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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 4, 2008 10:24 AM
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Kylie:
I knew that I was going to be able to talk over SATC from
the first episode. This board was a really great place to
discuss the show~not all of the time did people agree.
There have been some great discussions & also some
heated debates over characters on the show.
Sometime people have *agreed to disagree.*
Some website boards are great~ others no so.
Depends upon the show/subject.
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 4, 2008 10:20 AM
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Kylie:
I knew from the very first episode of SATC that I would
be able to go online and talk to with other women and
maybe sone men about it~ and this website has seen
it's fair share of discussions/argurements about the show.
There have been times when people *Have aggreed to
disagree* about things that started on the boards.
Some boards are *nice* and others are really *BAD*~
I won't say which ones.
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 4, 2008 1:47 AM
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Lickteig,
Not sure why you jumped on my case, saying I'm to only enjoy SATC and the movie and that no thinking is to occur. What does that say about us as women? Plus good writers (and there are good writers in this series) no better than to introduce something significant into a series and then just dismiss it. You're comment, it's only fiction just doesn't wash. It might be that Carrie's father abandoning her just didn't matter to you. That all that mattered was that she find happiness and live happily ever after. The problem is (and it doesn't matter if it's in real life or in fiction) if a major impediment is introduced by the writers, then it is only responsible that they follow-up on that, that they not just dismiss it as saying that fathers really don't matter. AND that the father abandonment in Carrie's life would have nothing to do with her behavior. That's simply not being fair. I'm a pscyhotherapist who works with girls and young women, so this is no "psycho-babble"...and it's not analyzing either. It's just noticing when a real screw-up occurs. I've heard a number of people say the same thing I did...and they aren't trained therapists. The girls and young women who have father abandonment (especially as early as age 5) usually act-out in the way Carrie did--and they have major problems in relationships. Perhaps you watched the show to SEE the acting out and to hope that all would be resolved with a happy ending. That's quite strange to me and strange for American women to even buy into. Carrie's "stuff" was not what we all go through...we all don't have fathers who left us at 5 and we never knew why. By bringing that part in the writers did the character and the viewers a disservice, I think. Why can't my opinion be respected? Why must it be dismissed as ridiculous or overanalytical. I know many people (and they aren't therapists) who were bothered by the same thing. Carrie being with Mr. Big isn't going to solve her loneliness or sadness issues, or her problems in relationships. Those issues will still plague here. Maybe the writers could bring this into the sequel. It would make for a richer movie, that's for sure.
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 4, 2008 1:31 AM
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Licktieg,
Not sure why you think that fictional writers shouldn't do their research and shouldn't follow through on significant information that they put in a show. It's not really even analyzing...it's just taking note. If something jumps out at you as way off track, then the writer(s) have missed something. I wouldn't call what I wrote psycho-babble either. I am a licensed psychotherapist who works with adolescent girls and young women. If a young woman (or girl) tells me (and they have) about abandonment by a parent then I know it's significant. I don't have to analyze a thing. Just because something is fiction doesn't mean that the writer(s) can just write anything--and that it doesn't have to make any sense at all just because it's fiction or even fantasy. I guess you could say then that anyone who is psychologically minded as a matter of course then would see this glaring issue that isn't dealt with. The girls/young women who I've worked (often years with) have very similar problems to Carrie. What I have a major problem with (whether fiction or not) is when a writer presents a glaring issue and then ignores it--acts as if it isn't important. And the message of Carrie's columns were usually pretty good and meaningful. The glaring issue (Carrie's early abandonment by her father that was sprung on the viewers in season 4 and then settled basically by saying that fathers don't matter, well, I think that's a problem.) Maybe you just got so into the singlehood (important), the solidarity of the women (really great) but you didn't care why they might be having relationship issues--especially Carrie in this instance. The writer brushed off her problem as if it was the normal thing that we all have--that all our fathers walk out on us...or if they did, it wouldn't make a difference. We know that's bunk. It takes NO analyzing to know that. Maybe you just wanted to see the falling in love and happily ever after stuff and you are into that. What I'm saying that you're not respecting at all is that once a person has the kind of trauma that Carrie did (and the writer(s) brought it into the story, then not even "Mr. Big" can fill that emptiness and hurt. It's gotta at least make some since to me even, as I said, if it's a cartoon (and there are many clever cartoons that make sense and have writers that are fair to their characters and viewers.)
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 3, 2008 8:12 PM
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I agree with you Maggie. There are a lot of shows I enjoy and never miss but I honestly never thought about going out to the websites and discussing the show with others online. It is a lot of fun to do that when you get a chance but it wasn't something that popped first and foremost into my mind.
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 3, 2008 5:03 PM
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YES, and Yes and yes, the movie was just the thing for the year of 2008. The fashion was out of this world for all four of the gals. To become of a certain age and be single was not a problem for Samantha, and thats what this show does best.
Converting a pointing bad finger to a up-ward up-yours I look fabulous and so does my bank account, (oh yea) BITCH!! LMAO
I laughed, cried and and did not blink for one moment....can't wait for the DVD.
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 2, 2008 10:27 PM
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I have always been a fan, but I also keep to myself a lot. I don't like internet chats, and I don't 'hang out' online with others, except far away family and friends I have known for years.
I am a great fan of House as well. I have watched that from the 1st episode. It's my current fave. I have never gone to the website, though.
I agree it would have been nice to talk to some long-time fans back when SATC was on. But it is also nice to meet them now, and share our love of the show with them. That it has remained with so many for so long is a testament to how good it really was.
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 2, 2008 3:35 PM
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> Laracroft:
> My *annoiance* at these newbies is this:
> If they watched the show from the beginning then how
> come they didn't post before~ they make it sound as
> if the show is *new to them*?????
> And where are all of the *oldtimers"????
> Where's "No1nothfan,Mysteriesfan"????
There is no need for annoyance though Marl. Just because they weren't here doesn't make them any less of a fan. I have no idea where the other posters are. I am sure they may be too busy or maybe have computer glitches that don't allow them to be here.
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 2, 2008 3:23 PM
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Laracroft:
My *annoiance* at these newbies is this:
If they watched the show from the beginning then how come they didn't post before~ they make it sound as
if the show is *new to them*?????
And where are all of the *oldtimers"????
Where's "No1nothfan,Mysteriesfan"????
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 2, 2008 1:16 PM
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I agree that it ended exactly the way it should have at least with Big and Carrie. We waited 10 years to see him propose and see them married. It was about time.
I didn't like the way Samantha ended. It didn't seem likely to me that she would have actually left Smith. She said she loved him, she was 50 and there she was with a much younger adoring man...why wasn't that enough?
I suppose she would rather be alone, though how many women would choose that after a lifetime of so many men and then finding the right one? I think this was the only ending that was off kilter.
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 2, 2008 3:48 AM
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*****
The Sex and The City Movie was sooooo everything I expected and more. The fashion was out of this world. All the charaters looked great. The whole story of the movie was like watching about two hours of a (SATC). Big ups to SJP for her creative work she put into the project. I'm sad it finally came to an end however, it ended the way it should have.
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 1, 2008 11:57 PM
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Ummm...OK! (as in the way Miranda would reply and the look she would give to this...haha  That's my response to that "letter"posted. ANYWAY...
Yes, I AM a 'faithful viewer' from the beginning; I have every episode on DVD, and watch them whenever I can -- (my hubby and I have 5 kids, so that's not always possible)..
Correct, I have not logged onto this discussion til now; I'm not exactly one that has the time to do this, I just was so excited about getting out and going to see this SATC movie last eve, that I felt the urge to log on to this site. I did not think that I would find such psycho-babble on it in regards to the show. That's why I posted what I did the other eve. I really don't think that SATC was about anything else other than 4 women looking for the partner they want to spend their life with. Over thinking and over anaylzing it takes away from the fact that it's a FICTIONAL tv show that's meant to be enjoyed, not torn apart piece by piece to read into how each character has been "damaged" throughout their life. I have read numerous interviews/quotes from Sarah Jessica Parker, Kim Cattrell, Darren Starr,Michael Patrick King etc - even Candace Bushnell -- and they all say, yes, of course, they wanted to tap into the reality of what women feel and what women go through -- but the series was to be about dating, friends, family, work, and, of course, finding that "one true love".
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 1, 2008 10:53 AM
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> Lickteig:
> I see that this is your first post yet you say that
> you
> are/were a *faithful SATC viewer from day 1"
> if that's the case why is this the first time you've
> been
> on these boards~I would've liked to spoke with you
> while the show was on HBO.
Marlene, just because someone didn't post here back when the show was on, doesn't mean they weren't a fan. Maybe they didn't know about the boards or maybe they didn't have access to a computer.
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Re: The Movie - Was it everything you expected?
Jul 1, 2008 10:24 AM
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Lickteig:
I see that this is your first post yet you say that you
are/were a *faithful SATC viewer from day 1"
if that's the case why is this the first time you've been
on these boards~I would've liked to spoke with you
while the show was on HBO.
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Re: The Movie - What are you expecting?
Jun 30, 2008 11:16 PM
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Marin,
I agree with all you said here...did you watch the series? There is one episode (hidden away in season 4) that tells you what needed to be explored more with Carrie, but the writers wouldn't allow it evidently--Carrie's father left her and her mother when Carrie was 5, Carrie never knew WHY he left and never saw or heard from him again. So the relationship problems are particular to her situation but the show (and movie) present them as universal. (All dads are absent?) No wonder Carrie went into a catatonic depression after Big stood her up at the wedding. No wonder she was drawn to "BIG" in the first place. Geez. The writers fouled up here on this one in a huge way.
Used to be a fan...no more.
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