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Completely ripped me up. The shot with him devouring the sandwich and his hunger for more. That was so sad and so telling. What is he really hungry for? I say his piece of shit father's approval. It's just so, so sad. I completely lost it.
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Re: Oliver's segment tonight
Apr 28, 2009 6:59 PM
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Isn't it kind of early for Luke to bring a new girlfriend into the mix? On this point, I agree with Bess. He could date, but there's no reason to have Oliver involved. Luke knows that it Bess will be grilling the kid for information.
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Re: Oliver's segment tonight
Apr 28, 2009 6:16 PM
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This episode showed so clearly the problem with divorce. When the parents get divorced they start thinking about getting someone for themselves. When they were married, they didn't have to worry about that. So now, their lives are all about finding a partner. They just forget about the children.
As Luke said, "Can't we just move on?"
The answer, Luke, is, "No, you can't just move on, you have a child to raise."
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Re: Oliver's segment tonight
Apr 28, 2009 2:15 PM
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> And when Oliver
> entered the kitchen, which is off limits to Mia and
> the other patients, he hesitated at the threshold as
> if he knew that he was crossing a barrier, and
> entering a special private place and a different sort
> of relationshpi with Paul - and then once he did the
> two were so natural together it made the barrier seem
> so artificial.
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That's an interesting detail, and kudos to the director for that. Oliver did pause, implying a reluctance to trust completely, but then he quickly becomes overcurious ("What's that room?"), and you see Paul hesitating to share personal information -- but he does share it. I've always thought of working with troubled children as similar to working with abused dogs (which I do). You have to earn trust, and it's an exchange of boundaries at first. When you finally break through, you have to be careful not to breach the trust, or you risk losing all the work you've done up until then. It's a fragile relationship at first. That was conveyed in this scene.
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Re: Oliver's segment tonight
Apr 28, 2009 11:32 AM
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I too was thinking you dont make a terrarium for a turtle out of a pasta box unless you were using it to bury the turtle. How big is a pasta box? You keep turtles in GLASS duh. maybe they need an animal expert on set. ha
Oliver does seem flat--the acting--but you can tell GB is great with acting with kids yes. he was happy to have Oliver and feed him since he misses his son and Mia he did not want her in his kitchen at all.
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Re: Oliver's segment tonight
Apr 28, 2009 10:37 AM
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I just loved the sandwich scene, and I agree that Paul needs him as much as Oliver needs Paul. GB is incredible acting with children - I don't think I've ever seen such a portrayal of genuine sensitivity and understanding of how to talk to a child before. I felt it last year in all of the Sophie episodes and it's ever more tender with Oliver. And when Oliver entered the kitchen, which is off limits to Mia and the other patients, he hesitated at the threshold as if he knew that he was crossing a barrier, and entering a special private place and a different sort of relationshpi with Paul - and then once he did the two were so natural together it made the barrier seem so artificial. And it did dovetail so nicely with his comments to Gina about the absence of bears in his den. My heart aches for Paul!!! (and I can't seem to work at all today!!)
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Re: Oliver's segment tonight
Apr 28, 2009 10:22 AM
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This whole episode broke my heart. Imagine a child feeling so left out, of EVERYWHERE. He feels horrible at school, he feels guilty about even being alive at both of his homes. He's starving himself and neither of his parents have a clue. His dumbass mother thinks that he's just 'not overeating' anymore, and that he looks wonderful. So, of course, she can go on vacation. She says it's been 6 years since she's been on vacation, without her husband or son. WTF?? Most parents I know very rarely go anywhere without their families. Six years is NOT that long a time, trust me.
When he tells Paul that he wishes that he was adopted, is where I start to lose it. He wants to go somewhere that people will want him. Paul asks him if he thinks that his parents don't want him, and he doesn't give Paul an answer. That poor kid.
I do believe that Paul needs Oliver as much as Oliver needs Paul. Paul loved the fact that he could provide for him, and you can see that. This little boy both reminds Paul of his own childhood, and causes him to realize how much his own children mean to him.
Aaron Shaw plays this role perfectly. He responds like a very typical 11 year old. He shows some hesitation in following Paul into the kitchen. We see the bond form between them, over that sandwich.
Profound stuff.....amazing......
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Re: Oliver's segment tonight
Apr 28, 2009 8:52 AM
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> But the scene you mention, of him
> scarfing a sandwich and nodding a timid "yes" when
> asked whether he was still hungry... the (child)
> actor got that expression just right. It broke my
> heart. I'm a feeder by nature, and a big old softy.
> I respond to that look.
The sandwich would have been enough if Paul had made him a proper one.
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Re: Oliver's segment tonight
Apr 28, 2009 1:44 AM
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Me too. I've been hard-hearted toward Oliver up until now, but he won me over tonight, at the end of the episode. Up until then, I was as irritated as usual with the details the writers got wrong... a "terrarium" made of an old pasta box, for a red eared slider (a water turtle)? Wrong. And with the bone-headed, shrill, annoying character that is Oliver's mother. And with the usual flatness of "Oliver's" acting (to me the child is rude.. does he ever say
"please"?) But the scene you mention, of him scarfing a sandwich and nodding a timid "yes" when asked whether he was still hungry... the (child) actor got that expression just right. It broke my heart. I'm a feeder by nature, and a big old softy. I respond to that look.
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Apr 28, 2009 1:17 AM
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Completely ripped me up. The shot with him devouring the sandwich and his hunger for more. That was so sad and so telling. What is he really hungry for? I say his piece of shit father's approval. It's just so, so sad. I completely lost it.
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