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Campbell tries to smooth out the transitions in the police department. The newspaper scrambles to confirm surprising news from City Hall, but lose out to the TV media in scooping a high-profile Grand Jury appearance.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 5:19 PM
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See Prop Joe wanted to lay low or get out of the game anyway, but I do not think he wanted it to be permanent.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 4:57 PM
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The bottom line is Marlo got to go.....Let's continue to make this REAL. Aint no drug dealer going to have power 4ever. The average life for a BIG TIME dealer is usuallty 10 years unles he makes mistakes and Marlo just did.
Omar, Prop Joe, Micheal, and those he bumped off thus far.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 4:50 PM
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The Greeks will deal with Marlo in the end. Prop Joe was their only contact to the supply line to the streets remember Prop Joe represented the clean dealing(i.e. street money, and the comment "He aint JOE) that Killing Joe the only one the Greeks trusted has separated them from the Co-OP money. Trust me that is going to be a problem with the Greeks. They will take down Marlo.
Being in the game as long as Prop Joe had been you would think that he would expect Marlo to come at him someday. Remember the only legit thing Marlo has ever done was take a check to be cashed. The Lawyer will be the key in building a case. Joe didn't turn him on to the lawyer with out an angle.
Marlo has pulled the trigger one time. When he killed the girl in front yard of her mothers house. Thats the last time I have seen him get his hands dirty.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 4:43 PM
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Points some are missing....
1. Marlo wants to be king..... the co-op dont mean jack to him, the co-op members money does. Does the name Frank Lucas ring a bell?
2. If you look at this as good v evil, yeah, you are rooting for Omar. HOWEVER.... all the principals involved have their own agendas, from the dealers, to the cops, to the media, to the law, to civic leaders. And all are doing whatever it takes to serve said agenda. Think about all the story lines, what is the common denominator? Someone is doing something ranging from unethical to illegal to just plain EVIL.
All I will say is that Episode 55 is HOT
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 4:39 PM
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Marlo and his crew are done. I believe it was Omar who said "YOU COME @ THE KING YOU BEST NOT MISS"
Yes, they are as good as done. Weebay one of the most ruthless killers Barksdale had couldn't get at Omar and Marlo won't either.
Prop Joe was no angel. Whoever made the best proposition won. That's just how it goes. HE did his dirt but he also respected the code that a lot of drug dealers had. Marlo respects nothing and nobody and by taking out Joe, he not only will have the co op drug dealers on his ass, but he got Omar, the police (Lester and Jimmy), and even the Greeks on his ass. I do not believe the Greeks set up Joe's murder. Marlo did that on his own. The Greeks trusted Joe and those guys were all about trust. They wouldn't deal with any of the street dealers unless it ran through Joe. Marlo might think he has an angle on the Greeks, but he doesn't once that good dope stops.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 4:34 PM
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No worries....Yeah I know all about COMCAST On Demand. Unfortunately, football rules supreme in my house so unless Comcast comes up with the NFL Ticket package, I'll have Direct TV. I used to love the chat room but I've been avoiding it lately so I don't hear any spoilers.
It's all good....
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 4:30 PM
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> > I can't believe what is going on, the fake
> murders,
> > Marlo taking out Prop Joe, and the kicker is
> when
> > Omar jumps out the window and doesn't fall to
> the
> > ground. Where he at? I know Omar is mad know,
> I
> > thought Omar never missed a shot, well he did
> last
> > night and another friend of his is dead because
> of
> > Marlo. He better watch out because Omar sees
> blood
> > now. And the fake murders that where made up
> even the
> > reporters are lying and can't wait to see who
> goes
> > down for this??? One final thing what is up
> with
> > Marlo cell phone?? I don't think it will be that
> easy
> > to catch him, because he too good for his own
> damn
> > self.
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> EASY - EASY!!! I have no idea what you're talking
> about and I assume it's because you are talking about
> episode 55 not 54. Haven't seen it yet so please no
> spoilers!!!!!
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OHHH I apologize. If you have comcast cable you can watch the next episode one week in advance. There a lot I didn't mention so I haven't spoiled it completely.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 4:26 PM
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The fact is Marlo will not go down b/c he has no weakness from what we have seen. Avon had Deangelo, Stringer's weakness was trust, Joe's weakness was Cheese. Marlo has no weakness he doesnt value loyalty, women, nor family, he is only driven by money and is only loyal to self. The demise of every main character in this series has been loyalty, whether its to the street, to family, to the law, or to the politicians those that were loyal eventually fell. "The game is rigged" as Bodie once said.
I disagree with Marlo won't go down. Every season of the wire was based on realism and in real life EVERYBODY gets got at some point. You think Marlo will get away with his crimes? I don't think so. Everybody will be held accountable in the end. Marlo has a lot of weaknesses. One being his lack of smarts. He went to the Greeks AND AVON. Avon is dirty and a very crafty. I the final season ending two ways....Marlo dying or going to prison. Another weakness Marlo has, coming after Omar. The entire west side drug dealing public couldn't get Omar and Marlo is foolish to think he will get him. He should have let that sleeping dog alone. I believe Snoop will be taken out next week and then CHris.
You make a good point about Marlo's mentor. The guy at the rim shop. I believe Omar will take him out also, if Simon brings him back into the story.
My only question is how ruthless will Omar go, remember Marlo has a mentor that schools him just like Butchie schooled Omar and Slim knows exactly where he resides, (in season 3 he had Marlo and Chris lined up but didnt get the call b/c Avon was arrested). It wouldnt suprise me if Omar eventually goes at him in order to get to Marlo.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 4:20 PM
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> I can't believe what is going on, the fake murders,
> Marlo taking out Prop Joe, and the kicker is when
> Omar jumps out the window and doesn't fall to the
> ground. Where he at? I know Omar is mad know, I
> thought Omar never missed a shot, well he did last
> night and another friend of his is dead because of
> Marlo. He better watch out because Omar sees blood
> now. And the fake murders that where made up even the
> reporters are lying and can't wait to see who goes
> down for this??? One final thing what is up with
> Marlo cell phone?? I don't think it will be that easy
> to catch him, because he too good for his own damn
> self.
EASY - EASY!!! I have no idea what you're talking about and I assume it's because you are talking about episode 55 not 54. Haven't seen it yet so please no spoilers!!!!!
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 4:17 PM
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I can't believe what is going on, the fake murders, Marlo taking out Prop Joe, and the kicker is when Omar jumps out the window and doesn't fall to the ground. Where he at? I know Omar is mad know, I thought Omar never missed a shot, well he did last night and another friend of his is dead because of Marlo. He better watch out because Omar sees blood now. And the fake murders that where made up even the reporters are lying and can't wait to see who goes down for this??? One final thing what is up with Marlo cell phone?? I don't think it will be that easy to catch him, because he too good for his own damn self.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 3:57 PM
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> One other point to remember, Omar promised Bunk no
> more bodies when he got him out of jail. It appears
> that all bets are off on that now but we'll see if
> Bunk re-enters the picture as a result.
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> You are right about the promise he made bunk, which
> will obviously be broken. Bunk is the primary on all
> of those open murders Marlo staged. I think bunk will
> end up facing a moral delima just like everyone else.
> If Omar kills Chris and Snoop his case is blown, he
> will have to decide whether to lockup Omar (the only
> gangsta left with a code) or let him run wild and
> risk all those cases going unsolved.
I think Bunk's dilemma will be the fact that he will have little faith in the BPD ever bringing a case against Chris and Snoop based on the lack of dollars and current lack of interest in the cases. Right now it appears that the streets would be safer in Omar's hands vs. the homicide department. If Bunk decides to turn a blind eye to whatever Omar does, is he just as bad as McNulty - doing the wrong thing for the right reason?
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 3:40 PM
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One other point to remember, Omar promised Bunk no more bodies when he got him out of jail. It appears that all bets are off on that now but we'll see if Bunk re-enters the picture as a result.
You are right about the promise he made bunk, which will obviously be broken. Bunk is the primary on all of those open murders Marlo staged. I think bunk will end up facing a moral delima just like everyone else. If Omar kills Chris and Snoop his case is blown, he will have to decide whether to lockup Omar (the only gangsta left with a code) or let him run wild and risk all those cases going unsolved.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 3:29 PM
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> My only question is how ruthless will Omar go,
> remember Marlo has a mentor that schools him just
> like Butchie schooled Omar and Slim knows exactly
> where he resides, (in season 3 he had Marlo and Chris
> lined up but didnt get the call b/c Avon was
> arrested). It wouldnt suprise me if Omar eventually
> goes at him in order to get to Marlo.
Good point - I forgot about the Marlo shot not being taken because of Avon's arrest. Although I'm not sure how much of an issue that will be since it's apparent that they've gone to the "mattresses" since they started the war.
One other point to remember, Omar promised Bunk no more bodies when he got him out of jail. It appears that all bets are off on that now but we'll see if Bunk re-enters the picture as a result.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 3:25 PM
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Everyone is defending Joe and mad at Marlo for the move he made, I am in opposition. Joe is a snake to the 10th degree. He sold the coop idea just so he could get his dope off with out having to take it to the streets. Joe has never had any muscle other than Slim, he was just a great manipulator and opportunist. He turned Stringer on Avon to get a piece of the Towers which eventually were torned down so tht developers could reform the land. I wouldnt be suprised if Joe used the money from the co-op to invest in that land.
The fact is Marlo will not go down b/c he has no weakness from what we have seen. Avon had Deangelo, Stringer's weakness was trust, Joe's weakness was Cheese. Marlo has no weakness he doesnt value loyalty, women, nor family, he is only driven by money and is only loyal to self. The demise of every main character in this series has been loyalty, whether its to the street, to family, to the law, or to the politicians those that were loyal eventually fell. "The game is rigged" as Bodie once said.
My only question is how ruthless will Omar go, remember Marlo has a mentor that schools him just like Butchie schooled Omar and Slim knows exactly where he resides, (in season 3 he had Marlo and Chris lined up but didnt get the call b/c Avon was arrested). It wouldnt suprise me if Omar eventually goes at him in order to get to Marlo.
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Re: Episode 54: Transitions
Jan 29, 2008 2:09 PM
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> You know..I keep watching the past 3 episodes leading
> to teh death of Prop Joe. Joe was literally just
> training Marlo doing EVERYTHING Marlo wanted. I mean
> was he scared of him??? Cause he was a straight up
> fool for Marlo. Marlo can smell a punk from miles
> away. THat's why he finally killed Joe. Sorry but as
> much as I can't stand Marlo, I have NO respect for
> Joe at all. He was an idiot. 
I don't know if I'd call it straight up fool. I think Joe had sold the idea of the "co-op" to Marlo and was trying to back it up by showing how much could be accomplished by working as a unit vs. alone. Marlo had refused the co-op initially because he claimed he didn't need any help from anyone. Joe, of course, manipulated the card game robbery to change his mind. From that point on, even though he never trusted Marlo, I think he was trying to get him to see the advantages of working as a team.
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