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The allegiance of those closest to Tony is put to the test. Meanwhile, a case of mistaken identity has serious ramifications.
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Mar 6, 2008 12:55 PM
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I have been a fan of The Sopranos and The Wire from their very start, and only at the end of both series do they're epic scope become realized.
When I first saw The Sopranos series finale, I was as confused as everyone else as to the meaning of the ending. THEN, I watched the first season again, and it all became clear...
The Sopranos is about one thing above all others, TONY SOPRANO, and the sickness from which he suffers. Tony is a combination of his father's passion, loyalty, and zeal for life, while at the same time, he suffers from what his mother suffered from: a hole so deep down and black inside of him, that the only way he can fill it, is to destroy (kill) off those closest to him, and in essence, kill off parts of himself.
At this point, your probably asking, where is my evidence for any of this? Well, to see the big picture, we have to start from the beginning. The first time we meet Tony, he witnesses some ducks, floating in his pool. The ducks touch Tony inside himself somewhere deep down, only to fly away and never return. This moment leads us to what will eventually be Tony's complete, personal downfall, much like Michael Corleone's (after Godfather II), only much more in depth.
From the first season on, Tony deals with his business, enemies from within his organization, his family life, and most of all, himself. At the end of season 1, after Tony's mother tried to have him killed, Dr. Melfi describes Livia (his mother) as having a disorder from which she derives no joy from life, and manipulates those close to her against each other. Listen closely, because while she is describing Livia, she is describing really Tony.
Now I get to what I call, "The Blackness". Throughout the series, we have watched as Tony has murdered many of those closest to him. When Tony murdered Pussy, it is important to note how sick he got before the deed, because it reveals its true nature in the last season. In the first season, in the episode, Boca, Tony stumbles into the house one night, in glee, because he had let Meadow's high school soccer teacher live, after it had become known he slept with a girl on the team, but more importantly, he is happy because "He didn't hurt nobody". This is one of the few moments of the show when Tony is relieved from himself, because further down his life, he will hurt and destroy many more lives.
Back to "The Blackness", there is an episode in the last season, where Tony contemplates killing Paulie, not for anything Paulie has done, but simply because he has an urge to. This urge to kill Paulie, manifests itself in physical symptoms of distress again, while Tony is on a boat with Paulie, fighting against his instincts to murder his friend. At the end of the episode, Paulie experiences a dream, where Big Pussy is cooking in Paulie's kitchen, and warns Paulie that he could be next.
Now to the thick of it. Tony's "Fredo" moment, when he kills Christopher. Christopher in many ways is the person closest to Tony, perhaps even more than his own son, because he shares the life that Tony lives, and relates to him in a way A.J. can't. After suffering a horrific car crash on the way back from a meeting with the New York crew, Tony kills Christopher in the most brutal way: he pinches Christopher's nose shut, while Christopher bleeds internally at the steering wheel, suffocating him to death. Tony makes the decision right then and there, as if he is experimenting with fate, and the consequences of his actions. During the episode, Tony shows no remorse, and during a trip to one of Christopher's mistresses in Nevada, Tony gets high on an exotic pepper, and declares while standing in the Nevada desert, that he "gets it." But what does Tony finally understand?
Here it is, he understands his own sickness. There is something inside of him, a darkness, which has dictated his life, and its main urge is to destroy those closest to him, perhaps as a way of punishing himself. It is Tony confronting his ID, the driving force inside him, that Dr. Melfi could never help. All those connected to Tony, are in constant danger.
THE LAST SCENE- The last scene is not meant to be taken literally, it is meant to be a reminder of Tony's life. The black guys in the diner represent the two black men hired to kill Tony, by Junior. The man in the jacket at the bar, represent many of Tony's past sins and crimes against others in the mob, and the constant threat of revenge against him because of it. The father of the kids with the FBI hat is self explanatory. What lingers most of all though in the scene, is death, or otherwise, "The Darkness". It looms over every shot, and pierces the scene like a knife. Why? Because now that Tony has killed almost all those closest to him, the people who are now in the greatest danger, are his immediate family. The death seems to loom over Meadow the most, who perhaps Tony loves the most. Tony's love is a curse to the receiver of it. When they eat the onion rings, it resembles last communion, because Carmela and A.J. have both compromised their lives for the splendors of Tony's crimes. In the end, Sylvio lies in a coma, in a state of uncertain future. Paulie is in constant danger. Tony's family is in danger too. The last shot is of Tony's face, and then the darkness, which boils inside of Tony, and spreads out as the hand of death to all those associated with him.
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Mar 1, 2008 2:49 PM
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> Man, I can hardly wait until episode 86 comes
> out....I wonder what is going to happen.....I hope
> its something that will get people talking....
OMG i just saw it! WTF was that!! 
TiM
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Feb 29, 2008 11:22 PM
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Man, I can hardly wait until episode 86 comes out....I wonder what is going to happen.....I hope its something that will get people talking....
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Feb 29, 2008 11:19 PM
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Edited by SDMattt at 02/29/2008 8:20 PM
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Feb 29, 2008 7:48 PM
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The blue comet is my favorite episode. Just the way bobby got killed gave me chills. I was very sad about christopher's death even though he had some violence problems. I just loved the merciless shooting in the blue comet. It was awesome. I have never been so pushed to the edge of my seat when watching TV. I was basically stirring at the tv. I don't even think I blinked once, and my heart kept pounding hard and all I was thinking was what's gonna happen next. The sopranos is not just a tv show. Sometimes, I have to convince my self that it is a tv show just so that I don't keep thinking about how interesting it was and how everyone kept getting shot. Silvio is a pretty tough guy. I always knew it, but he was kind of slow in getting his gun,and that was what hurt him. The sopranos. I love it
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Jul 15, 2007 2:11 PM
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Really...guess I was wrong and never researched it enough...you really know your stuff...are you affiliated with the show? Thanks for the clarification. My best friends buddy from the Bronx had a nice reoccurring roll in the last two seasons.
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Jul 13, 2007 9:36 PM
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> Has anyone noticed as I did in the last scene that
> the guy in the Members Only jacket who walks in the
> dinner next to AJ is the same actor who plays "Johnny
> Boy" Tony's father in many episodes?
> Also, in the last episode when Tony visits Uncle
> June; the black guy in the doorway of the state
> facility is the same actor who plays the "Cop" that
> pulls Tony and Carmella over and ends up selling PVC
> pipe? Just wondering if you die hard fans are as
> astute as I?
1) Johnny Boy Soprano was played by Joseph Siravo.
Man in Members Only Jacket was played by Paolo Colandrea.
2) The Orderly was played by Tony White.
Veteran actor Charles S. Dutton played Officer Leon Wilmore in Another Toothpick.
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Jul 12, 2007 5:14 PM
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Has anyone noticed as I did in the last scene that the guy in the Members Only jacket who walks in the dinner next to AJ is the same actor who plays "Johnny Boy" Tony's father in many episodes?
Also, in the last episode when Tony visits Uncle June; the black guy in the doorway of the state facility is the same actor who plays the "Cop" that pulls Tony and Carmella over and ends up selling PVC pipe? Just wondering if you die hard fans are as astute as I?
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Jul 9, 2007 4:49 PM
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i got into the show when i saw my parents watching it 5 years ogo. i thought it was the coolest thing, i bought the 1st season and watched it when my parents werent around.everf since then i loved it. i feel SAD that there will never be another episode. im 15 i think that they should continue the show. i understand that they had to end it sometime but not like this.
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Jun 16, 2007 9:32 PM
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> Has anyone thought about something more simple that
> may have happened to Tony? Anybody think about what
> the man was doing when everything went "black"? Has
> anybody thought that maybe the man had a heart attack
> while eating his onion rings?
good junior impersonation !!
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Jun 15, 2007 11:18 PM
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Has anyone thought about something more simple that may have happened to Tony? Anybody think about what the man was doing when everything went "black"? Has anybody thought that maybe the man had a heart attack while eating his onion rings?
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Jun 15, 2007 11:18 PM
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Has anyone thought about something more simple that may have happened to Tony? Anybody think about what the man was doing when everything went "black"? Has anybody thought that maybe the man had a heart attack while eating his onion rings?
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Jun 15, 2007 11:17 PM
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Has anyone thought about something more simple that may have happened to Tony? Anybody think about what the man was doing when everything went "black"? Has anybody thought that maybe the man had a heart attack while eating his onion rings?
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Jun 15, 2007 11:16 PM
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Has anyone thought about something more simple that may have happened to Tony? Anybody think about what the man was doing when everything went "black"? Has anybody thought that maybe the man had a heart attack while eating his onion rings?
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Re: Episode 85: The Blue Comet
Jun 15, 2007 2:57 PM
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Just wanted to log on and give a sort of "told you so"
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/15/television.sopranos.reut/index.html
Well, it's obvious that his life was over.
Obvious to you. It seems clear to me that it wasn't. Our view into Tony's life was over, and that was what was abruptly terminated. Phil was the one who had personal issues with Tony, and Phil was dead. Butch thought things had gone too far and had already sounded Phil out about "reaching out" to Tony before cutting his own deal.
> It was an artistic way of saying....game over....life
> over...show over.
It was an artistic way of saying that our look at his life was over. The audience was whacked - out of the blue, when we least expected it, just the way Bobby described it.
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