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A wounded Eric plays Sookie for a sucker, to Bill?s dismay, and ends up getting inside her head. Later, Sookie and Jason reflect on their recent adventure, and end up bonding at the feuding Newlins? expense. Blaming Eggs for Tara?s bruises and bizarre behavior, Lafayette and Lettie Mae try to figure out a way to pry their kin from Maryann?s clutches. Hoyt defends his relationship with Jessica to Maxine over lunch, to no avail. Jailed by Bud along with a group of Bon Temps revelers, Sam finds a novel way to escape his cell ? and avoid capture by an increasingly obsessed Maryann. In Dallas, Eric and the vampires defend their recent actions to Nan Flanagan, and are shocked when Godric decides to take the fall for their PR disaster.
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 11:13 PM
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> ks86, you're right, i didn't think of it like that,
> that maybe they hadn't read the book and i would be
> spoiling it for them. I just get so offended when
> people are like oooh you read the books and its not
> the same thing and oooh you book people and blah
> blah. I love the books. and i love the series.
> clodn(?) did make some good points, i just got worked
> up when they said 'book folks'. So, I am sorry for
> getting my panties in a knot.
Easy fix for everyone. If you are going to refer to something from the book, before you start to type it, write SPOILER then skip a couple lines. This will give posters the option of reading the post or not.. Just a suggestion.
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 11:11 PM
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> why wouldn't us 'book folks' be aloud to mention
> anything here? afterall, the series is the books, the
> books is the series. Sure they've changed a few
> things, and added a few people but it's all basically
> the same. And furthermore I dont appreciate you
> coming in here acting like you're the yoda of
> trueblood and getting all excited over yourself and
> trying to compare it to TWILIGHT!? have you been
> drinking too much my delusional friend? Alan Ball
> himself said please, dont compare trueblood to
> twilight. go rate the newest barbie movie or
> something you actually know a thing or two about.
Actually, Alan Ball also said (as well as Charlaine Harris also said) not to compare the books and movies as they are 2 different things. The books are just used as a guideline.
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Aug 17, 2009 11:10 PM
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I thought this episode was flat-out amazing in all kinds of way, only some of which I'll talk about here .
When I stumbled on to S1 of True Blood on HBO On Demand, I was totally hooked, and more than anything by the character of Bill and his relationship with Sookie. The danger, the pathos, the violins -- the tragedy of his back story -- Alan Ball said at some early point that the series was "about" how scary it is to fall in love with someone, and that really captured it for me --it completely took me back to those younger moments where you fall for someone so hard it makes your chest hurt, and it feels like they could literally steal your soul away if you're not careful.
So, fast forward through, can't wait for S2, order books, read 1-9 in about a week, hmm. I came back to HBO for season two very interested in what was going to happen with Eric's character, and, admittedly, very taken with Alexander Skarsgaard. So far, Bill is less appealing to me in S2 than in S1 -- after some very hot scenes with Sookie early in the season, he seems to be increasingly uptight and anxious and controlling -- like somebody who thinks of himself as the daddy but in practice is feeling, as he says, like a waitress. As Sookie gains self-assurance, Bill seems to want to stand between her and the rest of the world, whether she wants protection or not -- as if he believes that their relationship depends on, to some extent, keeping her isolated. As far as we can tell in the TV series, that seems to be pure insecurity on his part -- at least up until this episode. (Kudos to Stephen Moyer for doing something interesting with the character -- presumably he could continue being as hot as in S1, so this is ACTING).
So Bill has been losing his hold on my affections, if not on Sookie's. At the same time, even though AS himself is smoking hot, I'm with Wyldfae -- he has not been playing Eric as an appealing character. It's been hard to see how his Eric was ever going to be in the picture as a romantic rival to Bill. I've even felt he made Eric far less attractive than he could've been: slouching shoulders, almost expressionless face, and a kind of "vampirish" carriage that Stephen Moyer has largely dropped in season two, where he keeps his head tilted forward so that you always see him looking out from under his eyebrows. A significantly different kind of guy, for the most part, than Charlene Harris's witty and flamboyant Eric, and that's before you get to the basement torture dungeon.
So I love how Alan Ball surprises me, even when he goes places that I was more or less expecting him to go. In Sookie's post-bloodsucking fantasy, when AS finally got to move his facial muscles and let his hair down out of the gel, wow -- it knocked my socks off. That scene was beyond sexy, in large part because of its tenderness and humor -- something we haven't really seen so far, even (imho) between Sookie and Bill. What really happened to Eric's character up on the roof with Godric was equally transformational, in a different way --1000 years of faith and love is a heck of an anniversary to get to, and whatever emotion we see Eric show in that scene is only the beginning of the effect a loss that profound is going to have. Once Godric is gone, the things he has said to Eric -- about how vampires need to change, for instance -- are also going to have their effect. Witnessing all of this -- on top of seeing Eric try to sacrifice himself in the church for her and Godric -- would have changed Sookie's view of Eric even if she hadn't been tricked into drinking his blood. And having Sookie step up to be there for Godric at sunrise, when Eric can't be, is surely going to mean something to him that goes way beyond the benefits of having a sexy telepath on tap. What the exact results of all this will be in terms of the plot I won't try to guess, but I sense a tectonic shift.
Roll on #22.
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 11:08 PM
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I think Sam should crack Maryann over the head with that statue. Once it's broken on her noggin her spell on the town will be broken.
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 11:01 PM
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marcosg.... good point about the little statue! They did make a point to show it twice...you may be on to something.
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 10:55 PM
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Ok Folks,
I won't reference the books for all of you non-readers that have your pantyhose stuck in the vacuum. I will say thought that two of the scenes from last night were on par with the book and they worked well.
Now, I have one big question for all of you. Who in the f_ck is Nan. Yes, I know she's on TV as she proudly proclaimed and she's obviously the spokesperson for the Queen, who we keep hearing referenced, but what in the heck is her role in all of this? Oh, and do you think we're gonna see the Queen? I think we'll probably see her in the last episode of the season. It may even be at the tail end of the episode.
Oh, and does anyone else her, besides me, think that there's some signficance with Maryanne's power being connected to that strange figure we saw a young Sam almost take when he was steaing from Maryanne and then we see an older Sam touch when he's trying to return her money? I'll bet if that figure is destroyed them Maryanne becomes mortal. Any thoughts?
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 10:55 PM
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> Someone else mentioned this previously, and it
> bothered me too...
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> When Godric met the sun, I expected him to burn like
> Bill had...all gruesome and stuff. He just kind of
> disappeared into a blue light.
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> Any thoughts on why the difference?
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> BTW, I LOVED this episode! I'm so glad to find this
> board and find I'm not the only one who cried like a
> baby. I used to be a Bill fan...but I can resist the
> draw of Eric!
I think it was the age difference. Godric told Sookie that it wouldn't take long "not at my age"..
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 10:39 PM
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Couldn't agree more. This episode left me in tears. Powerful in so many ways and on so many levels. Great acting throughout. Bill fan or Alex fan, I love em both! Godrics "death" brought out the best of this show. Sure hope he does "rise again". He was really awesome and so deep. Best episode I've seen yet. Keep it coming!! Sundays don't come quick enough since True Blood!!
Alive and loving it
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 10:18 PM
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> Eric letting him get away with the punch didn't have
> anything to do with settling a score. Eric had other
> matters to attend to.
I concur, Captain. Bill wanting to fight for Sookie's honor was pretty low on the list for Eric.
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 10:08 PM
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> And do you
> really believe that Eric would have let Bill get away
> with punching him if he didn't have it coming. That
> was Eric's way of letting Bill settle the score so
> that they could put it behind him.
Eric letting him get away with the punch didn't have anything to do with settling a score. Eric had other matters to attend to.
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 9:34 PM
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> As for Sookie falling for Eric because she took a sip
> of his blood: That would be a pretty weak plot line.
> I hope they don't go there.
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> Does it mean Lafayette is going to be in love with
> Eric too?
> Last I remember, he was still having Eric flavoured
> waking nightmares even though he drank much more
> deeply.
>
> If Sookie is going to rethink her opinion of Eric, I
> think it would and should be because what she
> witnessed between him and Godric on the roof-top not
> because she had a weird wet-dream.
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> It makes plenty of sense for her to find Eric
> abominable. He manipulated Bill to exploit her
> telepathy, he detained and tortured her friend. I'm
> also sure any heterosexual woman would find him
> attractive because he is, at best having his blood
> might bring that attraction to her attention, but
> unless she's completely enthralled and glamoured
> (which isn't supposed to work on her) I don't think
> her higher brain functions should stop working.
>
> It would be a weak set up.
ditto on that one
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 9:31 PM
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> ks86, you're right, i didn't think of it like that,
> that maybe they hadn't read the book and i would be
> spoiling it for them. I just get so offended when
> people are like oooh you read the books and its not
> the same thing and oooh you book people and blah
> blah. I love the books. and i love the series.
> clodn(?) did make some good points, i just got worked
> up when they said 'book folks'. So, I am sorry for
> getting my panties in a knot.
It's cool. I'll soon proudly be one of the book folks, since I JUST received the box set from Amazon.  I really shouldn't have bought it since I just bought a shiny macbook pro which hasn't been paid off yet, but oh well, I need a v fix while I'm waiting for Sunday night!
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 9:22 PM
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my favorite part of the whole episode (ok, not my favorite, but one) was when Sookie is sucking the bullet out of Eric's chest and Eric turns and looks at the screen and gets the biggest, evilest smile I have ever seen a vampire get. I laughed so hard, I literally almost peed.
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 9:13 PM
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ks86, you're right, i didn't think of it like that, that maybe they hadn't read the book and i would be spoiling it for them. I just get so offended when people are like oooh you read the books and its not the same thing and oooh you book people and blah blah. I love the books. and i love the series. clodn(?) did make some good points, i just got worked up when they said 'book folks'. So, I am sorry for getting my panties in a knot.
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Re: Episode 21: I Will Rise Up
Aug 17, 2009 9:06 PM
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> why wouldn't us 'book folks' be aloud to mention
> anything here? afterall, the series is the books, the
> books is the series. Sure they've changed a few
> things, and added a few people but it's all basically
> the same.
Well, for those who haven't read the books, they might be spoiled by what is mentioned by the book folks. I for one don't mind, since I also read the Spoilers thread, but I can see how others might be offended.
> And furthermore I dont appreciate you
> coming in here acting like you're the yoda of
> trueblood and getting all excited over yourself and
> trying to compare it to TWILIGHT!? have you been
> drinking too much my delusional friend? Alan Ball
> himself said please, dont compare trueblood to
> twilight. go rate the newest barbie movie or
> something you actually know a thing or two about.
I'll have to defend clodn, since he/she was merely trying to offer a theory on the pseudo-physics of the show and the logic of the burning/hair-generation/healing. No need to call names and jump down their bloody throat.
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