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Episode 86: Made In America

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This week, Dr. Melfi has cut her ties, Silvio's in a coma, and Bobby has been derailed - now, there is no more hiding. Don't miss The Final Episode of the groundbreaking series The Sopranos, Sunday at 9 pm.

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Last Post Jul 19, 2007 2:53 AM by: du324
koozomano
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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 18, 2007 6:35 PM
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> > > omigod, people. are you all watching this
> > trainwreck
> > > over on the official threads? the poor little
> > > fucktards are trying to debate national

> healthcare
> > > now.
> > >
> > > shitme.
> > >
> > > it's like watching 2-year-olds try to build a

> > watch
> > > ...
> > >
> > > --
> > > The wrong person hears about this, and I get a
> > > steel-jacketed anti-depressant right to the back

> > of
> > > the head.
> >
> >
> > ALLIE !!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > where ya been paisan ?

>
>
> Hey Kooz! Good to see you. I been layin' low, you get
> my PM with the parody story?
>
> --
> The wrong person hears about this, and I get a
> steel-jacketed anti-depressant right to the back of
> the head.



hahaha i did but to be honest i thought it was real for a moment there did u write that ?

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http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=650610
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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 18, 2007 6:33 PM
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> > omigod, people. are you all watching this
> trainwreck
> > over on the official threads? the poor little
> > fucktards are trying to debate national healthcare
> > now.
> >
> > shitme.
> >
> > it's like watching 2-year-olds try to build a

> watch
> > ...
> >
> > --
> > The wrong person hears about this, and I get a
> > steel-jacketed anti-depressant right to the back

> of
> > the head.
>
>
> ALLIE !!!!!!!!!!
>
> where ya been paisan ?



Hey Kooz! Good to see you. I been layin' low, you get my PM with the parody story?

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The wrong person hears about this, and I get a steel-jacketed anti-depressant right to the back of the head.
koozomano
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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 18, 2007 6:21 PM
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> omigod, people. are you all watching this trainwreck
> over on the official threads? the poor little
> fucktards are trying to debate national healthcare
> now.
>
> shitme.
>
> it's like watching 2-year-olds try to build a watch
> ...
>
> --
> The wrong person hears about this, and I get a
> steel-jacketed anti-depressant right to the back of
> the head.



ALLIE !!!!!!!!!!

where ya been paisan ?

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you probably dont even hear it when it happens

http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=650610
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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 18, 2007 6:19 PM
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omigod, people. are you all watching this trainwreck over on the official threads? the poor little fucktards are trying to debate national healthcare now.

shitme.

it's like watching 2-year-olds try to build a watch ...

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The wrong person hears about this, and I get a steel-jacketed anti-depressant right to the back of the head.
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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 18, 2007 5:50 PM
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"So easy, a therapist can do it".
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Jun 18, 2007 5:43 PM
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Hi. I had never seen the show, but I think I have a good explanation of what happened in the final scene.

The idea is to examine the reactions of people to the finale, and then interpret why specific people would have a specific reaction.

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/06/the_sopranos_finale_explained.html

I think this psychological approach is legitimate, given the huge hold the show had over people, and the overt references to psychiatry, etc.

Comments appreciated.
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Jun 18, 2007 1:04 PM
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> > It's a bit early for irony isn't it Lloyd?
> >
> > Tell us more of the political teachings of Paulie
> > Walnuts
> >

>
> Very funny B.D.
> Maybe Paulie was onto something.
> It was just his way and mine of saying...ENOUGH
> ALREADY!
> Save it for the classroom or the bathrooom.
>
> Actually Being There was a very good movie and
> not far fron the truth.


Thomas franklin: It's that gardener.
Johanna, girl with Franklin: Yes, Chauncey Gardiner.
Thomas Franklin: No, he's a real gardener.
Johanna, girl with Franklin: He does talk like one. I think he's brilliant.

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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 18, 2007 12:24 PM
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Jeez, just when I thought we were through with this crap.
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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 18, 2007 12:20 PM
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Since we now know that the "Jesus last days" theme is central to the Sopranos, and we know that Carlo was Judas, who denied Tony more than once?(as Peter did with Jesus)..Paulie..make sense?.

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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 17, 2007 5:39 PM
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But is there something deeper going on as we say goodbye to Tony and Harry (or any other fictional characters to whom we have become attached on the page or the screen)? After all, the million-megaphone effect of the Internet now allows us to insert ourselves into the consciousness of authors and TV auteurs, to become, in a way, part of the story as it unfolds over years and years. What, then, are the stakes for us ?

“With something like 'The Sopranos' and 'Harry Potter,' where people have made a strong investment over the years, there's a sense of mourning and of grief,” says Jason Mittell, who teaches media studies at Middlebury College. “But if it works well, there's also a sense of conclusiveness, and a reminder that you can't have life without death.”

Yet the eminent Harvard psychiatrist and author Robert Jay Lifton says that while endings are an inevitable and even necessary stage of human and narrative development, they still deliver a substantial blow to the psyche. “We have a difficult time with endings, because they seem absolute and can be associated with a kind of hopelessness, that there's nothing beyond in which to find meaning or solace,” says Lifton.

“Endings are associated with separation, which can be a profound psychological matter, and ultimately with death,” Lifton adds. However, he says, “We can better accept endings when there is significant meaning that we derive from that narrative or that experience that has ended. ... In reading a powerful book or having any experience with a work of art, the book or film ends, but it reverberates in us, and in that way, continues.”

The way it ends, though, can have a pronounced bearing on the way it reverberates.

http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=b375b5ba-bb00-4821-8b9a-03cf216ba2d2

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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 16, 2007 9:51 AM
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Better yet..
When they "embrace" Paulie takes out a long knofe and cuts into Uncle Junior's chest sltting him open like a tin can.
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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 16, 2007 12:51 AM
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Here is how the final scene should have ended. This would have brought closure and left something open to interpretation at the same time.

Tony, Carmela and AJ are sitting at the table, meadow opens the door the screen goes black and a few gunshots are heard. The screen reamins blank for a few more seconds.

Cut to a the Nurisng Home where Uncle Junior lives. Uncle Junior is sitting in a chair looking out the window. Paulie Walnuts enters and approaches Junior. Junior turns to Paulie and says "is it done?" Paulie replies "yes." They embrace. When the start embracing Frank Sinatra's classic "My Way" is heard. Then Roll closing credits.
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Jun 16, 2007 12:27 AM
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Sopranos on a yacht..

http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2007/06/sopranos_finale_controversy_th.html

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Re: Episode 86: Made In America

Jun 15, 2007 6:23 PM
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Intriguing scene-
is the one where Tony is standing just inside the diner door, and looks over the diner crowd, a funny look on his face, then suddenly he is in the crowd, while the song All You Dream plays in the background..

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Jun 14, 2007 12:11 PM
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Dream..
yes, there is evidence for that.. 1. episode 86 was a bonus episode.. 2. the room Tony slept in looked different from when he fell asleep to when he woke up, and he was wearing different clothes 4. the song that is playing when he walks in the diner is "All That You Dream" by Little Feat.. 5. he looks at the diner crowd, and then suddenly he's in there..why did Chase shoot it that way?.. 6. no one talks about Phil's death, after it happened..why?

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