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If you've read the books and would like to discuss [future] plot lines, please do it here so as not to spoil it for those who are new to the series - thanks!
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Oct 30, 2009 5:22 PM
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> I've been reading some of the posts for the
> spoilers... very interesting. I do remember something
> about Eric saying he would not give himself to save
> Sookie, but I think that there may be more to that as
> someone eluded to early. Seriously though, if
> anything happens to Eric I will freak the F out! His
> character either in the books or TB must remain
> perfectly safe at all times. I think a lot of people
> would agree with me in the fact, I can't have
> anything happen to him
I'm with you vamprgrl -- kill Sookie, kill Bill , kill Jason but leave Eric alone.
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I've been reading some of the posts for the spoilers... very interesting. I do remember something about Eric saying he would not give himself to save Sookie, but I think that there may be more to that as someone eluded to early. Seriously though, if anything happens to Eric I will freak the F out! His character either in the books or TB must remain perfectly safe at all times. I think a lot of people would agree with me in the fact, I can't have anything happen to him
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Oct 30, 2009 4:59 PM
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Interesting points made all around and I cant help but and my 2 cents for what its worth...
I think AB after having admitted reading the books and being a Bill fan he has decided *possibly* to save Bill through TB and also by forcing CH's hand...
By this I mean AB has come out and said CH wanted to kill Bill in DAG but was talked out of it ( paraphrasing) so it appears he *may* have had contributed to this *turnaround* in events in the book.. AB knows he has TOTAL control over what happens on the series and he can make Bill into the HERO/SAINT he HAS..
IF.. CH had killed Bill in DAG when TB was just becoming so popular and WORD OF MOUTH had gotten around that he was dead there would not have been as MUCH interest in the character Bill or B/S relationship or TB or the Books..
I think this was a very calculated move on AB part to protect his interest in his investment in TB. And now that he has spilled the beans on CH I expect her to pay him back twofold..
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Oct 30, 2009 4:16 PM
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> In the next book Bill must find a blood relative to
> cure him but in Vampire Biology, what is a blood
> relative? Is it another vampire made by Lorena? If
> yes maybe this "Blood" relation could be the female
> vamp of Bill's dreams? You know that Lorena would not
> have just lived life alone after Bill left her.
Aposmeal,
That blood relative thing has me all confused. It has to be another vamp made by Lorena because all of Bill's living relatives are gone. If I remember correctly, Jesse Compton was the last one to go. Oh, but what about Andy? Oh that would be too much - Bill sucking away on Andy or Porsche? Hummmm
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In the next book Bill must find a blood relative to cure him but in Vampire Biology, what is a blood relative? Is it another vampire made by Lorena? If yes maybe this "Blood" relation could be the female vamp of Bill's dreams? You know that Lorena would not have just lived life alone after Bill left her.
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Oct 30, 2009 4:06 PM
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Latbfan and MoreEric,
Hunter - I don't like him. Is that awful to say? I just find that whole storyline boring and strange. Who know's maybe she'll end up with his father or something.
Arlene - it could happen, maybe. She loves those kids and hated not seeing them. Will Arlene go to jail? I know in the last book she had just gotten a good lawyer. I felt that was strange - with Arlene going so over the top. It just didn't feel right to me. Not to help them mutilate, hang and then kill Sookie. That just seems too out there for her.
Oh God - I never thought of the trinity dieing together at the end. Shivers. It could be that Sookie dies trying to save Bill or Eric. That would end it for sure. But what a sad ending - but - CH has stated she doesn't believe in happy endings. Shivers
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Oct 30, 2009 3:59 PM
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> What a throughly interesting discussion you're having
> over here.
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> Here are my thoughts - for what their worth.
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> I fear - truly fear - that Eric will die in the end.
> Only because CH has written Eric saying he wouldn't
> t die to save her. In the end, Sookie will do
> something stupid and Eric will save her at the cost
> of his own life. I so hope I"m wrong - please let me
> be wrong.
I think this is a strong possiblity if Sookie does not end up with Eric as well.
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> Bill - I think AB was telling the truth with what he
> said. Only because while reading the book I felt
> that Bill was going to die and then - bammo - he's
> not dead. The whole tone of the book was set up to
> have Bill be the big one to go.
I agree and must add that I thought it was a manipulative cop out to bring Bill to the edge of death and then ..."presto" ... he's alive. I would say the same thing if she did that to Eric.
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> Claudine - I hated to see her go - hated it.
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> If Sookie has children wouldn't she run into the same
> trouble she has with other humans? She could read
> their thoughts. I would think that would be too much
> for the child and Sookie. Lots of time on the couch
> for that kid.
>
> Arlene had kids - maybe Sookie ends up caring for
> them - once she goes to the big house.
I thought maybe she might kill off Arlene and then have Sookie be their caregiver.
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Oct 30, 2009 3:53 PM
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I'll throw my hat into the ring, too...
I always thought one of the big attractions to Alcide was the fact that Sookie could have as close to a normal life as possible with him. I don't see how that aspect of CD will play out in S3, as Sookie and Bill are in a very different place in TB than they were in the books.
Thus, Sam is a real contender for her in the books. In the show, he's not so much of a push-over. I actually like that. In the books, he's far too understanding and loyal, altough in D&G, he did seem to be at some kind of crossroads. It wouldn't surprised me if, in the books, she ends up with Sam.
As much as I'd like Sookie to be with Eric or Bill (more so Eric in the books, as Bill has only just been making a comeback; I'm sure the show influenced D&G), I don't see her with either one in the long-run. She's insistent about not being turned. She's never explained why, but it shows that she can't truly love either one of them. If she truly did, she would be willing to do that. She wouldn't insist on a "normal" human life or children. She wouldn't have waited until Eric wasn't himself to fall for him, and then spend the rest of the series sad that he's back to being Eric.
Sookie spends most the early books not certain if she truly loved Bill, or if she just loved that she could be with someone. Until, of course, New Orleans, at which point her one and only true love betrayed her. But she was dry-humping Quinn two seconds later, so she wasn't that broken-hearted. (That was crude, and my apologies, but it's what happened...)
I've never much cared for the addition of Hunter, who was dropped in and then not relevent. But I can't imagine how difficult it would be to live in a house with "regular" people (can you imagine being able to "hear" teenaged Jason Stackhouse? And she couldn't not tune it out if she's sleeping. Listening in on that boy's dreams? ha!), let alone another telepath.
In the end, I've always suspected that CH will kill off the Trinity. Bill, Sookie, and Eric will die together. All three of them. I'm not sure how or why it will come to pass, but she'd never be happy with one of them, and she'd never be happy without them either.
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Oct 30, 2009 3:15 PM
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What a throughly interesting discussion you're having over here.
Here are my thoughts - for what their worth.
I fear - truly fear - that Eric will die in the end. Only because CH has written Eric saying he wouldn't die to save her. In the end, Sookie will do something stupid and Eric will save her at the cost of his own life. I so hope I"m wrong - please let me be wrong.
Bill - I think AB was telling the truth with what he said. Only because while reading the book I felt that Bill was going to die and then - bammo - he's not dead. The whole tone of the book was set up to have Bill be the big one to go.
Claudine - I hated to see her go - hated it.
If Sookie has children wouldn't she run into the same trouble she has with other humans? She could read their thoughts. I would think that would be too much for the child and Sookie. Lots of time on the couch for that kid.
Arlene had kids - maybe Sookie ends up caring for them - once she goes to the big house.
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Oct 30, 2009 2:16 PM
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> > Honestly i thought he was dead when i read
> the book
> > then he moved and sookie said he is alive and i
> was
> > happy i like bill and i was glad he did not die
> i was
> > sorrry about trey i was real sad about that
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> Yeah, I was really sad about that too, he was my
> favorite Were, actually. And also from the end of
> that book, I was SOBBING about Claudine. Only time
> those books have made me even want to cry, and I just
> lost it on that one. For the record, I would not
> have cried if she killed off Bill.... Of course, to
> balance that out, I might be suicidal if she killed
> off Eric....
oh dont talk about claudine i get teary thinking about her and she was pregnant after she waited all those years ahh charlaine she sure aint afraid to kill someone off
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Oct 30, 2009 2:13 PM
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> 6947 duckpond100 2009-10-29 18:31
> I understand that Alan was commenting on the
> differences between the future of the series and the
> plot of the books at Paleyfest, and remarked that I'd
> been "talked out of" killing Bill. That's leaving an
> inaccurate impression with many readers, my
> moderators have told me.
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> Unfortunately, in a conversation with Alan some
> months ago I did tell him that when I was finishing
> DEAD AND GONE I did consider the possibility that
> Bill might die in the fairy assault on the field
> hospital. I did not realize that Alan might remember
> and repeat my words. During the course of the Sookie
> series, I've considered killing off several
> characters who haven't bitten the dust yet and may
> never. That's one of the choices a fiction writer
> considers with every book. And you'll notice that in
> the end, I decided that Bill had more story to tell.
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>
> So please don't give Alan's words any more weight
> than they're due, or blow them out of proportion. It
> never occurred to me that he might repeat a casual
> remark of mine about a possibility that never came to
> pass.
>
> Charlaine Harris
Now this is why i dont give anything he says credence.
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Oct 30, 2009 2:05 PM
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Here is my thinking on this. AB has made it abundantly clear that he has a crush on Bill and will "do right" by him
Not sure who wrote this but is there a link to AB stating that he will"do right" by Bill? Just wondering because I didn't know this and I'm curious.
My take on where CH might go with the books... which BTW I LIKE even though I have been critical of her writing. One can enjoy the sum of an experience yet dislike certain aspects along the journey.
Lol ... this will be funny cause I bet everyone will disagree with me ( what else is new)
I think after reading the books that CH is slowly moving Sookie toward becoming a vampire.
She starts out never wanting to be a vamp and disgusted with the killing and brutality of their lives.
In one of the late books she even speaks of watching someone being killed and thinking "Wow, a couple of years ago I would have been freaked out by this" but now ( not sure if she actually said the person who died "deserved it" or not) but she is clearly unmoved by the death.
You bookies will probably know what scene I'm talking about. Since I vamp ass read them all in 10 days I'm unclear of the who, what or when of this.
I think in the end Sookie will recognize her love for Eric and have him turn her.
She will come to the understanding that there is no place for her in the "normal" world. She will never have a relationship with a regular guy because the emotional cost is just too much. She can hear their thoughts and because of this it is impossible for her to ever relax and just be herself.
Sookie is not normal ... never has been, never will be. She has bonded more with the vamps and supes then with people of her own kind.
In my opinion there is only one place Sookie can land where she can ever let down her guard and be whole ... and that is in the arms of Eric.
She will be given Hunter and she will raise him as her own ( or some other child) which will take care of maternal instincts.
OR ... she could still end up with Bill ... depending. I think CH would have a hard time justifying this as she has made it clear in all the books that Sookie's romantic love for him is dead. it would be most unbelievable (to me) that all these years later that Sookie rekindles a flame that is already been blown out.
It would be a hard sell since she has loathed him in the past and love never recovers from this state of being.
Anybody else agree that this might be a possibility or am I just out here waving my freak flag all by myself as usual?
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Oct 30, 2009 11:22 AM
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I think eventually Bill is a goner as Sookie will not get her head on straight until he is gone. I'm glad CH did not kill him off yet as Sookie still needs to come to the conclusion that she loves Eric even if Bill is still an option.
WORD. You are dead on.
For me the books will always supercede the series. It does not matter what AB does. He writes Fanfic so the books will always be the final word
Sorry I should have clarified... when I say series I mean the books too. The books are canon, TB is fanfic 
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> I have a really, really, really (REALLY!) bad
> feeling that CH will kill Eric off at some point (not
> until the end of the series, though,
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> I think she will kill Bill off at the end of the
> series. The fact that she's come out and said she's
> already considered doing it in DAG confirms that
> feeling.
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> CH has said that Eric will survive the series. She's
> never said that about Bill. She won't kill Eric.
> She's put too much energy into developing his
> s character. Far more than she has put into Bill.
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> So Aaine, are you saying that you think Sookie
> ultimately winds up with Eric? Because I'm just not
> seeing that.
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> That's what I'm saying 
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> She and him have come together too rapidly for
> that to happen, I think, there are still at least 4
> more books coming.
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> Too rapidly? Are you serious? Sookie and Eric have
> been dancing around eachother for 9 books. NINE
> books. We have had TWO (and a half if you count CD)
> sex scenes and two really intimate conversations in
> that time.
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> Those nine books span over nearly two years.
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> I'm not getting your point.
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> Sam is a distraction. Just like Quinn and Alcide, he
> is there as a contrast.
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> Putting aside the "Sam can give her children and a
> normal life" argument, what else is there? Book
> Sookie is way beyond having a normal life now, even
> if she wants one. And I doubt she does since she
> keeps going back to the supe world where she feels
> she has purpose.
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> CH said recently that there are children in Sookie's
> future but they won't necessarily be hers and they
> may not live with her.
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> That to me says Hunter.
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> Hunter was quite obviously a means of giving Sookie
> children in a situation where she couldn't otherwise
> have any.
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> Connect the dots.
>
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> Edited by Aaine at 10/30/2009 8:02 AM PDT
5 stars as usual Aaine
I think eventually Bill is a goner as Sookie will not get her head on straight until he is gone. I'm glad CH did not kill him off yet as Sookie still needs to come to the conclusion that she loves Eric even if Bill is still an option. For me the books will always supercede the series. It does not matter what AB does. He writes Fanfic so the books will always be the final word.
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Oct 30, 2009 11:10 AM
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There was nothing rapid about Sookie and Eric getting together...
Not counting the amnesia (book 4) .....we have had to wait all the way to book 9.
Half the reason I had to re read the series is that I was whipping through the books after #4 ...just waiting, hoping and waiting some more..for Eric and Sookie to FINALLY be together.
I would be really surprised and disappointed if Bill was killed. ...however, I would be equally surprised and disappointed if he and Sookie were together at the end of the series.
While there have been twists and turns in CH's story arc, all logical expectations are for Eric and Sookie to be together.....except for...now here's the big BUT....
......SAM...I do think the shifter still might "get the girl" in the end. He has been successfully flying under the radar all this time.....The series started off w/ Sookie having feelings/fantasies about him. She didn't want to mess w/ her job/employer....
If Sookie and Sam ended up together, the story would come full circle.....wouldn't it?
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