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This tread is going to be for everyone to guess what's going to happen in next weeks episode. Please post any thought,suspicisons,guesses or ideas that you have here concerning a character,scene . The train will leave the station every Thursday at: 5:00 PM depending upon your timezone. Come prepared, and put your thinking caps on........... all aboard!!!!! VAMPIRES,MORTALS,WOLFS,HUMANS ALLOWED !!!! V**V V***V ![]:)](http://boards.hbo.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif)  , (\/) -- Edited by Marleneemm at 09/16/2008 2:17 PM PDT
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 17, 2009 8:24 AM
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Good morning peeps:
We've had a cold snap here in the desert southwest and I awakened to a chilly 30 degrees. It was great for sleeping, and I'm sipping very hot coffee, huddling around the computer, a blanket around me for warmth.
It seems that the few casting calls and the symposium spoilers we've received give no hint as to what is in store for Jessica. Poor girl, abandoned once again. If vampires had the equivalent of Child Protective Services, then someone should call them. Bill can't help the whole kidnapping thing, but he was rather derelict as a parent last season. Jessica is in need of vampire parental control. Now that I think about it, why don't vampires have Child Protective Services? Newly made children are supposed to be so unstable and mercurial and dangerous, it would seem to me if vampires want any chance of mainstreaming, they would be forced to contain a risk like an unsupervised newborn vampire. Then the newborn would be placed with its parent's "immediate family".
I like the idea of Pam having to take responsibility for Jessica for a little time. Anything to see more Pam, right? Jessica would be spending her nights at Fangtasia, where she would be exposed to fangbangers who would be lining up to get bitten by her. Remember Sookie's first trip to Fangtasia where the frat boys were dying to "make it with a vampire"? Jessica could don some black leather and satisfy the carnal lust of those boys while satisfying her own hunger, and all the while getting a knack of her sexuality, and learn that not all boys have the tenderness and kind heart of Hoyt. In other words, she could start the right of passage that all young women must go through in a manner that daddy Bill would be powerless to control. Jessica could learn some lessons of the heart the hard way.
The other thought that occurred to me is this: since Jessica has ingested Bill's blood, could she be useful in locating Bill? However, she didn't seem to know that Bill was being kept hostage by Lorena in Dallas, did she? It seems like a plot flaw. I just don't know. Jessica is the biggest question mark, plot wise, for S 3, so far.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 10:13 PM
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Thanks for the welcome! 
And thanks for not pointing out what a ridiculous idea that whole Jessica thing was.  It started out as a random thought but by the end of my post, I realized it just doesn't seem possible at all. The only reason I went ahead and posted it was so that those of you with more knowledge of the show can discuss the improbability of it also. I like reading feedback from you guys. I learn from your knowledge.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 9:19 PM
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sugrc, I've been remiss for not welcoming you sooner. Welcome to the railcar - put up your feet and rest a spell. We have Frescas!
I adore Jessica. On one hand, I don't like the idea of her in Bon Temps alone. Hoyt was keeping her together, and now that he's left and she's freaking out, being without guidance of some kind is a scary thought. Maybe Pam will come and babysit? ha! Also, I want her and Sookie and Bill to come to some sort of understanding. They really haven't had the opportunity to bond, and it is a very unusual little nest, but it has the potential to give each of them what they want most. Her being abandoned once again, albeit for a good reason (abduction has to count for something, right?), isn't going to help her and Bill. And I didn't care for the splintered plot-lines in S2, where all the characters were essentially doing their thing independently of each other. That said, at the moment, Jessica, as you so rightly pointed out, she's entirely too young to be of any use in Jackson. She'd be a liability, not an asset. I'm sure she'll be left at home.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 9:17 PM
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Mar you might right I think Stephen starts the 30th of November and Allan might start early.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 9:16 PM
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Latbfan:
Rclaurl Said something about Novemeber 30th???
Alan Ball let slip that they would start filming Nov 18th:
Now I don't know who to beleive?????
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 7:07 PM
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For some reason, I've been thinking about Jessica. We all know there's not going to be a Bubba... so maybe Jessica is sent along with Sookie to look for Bill since Bill is Jessica's maker. Then, maybe Jessica is the one that stakes her grandmaker -or whatever Lorena is to her.
Although the more I think about it, the more all that really doesn't seem likely. I think Jessica's just too new as a vamp to send her off on a mission such as that. She's still a bit unstable. Although she could focus and decide that she wants to prove herself able to handle those kind of situations. But really, I think she's just a little immature for all that.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 6:33 PM
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> I do like the notion of
> Eric doing the deed, just because it is just the kind
> of situation he would like to take advantage of.
It probably won't come to pass, but I have to smile when I think of Eric on the back-end of that deal. He'd be intolerable, with his cat-who-ate-the-canary grin and big, innocent eyes, all the while calmly suggesting that he's owed the world. It'd be a fabulous scene in terms of tension... *sigh* So many possibilities, so little time, right?
I know I'm Bill-biased, but I adore Eric, and I think AS plays him so well. I confess to cringing with the whole calling Lorena to Dallas play, but I really can't bring myself to hold it against him. If he's the one who takes her out, it'd actually be like him making amends for opening that gigantic can of worms, especially if Lorena is the one who took Bill (and how can it be anyone else?). Eric is, above all, loyal; I can see him going to great lengths to find Bill and make the situation right, even if all is fair in love and war.
> > Lorena's actually the most tragic of all the
> > characters. Bill is a tragic, too, but there's
> a
> > chance for him to get it right. He has the
> > opportunity to be absolved. Lorena loves Bill
> because
> > of who he is, but because of who he is, he'll
> never
> > be able to love her like that. And there is no
> second
> > chance for Lorena; there's no turning back for
> her.
> > She'll have to be killed at some point. The
> only
> > question that remains is when and by whom.
>
> That Lorena may be beyond the point of redemption is
> one of the things that makes her so fascinating to
> me. She seems lost forever from that young woman
> about to take her vows, the good little student who
> loved nature. If she ever gets to the point of
> finding that woman again, of recapturing what she
> was, the discovery alone will kill her. She won't be
> able to live with herself,.
I can never resist the urge to quote Harry Potter (and I'm wearing my Gryffindor t-shirt at the moment, so how terribly appropriate): You are so right, fulvia. It's like to put one's soul back together after ripping it, the process is almost always fatal. If Lorena were to find that place, yes, I believe it would kill her. But I also think the death of Bill would kill her. Despite his harsh words in Dallas, she can still feel a glimmer of hope. She'll hurt him, but she can't envision a world without him.
Poor Lorena. How I love her. How I'll be so sad to see her dead and gone... Oh! But the delicious havoc she'll bring in the meantime. *rubs hands in gleeful anticipation*
See, now I've done it again - I'm getting my hopes up. Didn't I learn anything? I should know better. But I find, when TB is involved, I just can't help myself...
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 6:03 PM
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> Okay, so as it turns out, I'm as bad as everyone
> else. Here's the link to the GQ spread of the
> TB-guys. They all look rather dashing in a tux
> (there's a shock, right?), but I very much like that
> SM is center-stage. Then again, he has lovely
> proportions (I'm biased, of course), and who doesn't
> look great in a $4000 jacket?
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> I love AS's short hair. SM's is shorter too. And no
> chops... Has anyone heard what they're going to do
> when they start filming in a couple of weeks?
>
> http://bayimg.com/BAeMdAACN
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> Edited by latbfan at 11/16/2009 12:42 PM PST
That certainly made Monday afternoon a little more bearable. 
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 5:45 PM
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True, AB never makes Bill's existence easy. Even though Lorena used to be Catholic, I don't see that being an issue for her in relation to taking her own life. Lorena's actions after her turning, her blood lust, her deliberate disregard of human life, appear to be giving the finger to the God she once loved, the God who allowed everything she held near and dear to her to be torn away. It is as though her actions are consciously flouting God. I can see her killing herself in utter desparation. She is just that tragic. However, you are probably right: it is too easy for Bill and Sookie. I do like the notion of Eric doing the deed, just because it is just the kind of situation he would like to take advantage of.
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> I thought the show did a wonderful job setting up the
> contrast between Lorena and Sookie in Dallas. Sookie,
> wearing white (again/still), very natural with soft
> hair and minimal make-up, versus Lorena with that red
> dress and red lipstick and coiffed 'do. If only
> Sookie had said, "He is mine" in that scene. I held
> my breath for it; I wanted her to so badly. But alas
> - maybe in S3...
You are right: the show did do a beautiful job of contrasting Lorena and Sookie: one dark, the other light. Sometimes, wardrobe does go a little overboard on the yellow for Sookie; yeah, we get it, she likes the sun. But, in this instance, Lorena wearing the silky dress, blood red lips, dripping sexuality, the dramatic eye make-up; she could not have been more physically opposite from Sookie's white suited, suntanned, perky innocence.
She
> said to Bill, in the hotel, that she was saving him
> from making a fool of himself - maybe that's why she
> takes him? Not to hurt him, but to "re-program" him,
> in an effort to make him see that he shouldn't be
> with a human? (That would go along with the little
> tidbits that have been spoiled about Bill interacting
> with other vampires from Mississippi during his
> absence.)
Well, there's an idea. Lorena kidnaps Bill not to torture but to brainwash. However, with the debate in this country about torture, (I cannot believe that I would ever see the day when we have to DEBATE whether it is alright to torture in this country!), I would suspect that AB is going to stay culturally relevant and have Bill tortured.
> Lorena's actually the most tragic of all the
> characters. Bill is a tragic, too, but there's a
> chance for him to get it right. He has the
> opportunity to be absolved. Lorena loves Bill because
> of who he is, but because of who he is, he'll never
> be able to love her like that. And there is no second
> chance for Lorena; there's no turning back for her.
> She'll have to be killed at some point. The only
> question that remains is when and by whom.
That Lorena may be beyond the point of redemption is one of the things that makes her so fascinating to me. She seems lost forever from that young woman about to take her vows, the good little student who loved nature. If she ever gets to the point of finding that woman again, of recapturing what she was, the discovery alone will kill her. She won't be able to live with herself,.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 3:42 PM
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Latbfan:
Don't feel bad~ that may end up being my screen
saver on my phone!!!
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Nov 16, 2009 3:40 PM
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Okay, so as it turns out, I'm as bad as everyone else. Here's the link to the GQ spread of the TB-guys. They all look rather dashing in a tux (there's a shock, right?), but I very much like that SM is center-stage. Then again, he has lovely proportions (I'm biased, of course), and who doesn't look great in a $4000 jacket?
I love AS's short hair. SM's is shorter too. And no chops... Has anyone heard what they're going to do when they start filming in a couple of weeks?
http://bayimg.com/BAeMdAACN
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 3:11 PM
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Latbfan:
Of course it was Lorena watching Bill and Sookie dance at that resturant!!!
She was in the balcony~the whole scene was told
from "Her point of view"!!!
She'll also do anything to get another chance at having a "life with William"~Lorena's so desperate for
love,especially his love that she can't take "NO for an
answer",no matter how many times he's rejected her!
Are you so sure that Sookie didn't say "He is MINE" in
the scenes in Godric's home~before the explosion and
before Godric told her to "Leave my juristicson before
DAWN"????? I could have sworn she told Lorena that
"He's made his choice and it's not YOU"!!!!
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 2:55 PM
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> The only other possibility I can come up with is that
> Lorena would kill herself , very dramatically, in
> some last ditch effort to drive a wedge between
> Sookike and Bill. She would have to do this in front
> of Sookie and Bill, trying her best to guilt Bill and
> tell him it was all his fault.
I hadn't thought of that... Maybe - we never know what the writers will do. But I don't see her ever giving up on Bill, and killing herself would be the ultimate in giving up. Not to mention, regardless of her relationship with God the past 250, she was devoutly Catholic. I can see her having serious issues with taking her own life. If she did, that would be the best-case scenario for Bill. But when has AB ever done what's best for Bill?
> Knowing Lorena's back story and spending the last few
> weeks in her head, I would imagine that Sookie is
> Lorena's worst nightmare: an echo of her human self.
> Losing Bill to a girl who was much like herself when
> n she was human must drive her to insanity. She has
> spent the last 250 years gorging herself on blood in
> a vain attempt to forget the horrors she herself
> experienced only to have the man she loves fall in
> love with someone innocent and good hearted. It has
> got to be the ulimate insult and betrayl.
I thought the show did a wonderful job setting up the contrast between Lorena and Sookie in Dallas. Sookie, wearing white (again/still), very natural with soft hair and minimal make-up, versus Lorena with that red dress and red lipstick and coiffed 'do. If only Sookie had said, "He is mine" in that scene. I held my breath for it; I wanted her to so badly. But alas - maybe in S3...
That's why it has to be Lorena watching Bill and Sookie at the restaurant from the balcony. It has to be. Can you imagine Lorena watching/listening to the proposal? She'd be so furious, and simultaneously so hurt. Here is this little girl getting everything that her heart most desires, and then, when Sookie doesn't accept? She said to Bill, in the hotel, that she was saving him from making a fool of himself - maybe that's why she takes him? Not to hurt him, but to "re-program" him, in an effort to make him see that he shouldn't be with a human? (That would go along with the little tidbits that have been spoiled about Bill interacting with other vampires from Mississippi during his absence.)
Lorena's actually the most tragic of all the characters. Bill is a tragic, too, but there's a chance for him to get it right. He has the opportunity to be absolved. Lorena loves Bill because of who he is, but because of who he is, he'll never be able to love her like that. And there is no second chance for Lorena; there's no turning back for her. She'll have to be killed at some point. The only question that remains is when and by whom.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 2:04 PM
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Fulvia:
Lorena should understand what William is going thru:
she went throught the same thing herself when she
was turned by the Gypsy Vampire.
William hates what "She has made him~and he's
very conflicted with what happened to him,the people
who he had to leave behind when he was turned".
Now do we know if Lorena left anyone behind???
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 16, 2009 1:46 PM
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> Fulvia:
> What also must be "driving Lorena nuts is that the
> person who turned her had such an evil nature that
> she's become such a Bad person/Vampire!"
> I wonder what she was like before she was turned?
> Was she someone who was kind and softspoken,
> didn't harm anyone???
> Lorena wants to see Sookie suffer in anyway she
> can be apart of: Lorena takes pleasure in making
> Sookie suffer~be it suffering of the heart or body.
Marlene:
Yes, I believe that Lorena wants others to suffer the same way that she herself has suffered.
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