pitch a movie successfully to industry is to make it appeal to the demographic that goes to the movies and that would include continuous slaughter and mayhem, a few good explosions (if it can managed), a number of chariot chases (at least) and a minimal plot."
Except for the Dudley Moore comedy, I can't locate a movie named "Arthur" on IMDB and I also missed "The Last Legion" (thankfully, since it sounds wretched).
Your idea of a potentially successful screenplay about Rome sounds very much like "Gladiator" a movie of which I'm not too fond. Not only does it stray widely from the historical events, it seems very sappy to me - particularly at the end. It did reap big bucks though and many awards - mostly because of Russell Crowe's popularity, I would say.
I wonder if it would be possible today to make a movie about Rome without including gladiators? If that could be done, it might even be feasible to make a film about Australia without dwelling on the injustices done to the aboriginals.
Neither is likely to happen.
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May 24, 2009 9:34 PM
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> First of all,I'm Italian...Sorry for my bad English.
> I'm so happy and I can't wait to see the movie!!! I
> love Rome sooo much!
> And I hate Italian TV,it broadcasted only the first
> season.
Hmmmm...I doubt that this movie would ever be made. There are hundreds of movies "in the works". Very few of them are ever made. Considering the fact that a movie nowadays requires a budget of $150 million or so, a "Julius Caesar and Cleopatra" movie is unlikely to be made because the teens that go to see movies are unlikely to head to the theaters for this one. Considering the fact that these "toga" movies are quite expensive to produce, I do not see a compelling business proposition for such a movie, considering the fact that the TV series was a bust.
In any case, I would have loved to see an intelligent movie about the events of the Roman Civil War but I surely hope that such a movie would not be based on the moribound scripts of "Rome" that distorted history to the nth degree. I would love to see a movie in which Julius Caesar is the compelling personality that he really was, not the sleepy, amorous, sly and homicidal non-entity presented in "Rome".
Hollywood and Roman history is a recipe for disaster. Has anybody forgotten the last Roman sagas from that factory: "Arthur" and the "Last Legion"??? The only way to pitch a movie successfully to industry is to make it appeal to the demographic that goes to the movies and that would include continuous slaughter and mayhem, a few good explosions (if it can managed), a number of chariot chases (at least) and a minimal plot.
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First of all,I'm Italian...Sorry for my bad English. I'm so happy and I can't wait to see the movie!!! I love Rome sooo much!
And I hate Italian TV,it broadcasted only the first season.
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Yeah, that interview is from March, 2009. There's also a video interview with KMK in which he talks about possibly filming during the television hiatus (from both The Mentalist which Heller writes and Grey's Anatomy in whick KMK co-stars) next summer (2010) for a possible 2011 release.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJykpzPnL5k&feature=channel_page
And here's my Facebook page. I worry that just because there's a script, it doesn't mean it's a done deal. So I thought a good Facebook page would let the Gods of Film-financing know that the fan base is still there. So come join!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=97645771496
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Salve Mark and Hyker and all the other very loyal Romies.
A little bird told me that it is now up on IMDb Pro and casting has started....Ray and Lee Boardman are cast so far.
Our Nomad created a Facebook page for it. It is due out in 2011.
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What promising news, Mark! Gratias! Please keep us informed!
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Ray Stevenson says Rome movie is on?It?s no longer a rumour??BY James White Mar 18th 2009
Ray Stevenson is going on the record as saying that a film version of the BBC/HBO series Rome is now out of rumour status and crawling through development.
?It is no longer a smoke and mirrors rumour. The script is in full development,? he told Movieweb. ?As you are probably aware, this is a pretty strange process. We could go into production in a year, or it could be as quick as six months. Who knows??
Of course, this is just one of the stars of the show reporting what he?s heard, but it certainly sounds like Stevenson has some knowledge of what?s going on.
But the real news, we?d guess, will come from series co-creator Brunp Heller, which Stevenson admits. ?Bruno is the one writing the movie, thankfully. I don't think anybody else could write the movie. It will be Bruno at the helm. That guy has a soft spot for Pullo and Vorenus. I don't think he will let the ball drop. I don't think he will disappoint.?
Given that Rome was somewhat abruptly cancelled (mostly due to the high cost of shooting in those huge Italian sets), we?d be excited to see more from Stevenson and Kevin McKidd?s Vorenus (above).
But will the final film be able to keep up with the series? boundary-pushing material and still be a marketable release? Only time will tell?
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November 30, 2008
Heller looking for movie version of 'Rome'
The creator of CBS' red-hot procedural "The Mentalist" has unfinished business in Italy.
Bruno Heller says he wants to produce a theatrical wrap-up to his critically beloved and prematurely canceled HBO drama "Rome."
"There is talk of doing a movie version," he said. "It's moving along. It's not there until it is there. I would love to round that show off."
The lavish period drama ran for two seasons on HBO, which co-produced the series with the BBC. With the final season of "The Sopranos" as its lead-in, the first season was solidly rated. But the show's hefty $100 million production cost presented the network with a tough call on the pickup. HBO opted for a second season to help get more value from its initial investment but not a third, effectively canceling the show in summer 2006 before the second season debuted the following January. The "Rome" sets were destroyed, and the actors were released from their contracts, making the network's decision all but irreversible.
But season 2 of "Rome" was a surprise. Although slightly lower rated than the first, the show did much better than HBO expected without its "Sopranos" lead-in (averaging roughly 6.5 million viewers, nearly the same as "True Blood"). Plus it won awards, which is important to a pay network that attracts subscribers by offering premium programming: Post-cancellation, the first season received four Emmy Awards, and then another seven Emmys were heaped upon the final season.
Suddenly "Rome" was a Greek tragedy: a successful show with no future. The broadcast nets quickly snatched up the show's leads for top fall pilots.
HBO executives have since admitted that axing the show probably was a mistake.
One seeming drawback to revisiting the show after its wrap was the demise of a key lead character, Lucius Vorenus (Kevin McKidd). Yet Heller reveals that the character's off-camera fate was far from fatal.
"It was very deliberate that we saw him drifting away but didn't see him atop a funeral pyre," Heller said.
Following his turn starring in NBC's "Journeyman," McKidd is in a recurring role on ABC's "Grey's Anatomy." Fellow "Rome" star Ray Stevenson, after appearing in CBS' "Babylon Fields" pilot, is now in the upcoming big-screen comic book adaptation of "The Punisher." Polly Walker appeared in CBS' short-lived "Cane" and is now cast in Sci Fi's "Caprica." (Also, James Purefoy is the lead in NBC's ambitious "The Philanthropist" project, but the actor's portrayal of Marc Antony concluded in season two.)
A feature revival of a defunct series always is considered difficult, though HBO succeeded with "Sex and the City," and Fox's "Arrested Development" is making progress toward the big screen.
Heller would not discuss plot ideas, but the original series outline for "Rome" next called for the hedonistic Roman leaders to deal with the rise of a certain problematic rabbi -- a story line that would have put a new Roman-perspective spin on the Greatest Story Ever Told and potentially bring "Rome" a larger audience.
"I discovered halfway through writing the second season the show was going to end," Heller said. "The second was going to end with death of Brutus. Third and fourth season would be set in Egypt. Fifth was going to be the rise of the messiah in Palestine. But because we got the heads-up that the second season would be it, I telescoped the third and fourth season into the second one, which accounts for the blazing speed we go through history near the end. There's certainly more than enough history to go around."
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Stevenson: 'Rome' movie is happening
Friday, March 20 2009, 6:44pm EDT
By Simon Reynolds, Movies Editor
Rex Features
Ray Stevenson has confirmed that a movie version of HBO's historical drama Rome will be made.
Speaking to Movieweb, the actor revealed that he will reprise his role as soldier Titus Pullo in the feature film.
"It is no longer a smoke and mirrors rumour," Stevenson said of the movie. "The script is in full development. As you are probably aware, this is a pretty strange process. We could go into production in a year, or it could be as quick as six months. Who knows?
"It will happen. At least it is no longer a rumour. From what I have heard, they are nearing the end of script development. We shall see."
Stevenson added that co-creator Bruno Heller is steering the big screen Rome project, saying: "I don't think anybody else could write the movie. It will be Bruno at the helm. That guy has a soft spot for Pullo and Vorenus. I don't think he will let the ball drop. I don't think he will disappoint."
Rome ran for two seasons on HBO from 2005 to 2007.
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Bruno Heller Hoping for a Rome Feature
Source: The Hollywood Reporter November 30, 2008
Bruno Heller, creator of CBS' hit show "The Mentalist," wants to produce a theatrical wrap-up to his critically acclaimed and prematurely canceled HBO drama "Rome."
"There is talk of doing a movie version," he told The Hollywood Reporter. "It's moving along. It's not there until it is there. I would love to round that show off."
The period drama ran for two seasons on HBO. With the final season of "The Sopranos" as its lead-in, the first season was solidly rated, but high production costs presented the network with a tough call on the pickup. HBO opted for a second season but not a third, effectively canceling the show in summer 2006 before the second season debuted the following January.
Season 2 of "Rome" was a surprise as the show did remarkably well without a "Sopranos" lead-in. HBO executives have since admitted that axing the show probably was a mistake.
The show's Kevin McKidd now has a recurring role on ABC's "Grey's Anatomy." Fellow "Rome" star Ray Stevenson is in Punisher: War Zone, and Polly Walker is cast in SCI FI Channel's "Caprica."
The original series outline for "Rome" next called for the hedonistic Roman leaders to deal with the rise of a certain problematic rabbi.
"I discovered halfway through writing the second season the show was going to end," Heller said. "The second was going to end with death of Brutus. Third and fourth season would be set in Egypt. Fifth was going to be the rise of the messiah in Palestine. But because we got the heads-up that the second season would be it, I telescoped the third and fourth season into the second one, which accounts for the blazing speed we go through history near the end. There's certainly more than enough history to go around."
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