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If you've read the books and would like to discuss [future] plot lines, please do it here so as not to spoil it for those who are new to the series - thanks!
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Oct 23, 2009 9:54 AM
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> > (Although even her fantasizing about Eric at
> this
> > s point is moving things along faster.)
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> Gonna correct myself before someone else has a chance
> to  -- we DID by now have some REAL Eric/Sookie
> kissing at the orgy at the end of Book 2. While we
> can't say that actually caused her to fantasize about
> Eric, she DID comment on his skills in that area, and
> she DID reciprocate. So maybe that puts us at about
> the same place with their relationship??? (That's a
> real question, I don't know even know my own answer
> to that....)
We cant be at the same place one is a fantasy that has no action behind it and the other has been completed.
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Oct 23, 2009 9:50 AM
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> (Although even her fantasizing about Eric at this
> s point is moving things along faster.)
Gonna correct myself before someone else has a chance to -- we DID by now have some REAL Eric/Sookie kissing at the orgy at the end of Book 2. While we can't say that actually caused her to fantasize about Eric, she DID comment on his skills in that area, and she DID reciprocate. So maybe that puts us at about the same place with their relationship??? (That's a real question, I don't know even know my own answer to that....)
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Oct 23, 2009 9:49 AM
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> AND....(sorry, now you've got me on a roll)
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> One of the things that has annoyed me in the books is
> the whole "does Eric love her because of the fairy
> blood" thing. To me it's clear that his feelings run
> deeper than just that, but that ambiguity is annoying
> because of Sookie's constant double-guessing, and
> from the perspective of giving Bill lovers/Eric
> haters fodder to say he doesn't really love her.
> Perhaps AB is eliminating that , and to me
> e that would be a very good thing.
>
> Ok, I think I'm done....
yeah ... but I think this is a fair question. Book Eric has never declared his love for Sookie except when he 'wasn't himself" and even then he said " I COULD love you"
So Sookie has no idea where he is. She KNOWS Bill loves her and regrets what he has done.
The ambiguity is being used so CH can sell books. .. which I honestly don't have alot of respect for.
AB will not let us have any clear answers and will keep us in the same state for ...years!
Damn BOTH of them. I really don't care as long as Eric has Sookie sexually.
Brutal but true.
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Oct 23, 2009 9:47 AM
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> The dream is AB's way of f**king with us because he
> knew we wanted a sexual moment between eric and
> sookie which we had in the book because eric never
> made any bones that he wanted to sleep with her in
> the book.
I actually saw it more as him giving us a little bit of what we wanted (Eric/Sookie) without moving the story along faster than it did in the book. (Although even her fantasizing about Eric at this point is moving things along faster.)
Ok, I've had fun playing, but I've got stuff to do! LOL
Everyone have a great day!!!
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Oct 23, 2009 9:44 AM
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> NO hotvamp she was not drained on the show she was
> sprinkled with steaming water then ludwig ran her
> fingers in the wounds removed a nail and said you can
> give her the blood now then eric offered to give her
> his blood which bill refused i hated that entire
> episode.
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> Because sookie was suppose to go into season three
> free of vampire blood. Because she was drained by all
> four vamps and given human blood.
Ok, thanks for the correction, Mich, clearly I need to watch it again. I was so distraught about it not going the way it was SUPPOSED to go, I didn't get the details correct obviously. I really thought Bill had a role in that.
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Oct 23, 2009 9:44 AM
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> > > Ok .. now I get why everyone was so
> fucking
> > furious.
> > > ERIC gave blood to Sookie and AB turned it
> into
> > the
> > > scene where the Doc comes in and leaves out
> the
> > blood
> > > exchange.
> >
> >
> > No, she didn't take Eric's blood, Eric took hers
> --
> > the vamps, under Dr Ludwig's orders, drain her
> of her
> > poison-tainted blood (they all have to take
> turns
> > because one vamp alone would ingest too much
> poison),
> > then her bood is replaced with human blood
> (Eric
> > drums some up somewhere, resourceful head vamp
> that
> > he is).
> >
> > AB had Bill do all the draining himself. Just.
> Not.
> > Right.
>
> Even more annoying. yeah ... i still trust AB.
>
> Wanted to ask since I did not read the first two
> books when is the FIRST time that Eric and Sookie
> hook up sexually?
>
> The reason I ask is because AB brought to us on
> screen Eric and Sookie in the "dream" because HE
> wanted to give the auidence an explicit "eric and
> Sookie"
>
> He didn't have to do that but he wanted to is my
> guess?
>
> Am I wrong or just not making sense at all?
the first sexual hookup really is book three but he kissed her before in book two and made out with her on the car.
The dream is AB's way of f**king with us because he knew we wanted a sexual moment between eric and sookie which we had in the book because eric never made any bones that he wanted to sleep with her in the book.
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Oct 23, 2009 9:39 AM
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> > Ok .. now I get why everyone was so fucking
> furious.
> > ERIC gave blood to Sookie and AB turned it into
> the
> > scene where the Doc comes in and leaves out the
> blood
> > exchange.
>
>
> No, she didn't take Eric's blood, Eric took hers --
> the vamps, under Dr Ludwig's orders, drain her of her
> poison-tainted blood (they all have to take turns
> because one vamp alone would ingest too much poison),
> then her bood is replaced with human blood (Eric
> drums some up somewhere, resourceful head vamp that
> he is).
>
> AB had Bill do all the draining himself. Just. Not.
> Right.
Even more annoying. yeah ... i still trust AB.
Wanted to ask since I did not read the first two books when is the FIRST time that Eric and Sookie hook up sexually?
The reason I ask is because AB brought to us on screen Eric and Sookie in the "dream" because HE wanted to give the auidence an explicit "eric and Sookie"
He didn't have to do that but he wanted to is my guess?
Am I wrong or just not making sense at all?
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Oct 23, 2009 9:38 AM
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> > Ok .. now I get why everyone was so fucking
> furious.
> > ERIC gave blood to Sookie and AB turned it into
> the
> > scene where the Doc comes in and leaves out the
> blood
> > exchange.
>
>
> No, she didn't take Eric's blood, Eric took hers --
> the vamps, under Dr Ludwig's orders, drain her of her
> poison-tainted blood (they all have to take turns
> because one vamp alone would ingest too much poison),
> then her bood is replaced with human blood (Eric
> drums some up somewhere, resourceful head vamp that
> he is).
>
> AB had Bill do all the draining himself. Just. Not.
> Right.
NO hotvamp she was not drained on the show she was sprinkled with steaming water then ludwig ran her fingers in the wounds removed a nail and said you can give her the blood now then eric offered to give her his blood which bill refused i hated that entire episode.
Because sookie was suppose to go into season three free of vampire blood. Because she was drained by all four vamps and given human blood.
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Oct 23, 2009 9:34 AM
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AND....(sorry, now you've got me on a roll)
One of the things that has annoyed me in the books is the whole "does Eric love her because of the fairy blood" thing. To me it's clear that his feelings run deeper than just that, but that ambiguity is annoying because of Sookie's constant double-guessing, and from the perspective of giving Bill lovers/Eric haters fodder to say he doesn't really love her. Perhaps AB is eliminating that ambiguity, and to me that would be a very good thing.
Ok, I think I'm done....
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Oct 23, 2009 9:31 AM
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Although, come to think of it, as mad as I was about Eric not being involved in Sookie's Maenad cure, I'm sort of liking the thought of it being a much more significant deal for Eric when he finally does have her blood.
Others have speculated that he's not had her blood because then his falling for her is more "pure" than Bill (who would have fallen for her because of her blood). I also like that idea as well.
So, I'm on a wait-and-see as far as my opinion as to whether or not this is a good twist. I can't help but think it benefits the Viking in the end, though, so we'll see....
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Oct 23, 2009 9:27 AM
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> Ok .. now I get why everyone was so fucking furious.
> ERIC gave blood to Sookie and AB turned it into the
> scene where the Doc comes in and leaves out the blood
> exchange.
No, she didn't take Eric's blood, Eric took hers -- the vamps, under Dr Ludwig's orders, drain her of her poison-tainted blood (they all have to take turns because one vamp alone would ingest too much poison), then her bood is replaced with human blood (Eric drums some up somewhere, resourceful head vamp that he is).
AB had Bill do all the draining himself. Just. Not. Right.
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Oct 23, 2009 9:25 AM
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> Eric does not have Sookie's blood when she is staked,
> she just has his. So there's no reason staking can't
> go on as scheduled if AB is adverse to Eric having
> her blood.
>
> Now, in the books, Eric has already had Sookie's
> blood by now -- he helped drain her of the Maenad's
> poison in Book 2 (along with Pam, Chow, and Bill).
> (Pam: "We took turns holding you in our lap. You
> ou were much admired. Bill was furious." LOL That
> Pam!).
>
> Of course, that has not happened in TB, and paired
> with QSA's warning to "Don't. Ever." drink from
> Sookie, I'm sure there will be some sort of major
> significance when Eric finally DOES drink from her.
> I would think that needs to happen at some point
> t before season/book 4, since they exchange blood
> while lovemaking during Eric's amnesia episode.
> Although, I suppose they could twist that as Sookie
> e taking advantage of him while he was disadvantaged,
> if he does something (taking her blood) that he would
> not ordinarily do. Hmmmm.....
>
> But anyway, I sort of expect that he'll either take
> her blood at some point this season in some situation
> I haven't imagined yet, or they'll skip some of what
> happened while he had amnesia during season 4 (which
> would just plain annoy me).
Ok .. now I get why everyone was so fucking furious. ERIC gave blood to Sookie and AB turned it into the scene where the Doc comes in and leaves out the blood exchange.
Makes sense now.
DAMN YOU Alan Ball ... shaking fist and spitting...lol
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Oct 23, 2009 9:19 AM
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> > Ahh ... Mitch
> >
> > I KNEW I could count on you.
> >
> > Right you are. She did warn Eric not to drink
> from
> > Sookie.
> >
> > I think Sookie will get staked. It is such an
> > important element and AB has this golden
> opportunity
> > to serve up one of the most nuanced explicit
> sexual
> > scenes in American tv .. he will not be able to
> stop
> > himself ....HA
> >
> > Since I vamp speed read the books I can't
> really
> > recall how Eric ends up in the blue silk
> boxers.
> > There will ahve to be a reason he is dressed
> this way
> > to make the scene work with Sookie.
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> He undressed himself and sookie after she was healed
> by the vamp. Thats just eric he wanted to sleep with
> her and she was already in the bed so he just climbed
> in cuddled with her. Which is something he likes to
> do with her he also did it in the first part of the
> book
What are you doing?
Cuddling ... so precious and a beautiful scene in the book.
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Oct 23, 2009 9:17 AM
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Eric does not have Sookie's blood when she is staked, she just has his. So there's no reason staking can't go on as scheduled if AB is adverse to Eric having her blood.
Now, in the books, Eric has already had Sookie's blood by now -- he helped drain her of the Maenad's poison in Book 2 (along with Pam, Chow, and Bill). (Pam: "We took turns holding you in our lap. You were much admired. Bill was furious." LOL That Pam!).
Of course, that has not happened in TB, and paired with QSA's warning to "Don't. Ever." drink from Sookie, I'm sure there will be some sort of major significance when Eric finally DOES drink from her. I would think that needs to happen at some point before season/book 4, since they exchange blood while lovemaking during Eric's amnesia episode. Although, I suppose they could twist that as Sookie taking advantage of him while he was disadvantaged, if he does something (taking her blood) that he would not ordinarily do. Hmmmm.....
But anyway, I sort of expect that he'll either take her blood at some point this season in some situation I haven't imagined yet, or they'll skip some of what happened while he had amnesia during season 4 (which would just plain annoy me).
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