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Re: Sex & the City Sequel Secrets Revealed!
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> I don't much care what they do with Big and Carrie as
> long as cheating on either side is not part of the
> equation. They are simply BEYOND that in character
> growth. True, real people backslide in real life.
> But if we wanted THAT would we even be watching this
> s show? Come on; we all know it's one step above
> Fantasy Island. But I love, love, love it anyway!
> And I've never enjoyed watching people making
> g themselves miserable over misunderstandings or
> their own mistakes. There's enough stuff that
> happens to people that is out of their
> control....their own behavior is the one thing they
> can rein in! It's only natural that the economy
> would factor into the new show...it's hitting
> everyone hard. The trick here is to write something
> for our characters that is believable, fresh, and
> uplifting as we welcome our "girls" back to the big
> screen.
I wouldn't worry about cheating from Big or Carrie..............just wont happen, they both have too much vested and realistically in spite of how crazy people are, many mature people chose not to have some cheap affair and maintain some dignity and integrity. The only sad storyline between Big and Carrie will have to do with their health or the health of their children at this point. I like the Fantasy Island scenario though..........
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Re: Sex & the City Sequel Secrets Revealed!
Oct 11, 2009 11:49 AM
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I don't much care what they do with Big and Carrie as long as cheating on either side is not part of the equation. They are simply BEYOND that in character growth. True, real people backslide in real life. But if we wanted THAT would we even be watching this show? Come on; we all know it's one step above Fantasy Island. But I love, love, love it anyway! And I've never enjoyed watching people making themselves miserable over misunderstandings or their own mistakes. There's enough stuff that happens to people that is out of their control....their own behavior is the one thing they can rein in! It's only natural that the economy would factor into the new show...it's hitting everyone hard. The trick here is to write something for our characters that is believable, fresh, and uplifting as we welcome our "girls" back to the big screen.
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Re: Sex & the City Sequel Secrets Revealed!
Oct 9, 2009 6:52 PM
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> Yes I had heard that too. I'm also seeing lots of
> storyline speculation. NOW I hear that a lot of the
> story will take place somewhere in the Middle East,
> and that will have to do with Samantha. I've also
> heard that Big does NOT cheat (YEAY!) and that
> Stanford & Anthony do indeed marry, with Liza Minelli
> in attendance. AND that Aidan would be back to make
> things interesting for Carrie and Big! I'm really
> getting anxious now! 
Wow, love Stanford, so that should be funny.........
not loving the Big storyline.......but Aidan......ooohh should be good and how about some Berger while they are at it........
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Oct 9, 2009 12:47 PM
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Yes I had heard that too. I'm also seeing lots of storyline speculation. NOW I hear that a lot of the story will take place somewhere in the Middle East, and that will have to do with Samantha. I've also heard that Big does NOT cheat (YEAY!) and that Stanford & Anthony do indeed marry, with Liza Minelli in attendance. AND that Aidan would be back to make things interesting for Carrie and Big! I'm really getting anxious now!
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Oct 8, 2009 5:57 PM
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I hear we have a May 2010 release date
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Re: Sex & the City Sequel Secrets Revealed!
Oct 3, 2009 2:24 PM
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> Here's how I compared Berger to Big, as far as Carrie
> was concerned. In the episode where Carrie wanted
> Big to meet her and her friends at Denial, Big at
> first said ok he'd go. Then when the night arrived,
> it was raining and he wanted to stay home. He asked
> Carrie if it was all right, and she said "yes" even
> though she didn't mean it. And she couldn't look at
> him. She was about to tell her friends that he
> wasn't coming, when suddenly there he was. And
> Carrie lit up the room with her smile, because they
> were "real". This was the night that Miranda decided
> to take a chance with Steve also, and ended up
> kissing him in the rain.
Im watching season six now with the Russian. Remember how he disappointed Carrie as well on his big night to meet the girls, and how after Carrie takes the girsl back to show off the Penthouse, the Russian embarrasses her in front of her friends. Carrie always wanted her friends to love her men as much as she did, and that never happens even in real life. When you think about it...........its probably best that your friends dont love your partner because then they will end up in a place you dont want them to be........ I say there really is no comparison of Berger with Big. Berger was Carries last ditch effort to get over big. She always used other guys to get over Big. Even the Russian. She thought she was going to be so happy in Paris with the Russian, and then when Big showed up on that last night and Carrie tells him you can drive up this street all you want but I dont live here any more..............now that really hurt Big and we were all in tears as we watched. Carries anger showed Big that this was time for desperate measures, last chance to get his girl back, and he needed to be there for Carrie. And he does of course.............
Now to Berger. The night
> they all went to the theatre to see Smith in the play
> (where he was naked....YOWZA!) Berger and Carrie had
> the fight about the bike, and then he sort of made up
> for it by wearing the shirt she got him. As they
> started to enter the theatre, he decided that he
> wasn't in the mood and he'd "just ruin it for
> everyone." He asked her if she was all right getting
> home with the girls and she nodded. Only a blind
> fool would think she meant it. Berger turned his
> back on her and walked away. And unlike Big, he did
> NOT realize his mistake and come through for Carrie
> in the end. He was just gone. And that was when he
> lost me. Big had his faults but he seemed in sync
> with what Carrie needed, when she needed it. To a
> point. The interesting thing was in seeing how far
> she could push him before he backed away.
Yes there were so many times when you watched and you knew Carrie was sabotaging the whole thing with Big and pushing his buttons and not in a good way. Like the time she shows up for Sunday Mass..........so bad and yet so many woman make this kind of mistake with their men..............
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Oct 3, 2009 12:11 AM
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Here's how I compared Berger to Big, as far as Carrie was concerned. In the episode where Carrie wanted Big to meet her and her friends at Denial, Big at first said ok he'd go. Then when the night arrived, it was raining and he wanted to stay home. He asked Carrie if it was all right, and she said "yes" even though she didn't mean it. And she couldn't look at him. She was about to tell her friends that he wasn't coming, when suddenly there he was. And Carrie lit up the room with her smile, because they were "real". This was the night that Miranda decided to take a chance with Steve also, and ended up kissing him in the rain. Now to Berger. The night they all went to the theatre to see Smith in the play (where he was naked....YOWZA!) Berger and Carrie had the fight about the bike, and then he sort of made up for it by wearing the shirt she got him. As they started to enter the theatre, he decided that he wasn't in the mood and he'd "just ruin it for everyone." He asked her if she was all right getting home with the girls and she nodded. Only a blind fool would think she meant it. Berger turned his back on her and walked away. And unlike Big, he did NOT realize his mistake and come through for Carrie in the end. He was just gone. And that was when he lost me. Big had his faults but he seemed in sync with what Carrie needed, when she needed it. To a point. The interesting thing was in seeing how far she could push him before he backed away.
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Re: Sex & the City Sequel Secrets Revealed!
Oct 2, 2009 7:55 PM
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Sex was bad and awkward , did you not remember that..........
Yes. I do remember that. The first few times... until they discovered their groove together in bed.
He didn't get the girlfriends and all the games they played......... and would tell Carrie if he didnt like her friends.
Berger came right out and said that. Big simply avoided them as much as he could. He eventually saw how important her friends were to her and came around. I see that as the difference between maturity and immaturity.
He wanted to take his bike that night, and ruined an outfit that Carrie loved.
He didn't want to go to the event. Taking the bike was his temper tantrum. Maturity and immaturity.
She gave into that and took that ride.
Carrie's a pleaser to her own detriment in her search for love.
That's just how i see it.
Heavy classload, ladies... I won't be posting for while. Have fun! I'll return as the movie draws closer.
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Re: Sex & the City Sequel Secrets Revealed!
Oct 1, 2009 11:51 AM
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I do not care for Miley cyrus either, and she's a minor for pete's sake! How old was she when the show came out...she shouldn't even have been watching it! I liked Jennifer but won't miss her. Her character was expendable. Whitney would be fabulous, and it would be a shot in the arm to her career. But I'm against them adding extraneous characters just because it's politically correct to do so. In 2 hrs, they barely had time to flesh out a story for the characters they had! I'm still ticked off the way they handled the Stanford-minus Marcus story. I can get off on a real rant on that subject, so I'll let it go for now! Moving on!
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Sep 30, 2009 5:27 PM
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I heard today on the news that Mile Cyrus will be the cameo for the movie. I dont consider her worthy of that spot ..........not liking that choice at all. I was a fan of Hudson's in the first but mainly because she played a character and not herself and did a good job at it. I read that the producers want to find a black female because they always thought the show needed some color and Im not a fan of just finding a black woman to be politically correct. I thought Whitney Houston would be exceptional to add to that ensemble. She can sing and act somewhat............ from Bodyguard.
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Sep 30, 2009 1:05 PM
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Yup, one of the hardest thing in a relationship is to "own" your feelings, and let your partner "own" theirs. My 2nd husband tends to be moody, and for a long time I would go bananas trying to find someway to help him get over it, AND blame myself for the down cycle. Finally I realized his moods are HIS and I'm not responsible for them. I'm supportive when he's down, but if he broods, he needs to work it out himself. Re: SATC, I'm eager to glean whatever snippets of info on the coming movie I can get. So far, other than the "Big cheats" possibility, the hints have been intriguing.
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Sep 30, 2009 8:17 AM
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> Aidan's coldness to her lasted just until he decided
> to forgive her. THEN the shoe was on the other foot
> once again. Once she was back in "the nook" she
> became unsure again as to whether he was "the one".
> SATC was obsessed with people finding "the one".
> . Another part of the fantasy. I don't know if I
> believe that true love never dies. I was married for
> 10 years to my first husband before he decided he
> liked men better than women. My heart was broken and
> my life destroyed. It was all I could do to keep
> myself sane for my 2 children's sake. Does that mean
> that since I fell in love again and remarried that my
> first love wasn't true? I don't believe that. And
> my ex hasn't had a happy life, and claims to still
> love me. I've been married to my 2nd husband 24
> years and I love him more every day. This is true
> love to me. Hopefully it will last forever. Carrie
> and Big were at a place at the end of the series
> where they should be able to be happy. Life messes
> with you, that's true. But how you react to the
> curve balls shows what you are made of. And I'd like
> to think that Big is "bigger" than the kind of man
> who will fall into another woman's arms just because
> he's had some financial hardship. He's 50 years old
> for pete's sake, and it took his whole adult life to
> grow enough to realize that Carrie was the love of
> his life! Please, writers, give your fans some
> credit for being able to think this stuff through.
> Find some other storyline for our beloved characters.
In your situation it very very hard not to at some point try and blame yourself for your ex's mishaps, but he was sort of feeding off of your strength and clung to you for that strength when he knew he wasn't being truthful or faithful. This is why he hasnt had such a good life, and why you ended up with the better life. If you put good out then good will come back to you, and if you put bad out there then bad comes back to you. Your dilemma is to just keep being good to your ex for the sake of your kids. He has made is choices and he needs to try and follow through with them in a good way and not hurt others. But will he learn his lesson. Not for your worries any more...........
I think we have passed SATC 101, and are ready for the advanced courses.
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Sep 29, 2009 7:37 PM
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Aidan's coldness to her lasted just until he decided to forgive her. THEN the shoe was on the other foot once again. Once she was back in "the nook" she became unsure again as to whether he was "the one". SATC was obsessed with people finding "the one". Another part of the fantasy. I don't know if I believe that true love never dies. I was married for 10 years to my first husband before he decided he liked men better than women. My heart was broken and my life destroyed. It was all I could do to keep myself sane for my 2 children's sake. Does that mean that since I fell in love again and remarried that my first love wasn't true? I don't believe that. And my ex hasn't had a happy life, and claims to still love me. I've been married to my 2nd husband 24 years and I love him more every day. This is true love to me. Hopefully it will last forever. Carrie and Big were at a place at the end of the series where they should be able to be happy. Life messes with you, that's true. But how you react to the curve balls shows what you are made of. And I'd like to think that Big is "bigger" than the kind of man who will fall into another woman's arms just because he's had some financial hardship. He's 50 years old for pete's sake, and it took his whole adult life to grow enough to realize that Carrie was the love of his life! Please, writers, give your fans some credit for being able to think this stuff through. Find some other storyline for our beloved characters.
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Sep 28, 2009 7:12 PM
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Remember how good Aiden looked to her he was in great shape and was moving on with life .........She saw him differently.......... He was cold and like Big towards her............ He didn't want to get back and when she thought he wasn't going to get back with her she wanted him even more...........He, of course gave her that second chance and she thought things were going to be different, but they were the same if not worse.
I actually think Carrie was bigger than Big for Aiden..............yes, he never got over her and Nina was testiment of that...........Aiden loved Carrie more than she loved him and that can only work if the woman can learn to find respect and gratitude in that love. Carrie was very selfish and only wanted what she wanted....
Yes, your take on Big is dead on but I too didnt let it bother me from thinking he was the greatest thing, and I am a huge Carrie /Big fan..........even though they are always off sync, when the are on sync its greatness..........
I guess if a love becomes dead love then it really never was a great love......... If a love becomes dead love it was just a great lesson of love............ I think true love never dies..........
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jrenai: I agree with some of your post. But Carrie didn't just "take Aidan back" the 2nd time....she campaigned to get him back! She pursued him and begged for forgiveness. I always thought that was selfish of her, because by this time she KNEW what he was about and how much he had loved her. She didn't have enough introspection to realize that she couldn't give Aidan what he wanted and needed, and that she would hurt him again. IN a way, SHE was "Big" to Aidan! I always wondered if he really got over her with his wife Kathy and baby, or if he "settled". In regards to Big, I don't think he had a clue how much he could potentially hurt Carrie. When she went to San Francisco and he was obsessing about her book he said "I finally got how much I hurt you." He was always so into HIMSELF that her feelings and potential heartbreak were not on his radar at all. It was out of sight, out of mind for him. When he went to Paris and was so totally uninterested in whether she came or not, you'd think she would have suspected another woman then. But all she focused on was the fact that he was pushing her away, and that she was allowing herself to be hurt again. Then when she saw him with Natasha in the Hamptons, the puzzle pieces fell into place. He probably felt a little guilty, but it didn't stop him from going ahead with his marriage to Natasha. It's not that he knew or didn't know that he was hurting Carrie....she wasn't a factor at all. He was always about himself. The "fantasy" for me was in liking his character anyway, and hoping for change and maturity. By the end of the Tv series, I finally thought he had come to a realization that Carrie really was the "love of his life" and I could visualize them being happy because they were at a place where they would cling to each other, no matter what problems from the outside assailed them. That's why I'm against a "Big cheats on Carrie" storyline. It's a major step back in the growth of the character, and NOT believable to me. And even if they could sell it to me somehow, her forgiving him is out of the question for me. My mother told me when I was young that "Nothing is deader than a dead love" but I had to experience it myself to really know that. I "can't help but wonder" if any of the writers on SATC have ever been in love and had it end. They don't seem to know what they are talking about sometimes.
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