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This tread is going to be for everyone to guess what's going to happen in next weeks episode. Please post any thought,suspicisons,guesses or ideas that you have here concerning a character,scene . The train will leave the station every Thursday at: 5:00 PM depending upon your timezone. Come prepared, and put your thinking caps on........... all aboard!!!!! VAMPIRES,MORTALS,WOLFS,HUMANS ALLOWED !!!! V**V V***V ![]:)](http://boards.hbo.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif)  , (\/) -- Edited by Marleneemm at 09/16/2008 2:17 PM PDT
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM
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> Here are some more spoilers, if you're interested.
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> http://truebloodnet.com/true-blood-season-3-spoilers-a
> lan-ball-writers-reveal/
Ericrocks:
Thanks. I've only had a short chance to read these spoilers and have to run, but appreciate your time in bringing it to our attention.
Hajni: Hi. *Waves* Very well said.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 3, 2009 11:50 AM
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Hello all...
It has been quite some time since I've visited the Railcar. It is I with whom Latbfan has been PMing, and this is one of the rare issues regarding the show that I still feel enough passion about to emerge from my earthen den and hop aboard the VE (as in those golden, halcyon days of old). I feel like Charles Ryder reminiscing about his youthful, charmed days at university and with the Marchmain family at Brideshead.
Please remember that these are merely my own personal feelings, my children. No flame wars, if you please.
Although I've purposely moved well out to the TB fringes, I do briefly scan the news about once a week or thereabouts; so I'd heard the whole uproar over the CH versus AB ("He said/She said"). In this, I actually agree with Ms. Harris. Ball should not have blurted this out at the Paley Panel. It was not his place to say. It was a private, informal conversation, and he should've respected this and kept his mouth shut. This -- coupled with the endless ad nauseum of the useless Team Bill/Team Eric rants -- is just one more example of why I no longer waste much time online. All of this shite for a show that, for me, is but a shadow of what it once was and could've been. It is no longer "popcorn for smart people". It is a cheap five pound block of welfare cheese distributed to the eager masses: an audience SO desperate and easily 'glamoured' that a McDonalds Happy Meal is considered haute cuisine. As the show has devolved, so has the audience and conversation. HBO Corporate Media/PR must, I am sure, be thrilled that hundreds of thousands of (mainly) women are doing their work for them.
I fully understand the meddlesome business side that contractually obligates Ball and the cast to speak/appear at certain, carefully selected events (Moyer even admitted as much to Regis: that he was actually quite nervous about doing these talk shows, but that he was obligated to do them according to his contract); however, it has descended to the level of a 'circus of flesh'. I find Ball especially galling given his numerous quotes about how he felt like such a whore of Hollywood/Babylon when he was a writer in the sitcom world. How he felt besmirched, used, sullied, and confined. How he would sit around wondering, "what the H*!! am I doing here with these people writing this schlock which I am forced to regurgitate to the masses and then smilingly reassure the industry executives that it's NOT total schlock?". He's spoken endlessly about the distaste he felt, and how he loves HBO because it is so different. It is NO different. He is now doing the exact same thing. He has become a burlesque Carnie hawking the TB beverage and pandering flesh... promising the audience that certain stars will already be naked (or at least almost so) in the very first episode of Season 3. Where is the Bearded Lady and the rest of the Freakshow? I do not remember him ever doing this lowbrow schtick for Six Feet Under or American Beauty. He kept his integrity. He's made the Faustian pact with the Devil and is now a victim of the show's lucrative financial success. The man is trapped within his own gilded cage. As TB gets pulpier, cheesier, and ever more popular... I believe that we shall see things sink further and further into the morass of mediocrity. I have vowed to keep my distance from this endeavor until June, when I will give True Blood ONE more brief chance to impress me with that rich emotional and spiritual resonance it so had in spades in the beginning: in the early part of that first Season, when I actually DID see a glimmer of something wondrously beautiful and profound (whilst still being fun). Something deeply moving. Something unique. Something I so rarely find in television... Truth. Spiritual truth. Emotional truth. Primal truth. Alas, to me, there is no more 'True' in True Blood.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 3, 2009 10:27 AM
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latbfan:
Part of what has been very apprehensive for season 3 of TB is the fact that season 2 was wildly popular for HBO. It was so hugely popular that I fear the show has now become the flagship for HBO original programming. As a result, will AB & Co., be under pressure to pander to the lowest commom denominator? What I fear is more of the shlock we got in the last three episodes. Will their popularity be their undoing? The end of the season was clearly not "popcorn for smart people", just junk food for the masses.
My hope is that the writers will look at the viewership stats for season 2 and realize that episode 9 was their high water mark. The season built and built in viewership up to that show and then fell off. Apparently, we were not the only ones tired of Maryanne and disappointed with the Queen.
Must run and actually work. Hate when that happens.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 3, 2009 9:53 AM
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> Let me take this opportunity to say that I have been
> able to watch some of the season 1 episodes that have
> been replaying on HBO this weekend. Much of season 1
> was absolutely brilliant, and that brilliance cannot
> be attributed to the sexual tension between Bill and
> Sookie alone. Part of what I adore about the first
> season is that even though we deal with supernatural
> phenomenon, the world created by CH and the show was
> believable. I bought into the notion that this was
> some parallel universe that existed. By the end of
> season 2, I did not buy into that notion. So much of
> the first season was sublime. *Sigh*
I've been PMing about this, but have decided to throw it out onto the VE, and maybe someone will wander in and want to play. Where has everyone been?
I've found that I actually hven't been online much myself this past week. I guess the pace just couldn't last forever, I haven't been over to the Vault since the whole he said/she said with AB and CH. I know it's just part of the 'biz and all, but that little bit of yuckiness through me over the edge. I'm sure I'll get over it at some point. I was just upset, especially since AB has so frequently discussed how he felt like such a whore to the industry before, and one of the reasons why he loves HBO so much is that he's not. Well, I hate to be the one to break it to him, but he's still a whore. And as much as I dislike some of CH's habits of getting on her website and spoiling and saying what she meant to write and etc., AB really shouldn't have shared a private conversation like that. It wasn't fair, and I shudder to think of what the blow-back must've been.
I religiously watched SFU. I didn't go online and whatnot like I have for TB, but I followed the press and read the interviews and etc. And it just wasn't this bad. Then again, SFU wasn't as popular. But the show, in many ways, is the same as TB. TB is more fun, yes, but the themes are the same. Exactly the same: love, Truth, family, extisential searching, uncertainty of death. The big things that matter are the same. At least, when TB is working, they're the same...
At Paley, when they said that it took until 1.5/1.6 to hit stride, I wanted to weep. That was the high-water mark, and they've yet to acheive it again.
And yes, I think where it worked in S1, the supernatural wasn't beyond the rhelm of possibility. Like AB said in those early interviews, the supernatural was just an extension of nature. It felt believable. And parts of S2 felt believable. It's when they take it too far that I just lose interest. I can handle Sookie being telepathic, but fairy-powers and magic blue lights throw me over the edge. I can handle vampires and weres, but Maryann was too much. FotS, Godric, AVL, crazy serial killer - sure. Zombie-orgies? Not so much. It's a fine line they have to walk, and I fear they're mucking about in big rubber boots.
June is such a long way off, but I continue to hope for the best, knowing that the cliff-hangers were extisential ones, and that the "theme" is supposed to be identity. We'll see...
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 3, 2009 9:30 AM
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Good morning, everyone!
fulvia, I don't think it's just teenaged-girls who are going to see New Moon. We have our tickets for the midnight show, and it's been sold out for ages now. It's on a school night, so I'm thinking there will be more people our age than little girls. Then again, if these books had come out when I was in high school, you would've had to pry me off the ceiling. I'm 30 and know better, and I still lost my mind. If I'd been 16... *shakes head* I'm not sure my parents would've forbid me from going to a midnight showing - they really weren't that actively involved. More likely, I just wouldn't have asked (thus I wouldn't have been disobeying), and would've gone anyway. 
Oh, Edward...
I hope she finishes the Midnight Sun project because I would LOVE New Moon from Edward. As painful as it is to read from Bella's POV, it would be even worse from Edward, but so very beautiful.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 3, 2009 8:08 AM
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Good morning like-minded peeps:
My, my but the train was traveling light yesterday. My company just left this morning, so I finally get a chance to get on the computer, and, apparently, I did not miss much.
Let me take this opportunity to say that I have been able to watch some of the season 1 episodes that have been replaying on HBO this weekend. Much of season 1 was absolutely brilliant, and that brilliance cannot be attributed to the sexual tension between Bill and Sookie alone. Part of what I adore about the first season is that even though we deal with supernatural phenomenon, the world created by CH and the show was believable. I bought into the notion that this was some parallel universe that existed. By the end of season 2, I did not buy into that notion. So much of the first season was sublime. *Sigh*
Marlene: Oh, not to worry: I already own both seasons of Rome on DVD, and watch them all the time, especially when I'm in the kitchen cooking.
latbfan: So you are re-reading New Moon? I just re-read it about a month ago, too, in anticipation of the movie and have to agree that Ms. Meyers really captures the heartache of losing that first love, doesn't she? I don't know that I have ever read any author that nails that total devastation of losing your great love like she did. I cried, too, so don't feel badly. The movie will be out November 20, so that is a little over two weeks from now and, I will hit an afternoon showing by myself since Computer Hog would rather put needles in his eyes than go see this movie with me. I don't have one friend here who will want to go, so I am sure I'll go solo, and put up with a theater full of breathless teens with their squeals of delight and endless giggling.
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Nov 2, 2009 2:04 PM
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Fulvia:
Mark your calander on NOV 17th HBO's releasing
"Rome" on DVD in both Blu-ray and regular DVD sets!!
Preorder a copy today!!!
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Nov 2, 2009 8:47 AM
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Fulvia:
Goodmorning to all~Hope that you weekend went well
I've left the daily newspapers on the side board,
there's hot coffee, some scones, and assorted cookies
Be back later.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Nov 2, 2009 7:58 AM
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Good morning peeps:
Good to see you whitefield1, and welcome back from your travels!
I've had company from out of town at the house since yesterday, which is why I have been absent. Didn't even have time to log-on until now. Somehow, having that extra hour did actually help.
I'm very happy that you liked the end for Godric. After spending all that time with him, it was tough to read about him dying, wasn't it? I'm grateful I didn't have to write that and latbfan did a lovely job with that tough task.
How was Halloween for everyone? Did anyone attend any parties? Did anyone dress up? I basically finished reading The Razor's Edge and handed out a small fortune's worth of snickers and baby ruth bars.
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Nov 2, 2009 7:51 AM
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Good morning, everyone. It certainly was quiet in here over the weekend. I hope everyone had a good one...
I started rereading New Moon last night. I'm such a sap, but I actually got teary. I did the first time I read it, too, when I bought all four books and consumed them in a 4-day (and night) marathon of fevered obsession. I was dragged to Twilight kicking and screaming, and then I made my friend stop at Walmart (the only store open that late) on the way home so I could buy the books.
When he leaves... And then there are the pages with just the months written on them... Oh! And Jacob. Sweet, sweet Jacob. *sigh*
What I love most about those books is their emotional authenticity, but since I read them in one very short setting, I'd forgotten how painful NM is to read. She really captures it though - the heartbreak. It's perhaps a bit melodramatic, but it feels so very real. I know they're for little teenaged-girls, but I'm very much enjoying the reread.
Is anyone else getting ready for the movie?
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Nov 1, 2009 3:14 PM
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Stumbling aboard; hand to forehead, I sink into a windowseat on the empty train and relax awhile. I have been traveling and have not been near a train station in a while but I did keep up with Godric's story and fulvia and latbfan you finsihed it off with elan!
Fulvia, you history is wonderful and has truly added a dimension to Godric that I am afraid the TB writers will never be able t touch. A tip of the hat and a low salaam to you!
Latbfan; I did not want to walk Godric into the sun again but you gave us such interesting dialogue and events between bomb and the arrival of Nan that I was able to swallow the bitter pill. Well done and thank you also for organizing the RR. It was fun and if you all will have me I would like to join the next one after the holidays...it should help pass the long, dark winters nights when I can wish for a viking companion by the fire.
Well, I better move along; thanks Marleneemm for the bagel and lox; it is cool enough in the car I don't think they could have spoiled yet. I passed on the pumpkin muffins; after yesterday I am all pumpkined out--until Tday that is!
Take care all, I''ll sneak by another time!
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Nov 1, 2009 10:08 AM
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Latbfan:
I creep into the train~it's real quiet,guess everyone's
recovering from last night's fun times??
I leave the Sunday papers, some Lox,bagels and
scallon cream cheese and also some pumpkin muffins
I creep back out and head home~I will stop by later.
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Oct 31, 2009 10:02 AM
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PIPER!!!!!!
latbfan hops up and down exuberently, although sad that she missed her old commuter. She fixes a plate and settles into her favorite chair.
Good morning, everyone. rclaurel is the one who so graciously posted the Lorena backstory. And you summed up the tibdet - that's all there was. Precious little.
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Oct 31, 2009 9:56 AM
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Fulvia,
Good morning to everyone who's aboard!!!!
I've left hazelnut french vanilla coffee, the Saturday
papers,there magazines, puzzels and oh, yes,
I've baked some delicious orange cranberry muffins
and some pumpkin cranberry ones also.
Don't forget that tonight's the last 4 episodes of
Season 1 on HBO Signature
HAPPY HALLOWEEN ALL~ THAT MEANS GHOSTS,
WITCHES,VAMPIRES,WEREWOLFS,SHAPESHIFTER~~~
AND HUMAN WANNABE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! V**V (V)
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