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It's the end of an era. Pay tribute to the personalities, city and show that changed the way America views "The Game."
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Re: WHY DID PROP JOE DIE?????
May 19, 2008 1:19 PM
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yeh that's wot i didn't know wheteher the greek discussed it with joe.
But thanks for the reply, explaines a lot of things
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Re: WHY DID PROP JOE DIE?????
May 18, 2008 2:18 PM
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> LISTEN EVERYONE i cant get my head around this
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> I understand marlo killed prop joe so he wouldnt have
> any competition in the BALTIMORE DRUG GAME since he
> (marlo) had the best connect. PROP JOE already knew
> marlos connect because they supplied prop joe and so
> prop joe should have known that marlo was trying to
> put him out of business. Yet joe didnt do nothin
> about it. WHY? did the connect noty mention to joe
> that marlo was trying to do business with them??
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> PLEAZ reply
> If you dont understand what im trying to say please
> tell so i can rephrase my question
The Greek's goal was to find a suitable buyer to supply. He had no obligation to share information about his discussions with another potential buyer. A guy like the Greek is best served to not mettle in retail affairs. Let the street work that out and deal with whoever wins. Joe expected loyalty in a business where it is non-existent. Everyone is out for themself.
This all goes back to when Joe created the Co-op. I believe originally he did it for his own benefit. At that time he didn't appear to have altruistic ideas about real cooperation between crews. As time went on, I think he began to believe that it may be possible to have real cooperation. He believed his own hype. He really thought he and Marlo were on the same team. He didn't expect Marlo to go after the connection. He miscalculated.
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Re: Episode 60: RIP - THE WIRE
May 18, 2008 11:34 AM
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fuktherules - mCNULTY
problemsolver - chris partlow
kill or be killed - MARLOW
run with da big boys - slim charles
CORNERBOY4IFe - bodie
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WHY DID PROP JOE DIE?????
May 18, 2008 11:19 AM
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LISTEN EVERYONE i cant get my head around this
I understand marlo killed prop joe so he wouldnt have any competition in the BALTIMORE DRUG GAME since he (marlo) had the best connect. PROP JOE already knew marlos connect because they supplied prop joe and so prop joe should have known that marlo was trying to put him out of business. Yet joe didnt do nothin about it. WHY? did the connect noty mention to joe that marlo was trying to do business with them??
PLEAZ reply
If you dont understand what im trying to say please tell so i can rephrase my question
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Re: Episode 60: RIP - THE WIRE
May 12, 2008 9:50 PM
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> ON to a new topic.
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> Simple and Short.
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> The Wire is the BEST DAMN TV DRAMA in the history of
> this nation.
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> Why are all of you not demanding that HBO gather
> what's left of the characters and float this ship for
> another five or so years.
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> Are you really fans????
Yeah, kinda like how Avon scrounged together the "best of the rest" and went after Marlo? Didn't work so well. I'm a realistic fan, and realistically the show has run its course.
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Re: Episode 60: RIP - THE WIRE
May 11, 2008 11:38 AM
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Marlo was arrested for conspiracy. Monk got caught with the dope. Marlo wasn't riding in the car with him.
Lester learns Marlo's cellphone is transmitting pictures of clocks and tries to break the code. When the brass kicks in more money for the fake serial-killer investigation, a full-court surveillance is done and Sydnor figures out the clock code involves different locations in Baltimore. Once they stake out the warehouse and find the drug shipment, bust Monk and Cheese Lester goes to Daniels for warrants. Once Lester has the cell phones he makes the case off the cell phones not the wire.
In the arrest papers a wiretap is never mentioned, only a source is implied. While Levy comes to the conclusion that a wiretap is possible he has no proof. Marlo pretty much has no choice but to accept the deal because they have Chris' DNA, Monk and Cheese are both busted with the dope. And Levy can't prove an illegal wiretap.
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Re: Episode 60: RIP - THE WIRE
May 10, 2008 6:56 PM
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> Someone clear this up for me: Marlo & Levy both know
> that an illegal wiretap is the reason his crew got
> arrested. Yet Marlo seemingly accepts without
> protest a deal which results in long prison terms for
> his lieutenants. Why would Marlo accept this deal
> when he knows that they could all get off on this
> wiretap technicality? Levy has to protect himself to
> be sure, but Marlo & his crew could hire another
> lawyer, go to trial, and demand that the Police show
> their source. The case gets thrown out & everyone
> gets off.
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> Is Marlo just selling out his crew so he can accept
> the offer of getting away scott free?
Marlo got caught with 120 kilos. I figure he thought it best to take the deal while it was on the table or risk being put away forever. Better to be out of the game and free than out of the game in jail. He could have gone to another lawyer, but it would have been risky. Kinda like that trap Omar set in Season 1, "Rat always gon' run in the hole when it's danger" Also gotta consider that the consensus was the Levy was top shelf in town and it's not likely Marlo would think he could do better. Dude just cut his losses. Not sure I'd call it selling out the crew. The lieutenants know the score long before things go bad, and they know they have to fall on their swords. It's in their job description to do so.
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Re: Episode 60: RIP - THE WIRE
May 10, 2008 12:01 PM
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Someone clear this up for me: Marlo & Levy both know that an illegal wiretap is the reason his crew got arrested. Yet Marlo seemingly accepts without protest a deal which results in long prison terms for his lieutenants. Why would Marlo accept this deal when he knows that they could all get off on this wiretap technicality? Levy has to protect himself to be sure, but Marlo & his crew could hire another lawyer, go to trial, and demand that the Police show their source. The case gets thrown out & everyone gets off.
Is Marlo just selling out his crew so he can accept the offer of getting away scott free?
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Re: Episode 60: RIP - THE WIRE
May 6, 2008 10:44 PM
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I just wanted to know the opinion of my fellow Wire watchers, So my question to you guys is. List the Top Ten things that make a good Soldier and list Five things that make a good Kingpin. I got answers but i just want to see what you think.
Peace
I thought this was a great question to ponder, what makes a good "game" player?! Here's what I thought...
Kingpin
1. Intelligence, charisma, the ability to lead others, make them lay
down their life for yours. That ?it? factor.
2. Chameleon, diplomat when needed, & killer when needed. Has to
have that switch to turn it on and off.
3. Strength, must be able to make enemies and friends alike
fear his/her wrath, anger, or disapproval.
4. A head for business, organized, must be able to monitor &
troubleshoot through ups and downs in the business. Must stay 5
steps ahead of whatever is going on in the streets.
5. Dreamer, ambitious, must be able see the big picture and
translate that to subordinates.
Soldier
Healthy fear of the Kingpin LOL!!
1. Teachable, willing to learn
2. Strong, tough, resilient
3. Ruthless
4. Disenfranchised
5. Street smart, ability to move in the streets and be respected
6. Devoted to the team
7. Follow direction/orders/rules/"code"/disciplined
8. Hard worker, extraordinary work ethic
9. Good memory, keen eye
10. Fearless when needed/fearful when needed
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May 6, 2008 4:02 PM
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String knew money. Streets and G-sh*t he was lacking a little. Remember he ordered a hit on a Sunday!
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May 6, 2008 3:57 PM
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I was watching season 1. I noticed Wee-bay and Avon made a big deal about no talking shop in the car. "We got rules. Remember" Well a couple episodes later, Stringer is discussing with Bodie in the backseat of a car the upcoming hit on Wallace.
That just caught my attention for some reason.
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"DO THE CHAIR RECOGNIZE WE GOIN BE LOOKING LIKE SOME PUNK ASS BITCHES OUT THERE"
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May 5, 2008 11:11 AM
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I thought A flaw in the final season was that Sergei was even able to hook up the connect for Marlo.
At the end of Season 2, we saw Sergei giving up names in order to avoid the death penalty.
I'd think the Greeks might be wise enough, or cautious enough, to remove themselves from any meeting places that Sergei knew about...
Anyone agree? Any other flaws in the show?
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Re: Episode 60: RIP - THE WIRE
May 2, 2008 7:51 PM
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its too much a full time job and the pay sucks
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Your man need to reconcile himself to this here way of thinking . Prop Joe and Co-op
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Re: Episode 60: RIP - THE WIRE
May 2, 2008 7:20 PM
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i believe that dukie was really looking for a way out i will never forget when he ask cutty how you get from here to the rest of the world? it was sad because cutty didnt know and in the end dukie had no one to turn to even when he went mr. prez i feel that instead of giving dukie money knowing he was lying he should have told him to enroll back in school maybe if one person was there to keep him on right track he wouldnt had to turn to drugs
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Re: Episode 60: RIP - THE WIRE
Apr 30, 2008 11:28 PM
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Are you kidding me, here?
Let's examine your statement.
"All he did was did was introduce him to Sergie"
Without the introduction on Avon's word Marlo doesn't get to the Greeks. No Greeks, no connect. He went to the jail to meet Sergie in person in the hopes of getting to the Greeks. Introduction to the right people can bring untold benefits.
Re-watch season four and see how much money Marlo was spending. He paid 750 large for a package. What does that translate into once it hits the streets?
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