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This tread is going to be for everyone to guess what's going to happen in next weeks episode. Please post any thought,suspicisons,guesses or ideas that you have here concerning a character,scene . The train will leave the station every Thursday at: 5:00 PM depending upon your timezone. Come prepared, and put your thinking caps on........... all aboard!!!!! VAMPIRES,MORTALS,WOLFS,HUMANS ALLOWED !!!! V**V V***V ![]:)](http://boards.hbo.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif)  , (\/) -- Edited by Marleneemm at 09/16/2008 2:17 PM PDT
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 31, 2009 8:47 AM
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Piperpals skulks onto the railcar, checks out the Sleeping Foursome tucked underneath an orange and black afghan, and quietly puts a cinnamon apple coffee cake, a chocolate fudge cake and a carafe of French roast coffee down on the table. Sighing, she blows a kiss to the railcar passengers, and heads back out the door.
I miss you all so much! I am just swamped and can't seem to find ANY time to visit my favorite train!
Hope you all have a wonderful Halloween, and that Bill (or Eric or Sookie) haunt your dreams tonight!
Hugs,
Piperpals
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 31, 2009 12:31 AM
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Bluetkg:
Feel better lady~take it real easy.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 10:14 PM
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Ok Mar, nuff said.
I agree with you about the 1st & 2nd nights anyway.
Kiss, kiss.
Blue
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 9:10 PM
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Bluetkg:
Sorry if I misdirected my post to you.
I'm trying to clear up from a while back concerning
when Sookie first had Bill's blood:
It was the second night~not the night that Sookie
saved Bill from being drained by the Rattray's~That
was the first night.
Bill gave Sookie his blood the night the Rattray's kicked her in the ribs,kidney.
Hope that clears it up~ and also I love the last two
chapters of the round robin!!!
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 8:42 PM
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Blue:
I hope you are recovering rapidly from your surgery and all is well.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 8:40 PM
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Evening all:
I usually am not crude BUT, I will make an exception...
WTF Mar??: re your comments addressed directly to me on 10/30 @2:24am that you had to get "off your chest" about Ep1 seas1 and when Bill /Sookie drank each other's blood due to the Rattray attack. I never even mentioned that at all!
I never even alluded to it in any of the comments I have ever made that I can recall since G-d knows when. I don't see that as an issue. I believe you may have my posts confused with someone else.
I have no quarrel with you or anyone else on here and have no desire to start one. Please admit your misinterpretation and if you still see me at odds with you in some way, please do me the courtesy to explain how and what I may have done. I was the one defending you and backing you awhile back, when you were getting allot of flack from all sides.
Geez, I've only been back on here a few days and already the water's hot. Give me a break.
fulvia: Ok so I'm a Bill's girl, right? Any doubts?
BUT I would never wreck my plasma flat screen because of Eric's bad boy shenanigans. LOL. I know you are kidding. I actually like seas 2 Eric much better than seas 1 Eric and I can certainly see his appeal. I just don't happen to want him with Sookie.
latb: I agree with you about CH and Bill. I said ages ago that IMO, Bill was the embodiment of all the guys that had done CH wrong in her life, or maybe even one guy in particular. IMO, CH is the one that set up the Eric/good-Bill/bad storyline and it has been up to AB to try to sort through that in a more rational way so as to make Trueblood more interesting and compelling and give the fans of both a fair chance. If AB stuck to the books the way CH wrote them, I doubt that the TB/Sookie book fan community would be as large. It seems in tv, you have to have a triangle, as so many of you have stated, just to keep the story flowing. Each rival has to be somewhat viable a choice to keep us tuned in, otherwise all that would be left are Eric fans and everyone else would have bailed by now, losing half the audience. I agree CH pumped up Bill's part in the later book because TB took off and she probably smelled a little extra $.
I have enjoyed Eric's dry humor this past seas and I hope that somehow the writers will pick Bill's mood up eventually. I know getting kidnapped and tortured might not be seen as a humorous situation this seas, but Bill's droll attitude most of the time, gets to me. I know he is supposed to be full of angst and regret, but come on, wasn't it really great to see him smiling and happy as he did the swing dance with Sookie? Eric has had 1000 years to adjust to his "life" and adapt to the human world and Bill is a babe in the woods compared to that. Maybe eventually in coming seasons (I pray there are more coming seasons) Bill will lighten up. I truly hope so and I hope AB gives Bill the chance to show he can also adapt.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 6:40 PM
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> ; > Also, while I am on the topic, let me say how
> > > disappointed I was that the show had Eric
> > summon
> > > Lorena. (I don't think this will
> ultimately
> > make
> > > much difference to Sookie, although it did
> > nothing to
> > > endear him to her right now). For all his
> > trickery,
> > > summoning Lorena backfired on Eric. He
> wanted
> > Bill
> > > out of the way, but all it did was delay
> Sookie
> > > getting out of the basement of the FatS,
> and
> > created
> > > a huge mess. Sookie can't escape to tell
> > everyone
> > > she knows where Godric is because her
> boyfriend,
> > the
> > > one vamp she is bonded to and can sense
> her
> > being in
> > > danger, is being held captive.
> >
> > Humm... not sure I agree with this. Do you think
> bill
> > would have rushed in and saved Sookie? Eric said
> it
> > best when stating that Bill was so irrational
> that he
> > would have killed every child ( or person) in
> the
> > building to save her.... How would that have
> been
> > helpful? I think it would have made it much
> worse and
> > many more people would have died. Thank God for
> the
> > Sheriff's clear and logical decision making
> process.
>
>
> Well, this is why we have the boards: to disagree and
> brainstorm. I think that since Bill was bonded with
> Sookie, Eric would have been much better served to
> work in conjunction with Bill, not against Bill. If
> Sookie was in danger, they both could have known and
> then if Eric thought that Bill would act
> recklessly, he could have saved Sookie. As it was,
> Sookie was forced to spend the night at FoTS when she
> could have been rescued 24 hours prior. I don't
> believe Eric when he says that Bill would have killed
> everyone.
> >
> >
> > So, by summoning
> > > Lorena, Eric endangers Sookie and delays
> > finding
> > > Godric.
> >
> > Eric didn't endanger Sookie ... he saved her,
> in
> > fact, he offered his life for her release.
> Godric
> > endangered her by going there in the first
> place.
> > The other vamps boyfriend endangered Sookie by
> being
> > g a lying snitch. The woman vamp endangered her
> by
> > being involved with a snitch to begin with. And
> it
> > was all Sookie's idea to go there to begin with
> ...
> > how is this Eric's fault again?
>
> Actually, Eric didn't save Sookie. Ultimately,
> Godric did, with the help of sharpshooting Jason.
> Eric was chained up on an alter waiting to be
> e sacrificed for Godric. I am not blaming the
> character, I am blaming the writing. It was much
> more drama for Bill to be kidnapped, and I loved
> Lorena and all her near psychosis. I am merely
> stating that I think Eric is a character with a lot
> of intelligence and finesse. I wasn't happy that
> they wrote him; I don't think the character would
> have blundered so much.
Some good points. I too, for some odd reason, love Lorena and her glorious psychosis.
I really think that Eric did not trust Bill and KNEW for a fact that he might go psycho if Sookie was in danger. Again, he recognized the RISK she was taking so and he was not going to include Bill.
Its semantics and silly as hell to say that it was Eric that saved everyone in the sense that he offered his body KNOWING that this decision would bring forth Godric ... he knew godric would not let him die. yeah yeah I know ...reaching ...lol
Okay Okay ... i SAID I was reaching !!!!!!
I think the scene was written that way in order to set up the up coming events with the godric storyline. Bill has no relationship with G so it had to be Eric. Plus ... I freakin LOVE that ep and it gave Eric the chance to offer his life for Sookie .. as a Eric fan i love that, of course.
Hey thanks very much for the back and forth exchange.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 6:21 PM
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Fulvia:
You know the one of the last chapters that was written in the "fanfiction~the one where godric and
Eric have that conversation about why he summoned
Lorena to Dallas"~where it tells about Eric's feelings
for Sookie~that's the flashback we should be getting
in Season 3 from Alan Ball.
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 6:10 PM
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; > Also, while I am on the topic, let me say how
> > disappointed I was that the show had Eric
> summon
> > Lorena. (I don't think this will ultimately
> make
> > much difference to Sookie, although it did
> nothing to
> > endear him to her right now). For all his
> trickery,
> > summoning Lorena backfired on Eric. He wanted
> Bill
> > out of the way, but all it did was delay Sookie
> > getting out of the basement of the FatS, and
> created
> > a huge mess. Sookie can't escape to tell
> everyone
> > she knows where Godric is because her boyfriend,
> the
> > one vamp she is bonded to and can sense her
> being in
> > danger, is being held captive.
>
> Humm... not sure I agree with this. Do you think bill
> would have rushed in and saved Sookie? Eric said it
> best when stating that Bill was so irrational that he
> would have killed every child ( or person) in the
> building to save her.... How would that have been
> helpful? I think it would have made it much worse and
> many more people would have died. Thank God for the
> Sheriff's clear and logical decision making process.
Well, this is why we have the boards: to disagree and brainstorm. I think that since Bill was bonded with Sookie, Eric would have been much better served to work in conjunction with Bill, not against Bill. If Sookie was in danger, they both could have known and then if Eric thought that Bill would act recklessly, he could have saved Sookie. As it was, Sookie was forced to spend the night at FoTS when she could have been rescued 24 hours prior. I don't believe Eric when he says that Bill would have killed everyone.
>
>
> So, by summoning
> > Lorena, Eric endangers Sookie and delays
> finding
> > Godric.
>
> Eric didn't endanger Sookie ... he saved her, in
> fact, he offered his life for her release. Godric
> endangered her by going there in the first place.
> The other vamps boyfriend endangered Sookie by being
> g a lying snitch. The woman vamp endangered her by
> being involved with a snitch to begin with. And it
> was all Sookie's idea to go there to begin with ...
> how is this Eric's fault again?
Actually, Eric didn't save Sookie. Ultimately, Godric did, with the help of sharpshooting Jason. Eric was chained up on an alter waiting to be sacrificed for Godric. I am not blaming the character, I am blaming the writing. It was much more drama for Bill to be kidnapped, and I loved Lorena and all her near psychosis. I am merely stating that I think Eric is a character with a lot of intelligence and finesse. I wasn't happy that they wrote him; I don't think the character would have blundered so much.
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Oct 30, 2009 5:48 PM
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> Twitche:
> You read the chapter about Michlangelo!!!
> I thought that was so beautiful!.
Yes, it was lovely.
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Oct 30, 2009 5:45 PM
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Twitche:
You read the chapter about Michlangelo!!!
I thought that was so beautiful!.
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Oct 30, 2009 5:34 PM
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> > I feel that Eric in the show is different than
> the
> > books. I like them both and I'm not
> complaining
> > about either but I find them different. ITBs he
> is
> > upfront about his interest but never tries to
> > initiate a rift between Bill and Sookie. He
> just
> > waits for things to unfold. He does nice things
> for
> > her, such as re-graveling her driveway. She
> doesn't
> > ask for it - he just does it. Whereas, ITS -
> Eric
> > instigates Lorena and works at undermining
> Bill.
> > He's kidnapping and torturing humans in his
> > s basement, etc. I just don't see how Sookie
> will
> > ever truly love him knowing those sorts of
> things.
>
> Hi, Twitche:
>
> You are right about the show changing things up with
> regard to Eric doing nice things for Sookie, just
> because he wants to. He notices what she needs and
> he makes sure she doesn't go without. So, far, in
> the series, that hasn't happened. I was really
> disappointed in the episode after Sookie gets
> scratched where she negotiates extra money from Eric
> to go to Dallas so she could gravel her own driveway.
>
>
> Also, while I am on the topic, let me say how
> disappointed I was that the show had Eric summon
> Lorena. (I don't think this will ultimately make
> much difference to Sookie, although it did nothing to
> endear him to her right now). For all his trickery,
> summoning Lorena backfired on Eric. He wanted Bill
> out of the way, but all it did was delay Sookie
> getting out of the basement of the FatS, and created
> a huge mess. Sookie can't escape to tell everyone
> she knows where Godric is because her boyfriend, the
> one vamp she is bonded to and can sense her being in
> danger, is being held captive.
Humm... not sure I agree with this. Do you think bill would have rushed in and saved Sookie? Eric said it best when stating that Bill was so irrational that he would have killed every child ( or person) in the building to save her.... How would that have been helpful? I think it would have made it much worse and many more people would have died. Thank God for the Sheriff's clear and logical decision making process.
So, by summoning
> Lorena, Eric endangers Sookie and delays finding
> Godric.
Eric didn't endanger Sookie ... he saved her, in fact, he offered his life for her release. Godric endangered her by going there in the first place. The other vamps boyfriend endangered Sookie by being a lying snitch. The woman vamp endangered her by being involved with a snitch to begin with. And it was all Sookie's idea to go there to begin with ... how is this Eric's fault again?
Would the entire church showdown even have
> occurred had Eric not summoned Lorena? He screwed up
> his own mission.
His mission was to get Godric out and, in the end, to save Sookies life ... in which he did both.
You'd think a thousand year old
> vampire would just know better.
Well he knew enough to bring Lorena in to keep Bill out of the way so he could accomplish his mission. he knew the risk Sookie was taking by going to the FOS and the last thing he needed was a hysterical Bill making irrational decisions putting Sookie and Godric at further risk.
The plot in that
> story line was just a bit thin.
I don't think so. I thought it was brilliant
>
> Whew. I think I just ranted.
Me too ...lol. I've responded to simply offer a different viewpoint which is what makes this SO fun for all of us.
I could be wrong but this is how I viewed this ep.
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Oct 30, 2009 5:06 PM
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> IMO Sookie will die in the end leaving an Eric
> storyline to be pursued. We know CH says she will not
> be a vampire. Eric would never let her go so it is
> the only end I can see.
>
> I can envision a spirit Sookie narrating her own
> funeral before she goes into the light with Gran and
> Claudine who has made angel status Eric crying blood
> tears over the grave. Jason growling in the back
> ground with the other weres. Niall with his hand on
> Eric's shoulder. Pam rolling her eyes and saying "I
> I wonder what the next 1000 years will bring?"
Picking up your dropped ball and running with it shamelessly.
Sookie the Martyr is born.
Maybe Sookie saves the vampires by having to sacrifice herself. A shrine will be built at the old farmhouse - vampires pilgrims will travel on their knees to pay tribute to the Sookie Shrine. Instead of Jesus on the cross its Sookie on the cross. A master sculptor will immortilize Eric in marble - holding the dying Sookie in his arms.
Yes I'm just joking...
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Oct 30, 2009 4:55 PM
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IMO Sookie will die in the end leaving an Eric storyline to be pursued. We know CH says she will not be a vampire. Eric would never let her go so it is the only end I can see.
I can envision a spirit Sookie narrating her own funeral before she goes into the light with Gran and Claudine who has made angel status Eric crying blood tears over the grave. Jason growling in the back ground with the other weres. Niall with his hand on Eric's shoulder. Pam rolling her eyes and saying "I wonder what the next 1000 years will bring?"
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Re: THE SPECULATION TRAIN: The VAMPIRE EXPRESS
Oct 30, 2009 4:53 PM
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Fulvia,
I never thought of the whole basement thing like that. Yes, Eric did screw up royally with that one. I just didn't connect all the dots - great incite there.
Pam - I adore her too. She plays off Eric so exquisitely.
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