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The "Lost Beatles Albums" -- Create Your Own!

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The "Lost" Beatles Albums -- Create Your Own!


I noticed some discussions previously about who was the more talented artist or the greater composer -- John Lennon or Paul McCartney.

Many have said it was Lennon, but that choice, I think, was tilted heavily by the fact that, in the '80s, after Lennon was gone, McCartney put out a series of albums that were mostly forgettable in that they were full of sappy, lightweight pop tunes.

But, Lennon's last coule of solo albums were pretty mediocre, too. Pleasant enough, but they lacked the intensity, emotional depth and wit of his Beatles-era work and his early-'70s solo work. So who knows? He might have continued a run of less-than-brilliant records like Paul did had he lived into the 1980s

But during their Beatles era, I would say that Paul and John were equally talented composers.

So, since the games now have their own page, and since they are mostly about entertainment (music, movies, TV), I thought this could be an interesting game / discussion:

I thought I would create two "Lost Beatles Albums" out of the songs from the first few solo albums that John, Paul, George and Ringo put out after the Beatles broke up -- and see who agrees or disagrees with my choices, and invite folks to "create their own 'Lost' albums" if they desired

These songs were from the solo albums from from the 1970-'73 era

I pretended they had the longer CD format -- and that it they were both double albums -- for more leeway and inclusiveness.

Here would be my choices:

Album No 1: "The Black Album"

1) Well, Well, Well, John
2) Let Me Roll It, Paul
3) What Is Life, George
4) It Don't Come Easy, Ringo
5) Imagine, John

6) Helen Wheels, Paul
7) Wah Wah, George
8) Working Class Hero, John
9) Admiral Halsey, Paul
10) My Sweet Lord, George

11) Photograph, Ringo
12) Jealous Guy, John
13) Too Many People, Paul
14) Awaiting on You All, George
15) Gimme Some Truth, John


Album No. 2: "Goodbye, Goodbye"

1) Too Many People, Paul
2) Apple Scruffs, George
3) Mind Games, John
4) Maybe I'm Amazed, Paul
5) Isn't It a Pity, George

6) Mother, John
7) Every Night, Paul
8) If Not For You, George
9) Oh Yoko, John
10) Smile Away, Paul

11) Give Me Love, George
12) How Do You Sleep, John
13) Nineteen Hundred Eighty Five, Paul
14) Beware of Darkness, George
15) Bip Bop, Paul


So, thoughts? Songs you would delete or add? If you could "create" your own albums, what would be on them? Do I have some on my first album you would put on the second, and vice versa?

And, thoughts about who was the superior composer / artist?

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Apr 22, 2008 12:02 AM
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Well, you're 100% wrong, but that's not a surprise.
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Apr 21, 2008 11:55 PM
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i'm pretty sure it was opinion...honeyB-)
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Apr 21, 2008 11:50 PM
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It is simply a statement of FACT, dear.

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Apr 21, 2008 11:49 PM
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>Bob Dylan is a genius. Only a complete idiot would ignore his writing.



why that isn't nice...we're all adults here, name calling because someone doesn't have the same views as you is quite infantile don't you think?
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Apr 21, 2008 11:46 PM
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Here, this news is all of 2 weeks old...

Apr 8, 2008

Bob Dylan Wins a Pulitzer Prize

NEW YORK (AP) ? Thanks to Bob Dylan, rock 'n' roll has finally broken through the Pulitzer wall. Dylan, the most acclaimed and influential songwriter of the past half century, who more than anyone brought rock from the streets to the lecture hall, received an honorary Pulitzer Prize on Monday, cited for his "profound impact on popular music and American culture, marked by lyrical compositions of extraordinary poetic power."

It was the first time Pulitzer judges, who have long favored classical music, and, more recently, jazz, awarded an art form once dismissed as barbaric, even subversive.

"I am in disbelief," Dylan fan and fellow Pulitzer winner Junot Diaz said of Dylan's award.

Diaz's "The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao," a tragic but humorous story of desire, politics and violence among Dominicans at home and in the United States, won the fiction prize. Diaz, 39, worked for more than a decade on his first novel ? "I spent most of the time on dead-ends and doubts," he told The Associated Press on Monday ? and at one point included a section about Dylan.

"Bob Dylan was a problem for me," Diaz, who has also published a story collection, "Drown," said with a laugh. "I had one part that was 40 pages long, the entire chapter was organized around Bob Dylan's lyrics over a two year-period (1967-69). By the end of it, I wanted to throttle my like of Bob Dylan."

The Pulitzer for drama was given to Tracy Letts' "August: Osage County," which, like Diaz's novel, combines comedy and brutality. Letts calls the play "loosely autobiographical," a bruising family battle spanning several generations of unhappiness and unfulfilled dreams.
"It's a play I have been working on in my head and on paper for many years now," said Letts, reached by the AP in Chicago at the Steppenwolf Theater Company, where "August: Osage County" had its world premiere last summer.

"There were just some details from my grandmother, my grandfather's suicide (for example) that I had played over and over in my head for many, many years. I always thought, `Well, that's the stuff of drama right there.'"

Former U.S. poet laureate Robert Hass, already a National Book Award winner for "Time and Materials," won the poetry Pulitzer, as did Philip Schultz's "Failure."

"This is the book ... I have always wanted to write," Schultz told the AP. "Everyone is expert on one subject and failure seems to be mine. ... I was born into it. My father went bankrupt when I was 18 and he died soon afterward out of (a) terrible sense of shame. And we lost everything, my mother and I."

Other winners Monday: Daniel Walker Howe, for history, for "What Hath God Wrought: The Transformation of America, 1815-1848"; Saul Friedlander, general nonfiction, for "The Years of Extermination: Nazi Germany and the Jews, 1939-1945"; for biography, John Matteson's "Eden's Outcasts: The Story of Louisa May Alcott and Her Father."
"I wrote my book in a way that is generally accessible to the curious literate reader," Howe said. "And I think that's very important, and I wish more books were written that way."

"It's a special honor because it ties me even more to the country of which I'm now a citizen," said Friedlander, who became a U.S. citizen seven years ago and won the German Booksellers Association's 2007 Peace Prize for his work on documenting the Holocaust.

"I am surprised, grateful, overjoyed ? and a little embarrassed to do this with my first book," said Matteson, a professor of English at John Jay College in New York City who added that his 14-year-old daughter was an inspiration.

"Not only did I understand parenting better after writing the book, but being a parent helped me to write the book."

Dylan's victory doesn't mean that the Pulitzers have forgotten classical composers. The competitive prize for music was given to David Lang's "The Little Match Girl Passion," which opened last fall at Carnegie Hall, where Dylan has also performed.

"Bob Dylan is the most frequently played artist in my household so the idea that I am honored at the same time as Bob Dylan, that is humbling," Lang told the AP.

Long after most of his contemporaries either died, left the business or held on by the ties of nostalgia, Dylan continues to tour almost continuously and release highly regarded CDs, most recently "Modern Times." Fans, critics and academics have obsessed over his lyrics ? even digging through his garbage for clues ? since the mid-1960s, when such protest anthems as "Blowin' in the Wind" made Dylan a poet and prophet for a rebellious generation.

His songs include countless biblical references and he has claimed Chekhov, Walt Whitman and Jack Kerouac as influences. His memoir, "Chronicles, Volume One," received a National Book Critics Circle nomination in 2005 and is widely acknowledged as the rare celebrity book that can be treated as literature.

According to publisher Simon & Schuster, Dylan is working on a second volume of memoirs. No release date has been set.
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Apr 21, 2008 11:41 PM
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Bob Dylan is a genius. Only a complete idiot would ignore his writing.
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Apr 21, 2008 10:02 AM
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> Jim,
>
> I can tell you are a thoughtful, thinking person --
> a person of depth and intelligence. So I would
> d recommend that you ignore the comments of RdFan,
> who, as you can can clearly discern from his bitchy,
> snide, ignorant, infantile comments, is a nasty,
> mean-spirited, soulless and supremely ignorant prick,
> who finds no joy in life, on any level
>
> Or, more succinctly, brainless trailer trash




aw, I thought you had me on ignore.....guess not....lol
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Apr 21, 2008 10:01 AM
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>
> So great works of literature or music that make
> political statements should be discounted because a
> "celebrity" produced them?



If people are so in love with Dylan that they want to adopt his views as their own, that?s their choice?..but it is scary as hell.

>
> Attack all you want, but frankly, the man had a great
> influence in the peace movement during the 1960's and
> 1970's and scared the hell out of a lot of people in
> the political world. It would be as interesting to me
> to hear his thoughts on the last (nearly) 30 years of
> changes in the world as it would be to hear Nixon's
> thoughts on the changes in the world over the past
> decade or so.
>
> Should I discount Nixon too because he became a
> "celebrity" after he left office?



I think we should hear Nixon?s detailed analysis of the music scene and it's impact on pop culture.
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Apr 21, 2008 12:45 AM
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>Jim,

>I can tell you are a thoughtful, thinking person -- a person of depth and intelligence. So I would recommend that you ignore the comments of RdFan, who, as you can can clearly discern from his bitchy, snide, ignorant, infantile comments, is a nasty, mean-spirited, soulless and supremely ignorant prick, who finds no joy in life, on any level

>Or, more succinctly, brainless trailer trash



dude, i only heard you say that about a million times...have you ever thought that it was you?
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Apr 21, 2008 12:43 AM
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> > who would care....only those with weak minds
> pay > > attention to what celebrities think....mindless > > sheep..."oh please Mr. Dylan, tell me what to > > think"...

>
> So great works of literature or music that make
> political statements should be discounted because a
> "celebrity" produced them?



Jim,

I can tell you are a thoughtful, thinking person -- a person of depth and intelligence. So I would recommend that you ignore the comments of RdFan, who, as you can can clearly discern from his bitchy, snide, ignorant, infantile comments, is a nasty, mean-spirited, soulless and supremely ignorant prick, who finds no joy in life, on any level

Or, more succinctly, brainless trailer trash
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Apr 21, 2008 12:31 AM
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what's wrong with dissin a celebrity? I think people need to do it more often...
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>I just listened to the only three commentaries on the season 3.5 DVD that was released today and I gotta say I was pretty entertained, although the extras were pretty skimpy with a year and half old panel discussion with the cast and the "Anatomy of Entourage" sequence that had already been released months ago.

>But what bugged me the most was that in all three commentaries Doug Ellin made snide remarks about us the fans who comment on our favorite show on these very message boards. In the "Adios Amigos" commentary both he and Kevin Connelly made fun of the "Message Board Geeks" and elsewhere he said "ah, nobody will see that except THOSE people on the message boards" and other condescending remarks.

>While it's clear that Doug reads these boards (he has said so on many different occasions) he continues to dismiss the fans at every opportunity.



I just read this on an old thread and first of all i'd like to say that i'm not a fan, and i don't even watch your show but, what gives you the right to call the people that do watch your show geeks ?

Yes i do post on message boards and i'd rather continue to do that then watch some D list celebs prance around thinking they're getting one over on the "non famous geeks" What gives you the right to think you're so bloody special?


I like these "geeks" that post here and i like their freakin comments whether they agree with me or not. These messages will be here longer than your show and maybe even your career.
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Apr 21, 2008 12:27 AM
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> who would care....only those with weak minds pay
> attention to what celebrities think....mindless
> sheep..."oh please Mr. Dylan, tell me what to
> think"...


So great works of literature or music that make political statements should be discounted because a "celebrity" produced them?

Attack all you want, but frankly, the man had a great influence in the peace movement during the 1960's and 1970's and scared the hell out of a lot of people in the political world. It would be as interesting to me to hear his thoughts on the last (nearly) 30 years of changes in the world as it would be to hear Nixon's thoughts on the changes in the world over the past decade or so.

Should I discount Nixon too because he became a "celebrity" after he left office?

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Apr 20, 2008 8:39 PM
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Solo John, from 1974

With Elton John, live, at Madison Sq Garden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuVCc6Vat8U
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Apr 20, 2008 8:12 PM
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Goodnight. Almost time for the Last John Adams. See ya'll later in the week.

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