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There are many small human details in "Rome" that I find intriguing and "ring true" . For examples:
(1) When Octavia and Atia are giddily shopping for jewelry in the local mart. The slave (Eleni?) steps in and closes the deal with no nonsense. I've seen that a thousand times as have most of us.
(2) Lucius and Titus look at the stars -- as we all do -- and speculate on their origin. This is a universal human experience, I think.
Any others?
I hope this subject won't deteriorate into a "chat".
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Apr 1, 2007 1:39 AM
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"waxing gibbous" - sounds painful. And expensive.
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 31, 2007 9:19 PM
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April Fools Day, Palm Sunday, and a Full Moon.
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 31, 2007 3:57 PM
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mjmd wrote: "Full moon is upon us."
Yes: We werebeagles suffer from PFMS (Pre-Full Moon Syndrome). It 's a unique affliction symptomized by "itchy ears".
From the U.S. Naval Observatory
Astronomical Applications Department:
"Phase of the Moon on 31 March: waxing gibbous with 97% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated. Full Moon on 2 April 2007 at 10:15 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time."
Moonstruck am…
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 31, 2007 3:42 PM
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mjmd wrote: "Well...I didn't see any flies buzzing around them, so I'm going to have to go with effigies."
I didn't check this out on the finale but -- not to get too gross -- unembalmed and unrefrigerated corpses are not in the cards for a triumphal march. Ughhh!
For this, take the word of…
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 31, 2007 3:39 PM
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*waves* to Beagle. 
Full moon is upon us.
Take care out there....in your human form.
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 31, 2007 3:38 PM
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mjmd -
Bloody good effigies is right! Remember last season when they served up Pompey's head, surrounded by parsley or whatever? That looked so much like Kenneth Cranham I almost fainted. These guys are GOOD.
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 31, 2007 3:21 PM
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Well...I didn't see any flies buzzing around them, so I'm going to have to go with effigies.
Bloody good effigies, though.
That ear on Antony looked real.
But we really didn't get to see much more than that.
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 31, 2007 2:05 AM
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I've talked about this at some length on some other thread. I respecfully maintain that those were effigies in the triumph. This is one of my authorities -
Lucy Hughes-Hallett in "Cleopatra - Histories, Dreams, and Distortions", writes, "When the Roman messengers reached Cleopatra's death chamber they saw her robed and crowned in the guise of Isis. Later when craftsmen were instructed to prepare the 'effigy of Cleopatra dead on her couch' which Dio Cassius tells us was carried in Octavius' Egytpian Triumph, they would have represented her as she had been found, in the regalia of Isis. Michael Grant has suggested, intriguingly, that that effigy may have misled both its first viewers and posterity."
I've watched it again and again. I see stiff, papier mache effigies every time. Let's have a vote. All you who see effigies, raise your right hand.
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 31, 2007 12:58 AM
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> yes he was supposed to be saying something like that,
> to remind him he really was not a god. why wasn't
> his face painted with the bull's blood?
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Dear Star183022, Greetings!!!
That a great question. I do remember that Julius Caesar choose what god he would be for the entire day of his triumph. I believe he chose Jupiter. Then, Octavian smeared his face with, what looked like, blood. I'm wondering, too, why Octavian did not do this, as well. Perhaps some of our learned scholars can shed some light on this.
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 30, 2007 9:27 PM
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> > I am sure the "effigies" in the triumph were the
> real
> > bodies. When they passed by, I could clearly see
> > Mark Antony's ear. Cleo was wearing the same
> dress
> > she died in.
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> > Atia didn't expect that. Her face was amazing.
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> I agree! I thought PW looked better than she ever
> looked in the last episode. Stunning!
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> I am not sure if anyone's mentioned this or not cause
> it's too much to go back through all the posts, but
> has anyone else noticed how different the lighting
> has been in the last 3 or 4 episodes? It amazed me
> that I could actually see Lyde's tears falling from
> her face when Vorenus was dying. Also, you can always
> see pretty clearly beneath Cleo's dress at all all
> times! :P
Yes, I did notice those tears! what a fine detail!
The bodies may have been slaves, but the dress looked just like the one Cleo wore when she died.
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 30, 2007 6:31 PM
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yes he was supposed to be saying something like that, to remind him he really was not a god. why wasn't his face painted with the bull's blood?
i thought the effigies were slaves wearing the death masks. the bodies did not seem decomposed.
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 30, 2007 3:21 PM
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> I am sure the "effigies" in the triumph were the real
> bodies. When they passed by, I could clearly see
> Mark Antony's ear. Cleo was wearing the same dress
> she died in.
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> Atia didn't expect that. Her face was amazing.
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I agree! I thought PW looked better than she ever looked in the last episode. Stunning!
I am not sure if anyone's mentioned this or not cause it's too much to go back through all the posts, but has anyone else noticed how different the lighting has been in the last 3 or 4 episodes? It amazed me that I could actually see Lyde's tears falling from her face when Vorenus was dying. Also, you can always see pretty clearly beneath Cleo's dress at all all times! :P
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 30, 2007 12:14 PM
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mjmd wrote: "Beagle, I hope this doesn't mean that you're leaving us.…"
No, not today. But fading away am…
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 30, 2007 9:43 AM
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> i don't know if the banner was supposed to be a god
> or octavian, but i do know the blue flag banners were
> to honor the naval battle victory. what i noticed
> at the triumph, was that the slave behind octavian,
> holding his laurel crown, was NOT whispering in his
> ear. he was supposed to.
Good Morning, Star183022!!!
I noticed the same thing!!! Wasn't the slave holding the laurel crown behind Octavian supposed to whisper, "Remember, thou are but mortal"?
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Re: Small Details in "Rome"
Mar 30, 2007 4:27 AM
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I think the face on the discs is the same one shown when the doors open and the ladies march out, Atia in the lead. It looks like it's fluttering over the doorway on a white banner. It's just black and white with no coloring. In that shot it looks like a male face.
Maybe this is supposed to be an idealized portrait of Octavian, mixing his features with those of some god.
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