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Here is place to discuss certain oddities in the series -- it is easy to let them slip by and forget about them.
After all, some of these could be intended -- so the AB team is thinking, let's keep them guessing and then give them the answer!
On the other hand, they could just end being oversights, screw-ups or just plain poor story-telling.
I will start off with a couple of examples:
1. Why did Sookie insist on meeting Bill after the bar closed in the first episode - she could have asked him about talking at Gran's club right there and then. After all, a minute ago they were discussing matters of some intimacy, such the lack of male companions for Sookie.
2. Why did Sookie have to stop the car to think in the fourth episode? She can't hear Bill's thoughts anyway, and he agreed to turn off the music.
3. How come Merlotte's suddenly has Tru Blood in more than one variety, and the bar maids know that it should be served microwaved? Bill is their first vampire customerm and this is the first time he has had TruBlood in Merlotte's.
4. If being licked by a vampire heals wounds, then why do vampire bites take so long to heal (Maudette, Dawn and poor Jerry).
5. How come Jerry was not fully 'glamoured' that he was able to think about infecting the vampires with Hep D?
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 10, 2008 4:41 PM
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> I believe it was a type of shirt that he
> usually wears - semi-western look. If so, how can
> that be? How can he have his own clothes on? Unless
> he's borrowing Bill's, but Bill wears entirely
> different shirts than Sam.
Sam is wearing Bill's clothes. The shirt and pants fit a little big on him...you could totally tell. Also, the shirt had those flappy things on the shoulder, that's the type of shirt Bill wears.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 10, 2008 4:23 PM
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Bill has dress shirts and yes those are bills dress pants(sam wears jeans) so why not his shirt. I doubt that we've seen bills entire wardrobe......but anyway definitely bills style shirt that sam is wearing.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 10, 2008 12:35 AM
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After shifting back to his human self, Sam is naked, sleeping on the bed with Sookie. Later, they're sitting on the front porch and he's dressed. I'll have to watch again tomorrow to see the shirt he's wearing. I believe it was a type of shirt that he usually wears - semi-western look. If so, how can that be? How can he have his own clothes on? Unless he's borrowing Bill's, but Bill wears entirely different shirts than Sam.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 9, 2008 11:28 PM
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Okay, here's my question. Before Lettie Mae's exorcism, she is apparently told not to eat before the ritual. However, Tara had to have eaten or drunk something or she wouldn't be puking her guts out the way she did. And would her "stronger demon" require that she have a completly different ritual? And why couldn't Lettie Mae have been with her daughter the way Tara was with her mom?
Hope she spreads the word that Miss Jeanette is a con artist.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 9, 2008 6:41 PM
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On that note I'd also like to point out a quote from Sookie, "Oh & btw, not all vampires can take care of themselves".
We've seen both Bill & Eddie cry & Eddie admit to pain worse than anything as a human. We saw how easily the evil vampire 3 were killed by the evil redneck trio and all these things together suggest that in fact Vampires do feel & that they are very vulnerable, something I never noted about them until this show.
Bill-"Sometimes I glamour them for love." Sookie loves him without being glamoured, imagine how that must feel to Bill.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 9, 2008 11:45 AM
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> There has been debate about how if vampires have no
> feelings, how could Bill cry or experience love, or
> lust, etc.? I wonder if it has something to do with
> the "nest" theory-that those who live in nests, as
> Bill said-lose their semblances of humanity-so he,
> who lives alone, can still hold on to those things
> and therefore can experience some human feelings. On
> the other hand, I wonder how Pam and Eric live-alone?
> in a shared nest? just the two of them? any others?
> Because they still claim to have no feelings, but
> aren't totally brutal because they can run a
> business... Maybe it's a time share and they take
> turns with both sort of lifestyles?...
Or is it one of those things that vampires don't dare admit for it's seen as a weakness, I can think of no more a vulnerable time for a person than when they are in first love or clicking with a new love.
I think they do have feelings, but is one of those "weaknesses" they don't want getting around. Bill, Pam & Eric's comments make me pause. All Eddie wants is love. Malcolm lamenting over Jerry, Diane having a bit of jealousy & finally asking Bill to join their nest.
It's probably one of the problems vampires have when mainstreaming & why maybe some of the vampires don't want to tow the party line. "We don't want our weaknesses getting out."--Bill
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 9, 2008 10:44 AM
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There has been debate about how if vampires have no feelings, how could Bill cry or experience love, or lust, etc.? I wonder if it has something to do with the "nest" theory-that those who live in nests, as Bill said-lose their semblances of humanity-so he, who lives alone, can still hold on to those things and therefore can experience some human feelings. On the other hand, I wonder how Pam and Eric live-alone? in a shared nest? just the two of them? any others? Because they still claim to have no feelings, but aren't totally brutal because they can run a business... Maybe it's a time share and they take turns with both sort of lifestyles?...
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 8, 2008 10:41 PM
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Interesting theory, Shadaliza, but while what psychopaths think is different from those who are, for lack of a better term, mentally stable, they still have similar brainwaves to them. It's possible Amy compartmentalizes well and doesn't think of Eddie in her basement while she's at work.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 8, 2008 3:07 PM
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> My thinking on this is that like any other drug, V
> has different effects on different people.
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> Since Sookie has the unusual quality of being
> g telepathic and being immune to being glamoured, it
> might also mean she only gets the health effects from
> the V, not the psychoactive effects.
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I thought Sookie had seen some psychedelics when she went to Bill's house to masturbate on his steps. Clearly the trees got all breazy & turned acid green.
Also her heightened sense of smell & taste. Tasting the earth the herbs were grown in & seeing the farm the pigs lived on. Don't know about you but the whole affair sounded dirty to to me. Plus the poor girl couldn't sleep & mowed that whole lawn before 9am. Crazy.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 8, 2008 1:10 PM
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Why do vampires cry and fall in love if they don't have feelings? Seems to me they have plenty of feelings, including rage, humor, vengeance, longing, etc.
I think they have feelings, to paraphrase something Bill said - "Many lifetimes of feelings."
This probably means they have done it all, felt it all, and dealt with it all over and over. They probably build up "emotional callouses" over time so it takes more and more to get through to them.
This is why Bill's feelings for Sookie are so precious to him, IMO. He can't believe he cares for her so deeply. It is also a liability because now someone can use threatening Sookie to force Bill to do what they want.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 8, 2008 1:05 PM
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I only watched part of epi. 9. Look like Sookie had her mouth & eyes open when she got hurled on. How come she didn't get any super powers or go on a trip?
My thinking on this is that like any other drug, V has different effects on different people.
Since Sookie has the unusual quality of being telepathic and being immune to being glamoured, it might also mean she only gets the health effects from the V, not the psychoactive effects.
Just my best guess.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 8, 2008 11:50 AM
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> If Sookie doesn't keep her guard up constantly, she
> starts to hear other people's thoughts or sees
> images. I'm wondering, since she was so upset when
> she came to work the morning after Tina the cat was
> killed, how could she concentrate hard enough to
> block out the chatter? Therefore, I was waiting for
> her to hear Amy thinking about Eddie in the basement.
> Unless Amy is really able to totally 'live in the
> e now'.
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> Edited by cherylp at 11/08/2008 8:33 AM PST
I was wondering why she has not heard any of Amy's chattering either. I would think she would want to know what is going on in that girls head because she is hooking up with her brother and is a stranger to town.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 8, 2008 11:42 AM
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Amy is a psychopath, maybe her brain works in a different way and Sookie isn't able to pick up her thoughts.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 8, 2008 11:31 AM
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If Sookie doesn't keep her guard up constantly, she starts to hear other people's thoughts or sees images. I'm wondering, since she was so upset when she came to work the morning after Tina the cat was killed, how could she concentrate hard enough to block out the chatter? Therefore, I was waiting for her to hear Amy thinking about Eddie in the basement. Unless Amy is really able to totally 'live in the now'.
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Re: Inconsistencies, intended or unintended?
Nov 8, 2008 10:18 AM
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> Cherylp:
> Check out the thread "on the cubject of V"
> someone brought up a very interesting point:
> Why didn't Sookie have a reaction to being covered
> in Longshadow's blood/body parts ??????
She looked to be, basically, in shock, to me. And I suppose while Ginger was screaming, Sookie had to focus on breathing while having blood spewed at her.
Why do vampires cry and fall in love if they don't have feelings? Seems to me they have plenty of feelings, including rage, humor, vengeance, longing, etc.
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