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This tread is going to be for everyone to guess what's going to happen in next weeks episode. Please post any thought,suspicisons,guesses or ideas that you have here concerning a character,scene . The train will leave the station every Thursday at: 5:00 PM depending upon your timezone. Come prepared, and put your thinking caps on........... all aboard!!!!! VAMPIRES,MORTALS,WOLFS,HUMANS ALLOWED !!!! V**V V***V ![]:)](http://boards.hbo.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif)  , (\/) -- Edited by Marleneemm at 09/16/2008 2:17 PM PDT
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 3:09 PM
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> A have a few friends who read the books beforehand
> and they adore Bill. He did/does have a big fan
> base. I think the readers and viewers care about the
> 3 characters of Bill, Sookie and Eric. If Laffy dies
> or not doesn't really matter too much. We'll be sad
> to see him go but then that's it. Whereas, if one of
> the trinity dies - well OMG - hang on. I think that
> some of the readers feel betrayed because because
> Eric and Bill are portrayed so different. Which
> causes the small feuds we have occasionally. I
> believe that the show influenced CHs Book Nine.
Hi, Twitche:
I am so glad you said that you thought that the show influenced book 9; me, too. Before book 9, Bill was absolutely on the back burner, Sookie having very little interest in him. After the first season aired, it is as though Bill all of a sudden became a viable love interest for Sookie again. Now, Charlene Harris admits that she was thinking of killing Bill off. After the series, not so much.
Sookie, Bill and Eric in a three way? Now, that's what I call ground breaking television.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 3:08 PM
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Twitche:
What do you find wrong with Tara's hair??
Are you refferring to some of the "nutty styles that
they had going on when she was with Maryanne"??
If that's the case Maryanne's dead and gone and
hopefully never to be heard of again.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 3:05 PM
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> A have a few friends who read the books beforehand
> and they adore Bill. He did/does have a big fan
> base. I think the readers and viewers care about the
> 3 characters of Bill, Sookie and Eric. If Laffy dies
> or not doesn't really matter too much. We'll be sad
> to see him go but then that's it. Whereas, if one of
> the trinity dies - well OMG - hang on. I think that
> some of the readers feel betrayed because because
> Eric and Bill are portrayed so different. Which
> causes the small feuds we have occasionally.
I know you and I have disagreed about this before, but I really don't think the Trinity is that different from books to show. Some aspects are different, yes. But in all honesty, we don't really get to see Eric or Bill that much in the books. For books about vampires, Sookie spends a lot of time not with them, and she's not the most reliable of narrators. I know that Team Eric has a laundry list of complaints about AB's Eric, but I think he's captured some of the best parts of Eric. Eric in the books, not even in #4, is never as vulnerable as 2.9 on the roof. And there's that subtle ennui that AS does so very convincingly, as well as my personal favorite aspect of Eric, which is his sense of playfulness. Eric in TB didn't stake Longshadow and had Bill dragged before the Tribunal, which was way uncool. But I strongly suspect he had valid reasons for that, and he did give Bill an out. If Bill had agreed to hand over Sookie, he would not have stood before the Magister. Fair? No. But as Eric himself says in LDiD, it's "opportunistic," which is exactly what I expect from someone who's managed to survive 1,000 years. Eric tricked Sookie into drinking his blood in the book too. And he did terrorize Lafayette, but as Bill said, most would've done far worse. Lafayette was breaking major taboo by selling V, which he knew because he told Jason. So I think Eric's "villianhood" is vastly overstated.
> All three of them. They could change the name of
> the show to "My Two Vampies." Ha! (I suspect SM
> mentioning the love scene with AS was dne in jest.
> What a bummer!
>
> Oh that is too funny. Sookie sandwiched in between
> Bill and Eric - oh my - it's getting hot in here.
I know they'll never do it for real - HBO already has Big Love. But I do hope someone, at some point, has a dream or two. Please. Pretty, pretty please.
> Okay I posted this on the Tara thread but no one has
> responded. I know I"m a hard head but. What is
> going on with Tara's hair? We go on and on about
> Bill, Sookie and Eric's hair but this girl needs an
> intervention. She is so pretty. Maybe a petition to
> TB. Is it just me?
RW looks so different when she's not in the braids. Softer. I assume, like all the other horrible explanations for bad hair/wardrobe, that they're actively making her a hard-a**. But yes. Poor Tara has enough problems without bad hair, too.
Speaking of Poor Tara, seriously, how on earth is she, of all people (because she's not a vampire-fan), going to convincingly go with Franklin Mott so soon after Eggs?
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 3:03 PM
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Me again - Over on the spoiler thread there is an interesting discussion about the books and Eric / Bill.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 2:50 PM
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Latbfan: Hello!
I don't think Bill had a huge fan base until AB and SM's interpretation, but since #9 came out after S1, I can see her rethinking killing him off. In the end, it shouldn't matter what she does wth the books. She killed Lafayette, after all, and that certainly didnt stop AB and the writers from keeping him in the show. She could really do whatever she wanted, and it would have minimal effect on TB. I suspect, though, given her rapid responce and the particular wording, that there were many cries of protest when AB said she had to be talked out of killing off Bill
A have a few friends who read the books beforehand and they adore Bill. He did/does have a big fan base. I think the readers and viewers care about the 3 characters of Bill, Sookie and Eric. If Laffy dies or not doesn't really matter too much. We'll be sad to see him go but then that's it. Whereas, if one of the trinity dies - well OMG - hang on. I think that some of the readers feel betrayed because because Eric and Bill are portrayed so different. Which causes the small feuds we have occasionally. I believe that the show influenced CHs Book Nine. So many fans love TB Bill and are buying and reading her books. If she kills him off - then she has lost a lot of revenue.
All three of them. They could change the name of the show to "My Two Vampies." Ha! (I suspect SM mentioning the love scene with AS was dne in jest. What a bummer!
Oh that is too funny. Sookie sandwiched in between Bill and Eric - oh my - it's getting hot in here.
Okay I posted this on the Tara thread but no one has responded. I know I"m a hard head but. What is going on with Tara's hair? We go on and on about Bill, Sookie and Eric's hair but this girl needs an intervention. She is so pretty. Maybe a petition to TB. Is it just me?
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 2:35 PM
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> > > Latbfan:
> > > Why are you so "against an amnesiac Eric
> > running
> > > around BonTemps"???
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> > Maybe she hasn't read book 4.
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> Aposmeal and Marlene,
>
> This is just me but - I didn't like that Eric wasn't
> himself. That Sookie only liked him when he was
> clinging to her without his memory. I would have
> rather had Sookie and Eric come to an understanding
> with both of them with all their senses. While I did
> like the 'action' between the two, it just wasn't
> real.
I read the books before TB, and while I didn't froth at the mouth over them the way I do with the show, I thought they were fun. And, in the books, there's really no competition between Bill and Eric - of course Eric's the better choice. I've posted this before, so not to bore everyone with a resistation, I'm just going to nod enthusiastically and point to what Twitche wrote.
> Latbfan: Thank you for posting the CH announcement.
> I personally think it's true the way AB said it.
> . While reading the book it felt like he was going
> to die and then bammo Bill's alive. From a book
> selling standpoint it makes perfect sense to keep
> Bill in the books because he has such a huge fan
> base. CH has also stated that Alcide will be back,
> as well as the Fae.
I don't think Bill had a huge fan base until AB and SM's interpretation, but since #9 came out after S1, I can see her rethinking killing him off. In the end, it shouldn't matter what she does wth the books. She killed Lafayette, after all, and that certainly didnt stop AB and the writers from keeping him in the show. She could really do whatever she wanted, and it would have minimal effect on TB. I suspect, though, given her rapid responce and the particular wording, that there were many cries of protest when AB said she had to be talked out of killing off Bill.  I can't imagine, but she must have a very love-hate relationship with the show. After all, while she was doing alright before TB, she's doing a whole lot better now. But the show has opened up the books, and the plot of TB will continue to deviate even more as the series progresses. *shrugs* She can dry her eyes on the fat checks, I suppose. Not all writers give away everything when they sell the rights to their books - JK Rowling famously had Steven Spielberg taken off the table from directing th first movie because he was convinced the Sixth Sense kid would be a perfect Harry Potter. You gotta love the balls it must've taken to march up to Warner Bros. exec and declare that Steven Speilberg had to go.
> Fulvia - hello! I'm totally with you regarding Bill
> and Eric. They are both interesting, dynamic
> characters - why can't we just enjoy them? Why do we
> have to pick and choose?
I'm still holding out for an honest-to-goodness LOVE TRIANGLE, as in all three parties legitimately care for each other, not just two guys chasing Sookie. And both Eric and Bill are interesting, vibrant characters with baggage and perks. They need to work out their issues and live in sin. All three of them. They could change the name of the show to "My Two Vampies." Ha! (I suspect SM mentioning the love scene with AS was dne in jest. What a bummer!) Oh, plus Lafayette. And Pam. And Jessica. And Sam could stop by from time to time just because he's so adorable. What a crazy, crazy nest!
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 2:20 PM
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> > Latbfan:
> > Why are you so "against an amnesiac Eric
> running
> > around BonTemps"???
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> Maybe she hasn't read book 4.
Aposmeal and Marlene,
This is just me but - I didn't like that Eric wasn't himself. That Sookie only liked him when he was clinging to her without his memory. I would have rather had Sookie and Eric come to an understanding with both of them with all their senses. While I did like the 'action' between the two, it just wasn't real.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 2:17 PM
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Hi Everyone,
Blue: I totaly agree with you regarding the spoilers - there's no point in getting all worked up because you just don't know. At this point, I think they are throwing things out to see how we react.
Latbfan: Thank you for posting the CH announcement. I personally think it's true the way AB said it. While reading the book it felt like he was going to die and then bammo Bill's alive. From a book selling standpoint it makes perfect sense to keep Bill in the books because he has such a huge fan base. CH has also stated that Alcide will be back, as well as the Fae.
Fulvia - hello! I'm totally with you regarding Bill and Eric. They are both interesting, dynamic characters - why can't we just enjoy them? Why do we have to pick and choose?
The Godric RR - THANK YOU Latbfan for organizing that little bit of genius. Everyone who contributed - Great Job!
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 10:59 AM
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> Latbfan:
> Why are you so "against an amnesiac Eric running
> around BonTemps"???
Maybe she hasn't read book 4.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 10:11 AM
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Latbfan:
Why are you so "against an amnesiac Eric running
around BonTemps"????
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 10:07 AM
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Sorry for the double-post, but rclaurel passed this along from the CH website (THANK YOU), and I'm now passing it along to you:
6947 duckpond100 2009-10-29 18:31
I understand that Alan was commenting on the differences between the future of the series and the plot of the books at Paleyfest, and remarked that I'd been "talked out of" killing Bill. That's leaving an inaccurate impression with many readers, my moderators have told me.
Unfortunately, in a conversation with Alan some months ago I did tell him that when I was finishing DEAD AND GONE I did consider the possibility that Bill might die in the fairy assault on the field hospital. I did not realize that Alan might remember and repeat my words. During the course of the Sookie series, I've considered killing off several characters who haven't bitten the dust yet and may never. That's one of the choices a fiction writer considers with every book. And you'll notice that in the end, I decided that Bill had more story to tell.
So please don't give Alan's words any more weight than they're due, or blow them out of proportion. It never occurred to me that he might repeat a casual remark of mine about a possibility that never came to pass.
Charlaine Harris
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 9:32 AM
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Hello everyone! Thanks for the link for the audio. As soon as I put my baby down for his nap, I'm all over it. (He was up half the night anyway, so early nap today; I love finding silver linings!) And yes, the Vault recap was different than the other link yesterday. My not-having-had-enough-coffee-yet brain latched onto "Fans of amnesiac Eric have to wait until S4" bit. Does that mean there will be an amnesiac AS running around Bon Temps? AUGH! No!!!!!! I mean, I realize that it's Halloween and all, but that's just plain too scary...
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 7:54 AM
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Good morning peeps:
Waves "hi" to Twitche who is not here enough, and "hi" to Blue who I am glad is back from her day of appointments and sounds healthy.
Last night, I reviewed some of the articles at the Vault, and their recap of the Paley writers event was a bit different from the link that moreeric provided. I really, if I have time today, just need to listen to the entire recorded event that was so generously provided.
Here are the main points I gleaned from the Vault article: SPOILER
1) Bill is not going to be marginalized: Stephen Moyer will have plenty of screen time in season three;
2) Bill and Sookie go through a long rough patch in season three;
3) Bill and Sookie have a connection that will never die;
4) Bill's secret about why he is Bon Temps, (at behest of the Queen to seduce Sookie), will be revealed, at some point, which does not mean, I suppose, that it must be in season three.
After thinking long and hard about all of this, little of the information brings any clarity. First, if Bill is not marginalized, then all that tells me is that Stephen Moyer will have lots of screen time. It does not tell me a thing about the plot. He could have a lot of screen time and still be kidnapped a majority of the season, or it could mean that the kidnapping plot is completely changed up. Thanks, Mr. Ball for all that opaqueness.
Second, Bill and Sookie go through a long rough patch. That tells me only that they are some relationship problems in season three. Do they break-up? If so, there is no hint of the reason why. Which takes me to whether they break-up because of Bill's secret mission from the Queen, or because of other reasons, I don't know.
Third: Bill and Sookie have a connection that will never die. That is about as open to interpretation as possible. What does that specifically mean? They will always love one another? They will always e friends, even if not in love anymore? They will always have plots on the show that revolve around one another?
So, all of this just raised more questions than it answered. I am going to have to listen to the whole event with a critical ear just to satisfy my curiosity. Has anyone listened to it yet? If so, fess up, please and let me know what you thought.
Thanks.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 7:44 AM
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Howdy Fanpires! I just wanted to let you know I haven't had a chance to read the latest chapters because my computer really wore out and I'm getting my hard drive replaced. This is the other computer and too creepy to use. Hope to be back on my other computer in a day or two.
Happy Halloween!
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 2:24 AM
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Bluetkg:
I know that we've gone over this before but I have
to get this off of my chest:
I rewatched the first episode of Season 1 tonight,
and I have to clear up something:
Sookie met William Thomas Compton on
night 1/Epsiode 1 and he was drained that same night
by the Rattray's. Sookie helped him by attacking them,
and saving him~But she was NOT attacked by them
that night~the next scene we see Sookie in was
outside of her house,wearing a green/white bikini &
white shades when her brother Jason showed up~~~
Then we see her that night at Merlotte's and she's
on duty, she served Bill a bottle of "trueBlood" and
they went outside and she asked if he would talk
at Adele's group~ He said he would.~ Then he left her, after work she went to her car and then the
Rattray's attacked her, this took place at the end of
Episode 2/night2-beginning of Night2/Epiosde 3:
Episode 3 is when Sookie first got Bill's blood!!!!
Sookie getting Bill's blood did not happen on Episode1/Night 1~and he had not even bit her yet~~
That didn't happen till "ColdGround/Epsiode 6".
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