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Has anyone started watching the past season of The Wire yet? I've just started in the last day or so and Im finding that I'm catching on to more and more!  Has anyone else noticed that they missed things the first time around? -- Angela HBO Forums Host
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Aug 26, 2008 10:04 PM
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I just started watching this excellent show -- just finished with Season One. I'd always heard great things about it, but always put off watching it for one reason or another. Seems I was always caught up in The Sopranos or Deadwood or John From Cincinnati.
Anyways.. just wanted to stop by to let you know you all have very good taste. But you already knew that.
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jul 18, 2008 4:53 PM
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> There is no way n hell any of yall believed that
> Marlo had more Money than Barksdale n Bell!!!!!! I
> can't believe what I'm hearing, yall better go back n
> listen to Lester break down the Barksdale money n S1
> to Lt. Danliels!!!! He was clearing a Mil a month
> easily with nothing but property to show 4, what game
> yall running, Marlo nor Prop Joe could compete with
> that n They didn't showcase Barksdale n Bell as the
> Kings 4 nothing, they ran West Balitmore n String
> started buying from Joe the same price he was payin
> from the Greeks n made more money(S3) come on "WIRE
> FANS" wake up!!!
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> For another pit sandwich n some tata salad, I'll go a
> couple more!!!!!!
so now youre telling me a foot locker store sells more Nikes than the Nike factory to every mall in town????. Stringer was ONE of Joe wholesale accounts, Stringer whole retail operation came from Joe, at least on the dope side, coke another matter, they all had to score from NYC
Plus Joe had a possibly equal retail operation on the East side. Could it be that the up and coming had to make more noise than the firmly established and long time respected, who could therefore remain a little bit more low key. Yall really think Avon was making more on NY dope and all the expenses that entails, than a man getting better product just a few blocks to his south, with similar retail territory and way more wholesale customers.......straight off the boat String
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Your man need to reconcile himself to this here way of thinking . Prop Joe and Co-op
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Edited by laketrout at 07/18/2008 1:55 PM PDT
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jul 18, 2008 3:16 PM
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I agree that Marlo didn't have as much money as Avon. I wouldn't be so quick to say Avon had more money than Prop Joe. Property does not equate to wealth. There's also little to be read into the fact that the show focused on Avon. That was for the purpose of telling the story, not particularly to say that they were the richest or baddest in town. Simon said it himself that the Barksdales were one crew in a city full of crews. Joe ran East Baltimore the same as Avon did. I'd say the Game Day episode in S1 would tell you more than Lester breaking down Avon's cash flow. Avon held the Westside for, what, 3 or 4 years? It sure appeared as if Joe had held the Eastside for quite some time. This is not to say Joe was richer than Avon, but it doesn't make sense to say Avon was definitely richer than Joe.
Also, just because Stringer made the deal with Joe to pay the same price for weight doesn't mean that's what happened. Stringer didn't even know The Greek existed. Joe could have easily tacked on a spread and Stringer wouldn't know it. The Clay Davis situation made it clear as day that Stringer could get took, and Joe was every bit as slick as Clay Davis.
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jul 18, 2008 2:22 AM
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There is no way n hell any of yall believed that Marlo had more Money than Barksdale n Bell!!!!!! I can't believe what I'm hearing, yall better go back n listen to Lester break down the Barksdale money n S1 to Lt. Danliels!!!! He was clearing a Mil a month easily with nothing but property to show 4, what game yall running, Marlo nor Prop Joe could compete with that n They didn't showcase Barksdale n Bell as the Kings 4 nothing, they ran West Balitmore n String started buying from Joe the same price he was payin from the Greeks n made more money(S3) come on "WIRE FANS" wake up!!!
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For another pit sandwich n some tata salad, I'll go a couple more!!!!!!
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jun 28, 2008 2:40 PM
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Haven't watched since the finale but getting in that mood. Ran into the scene from Summer Past when them terrace boys beat down Dookie in season 4. Man, that was a moment.
How did Season 4 not get nominated for an Emmy but now Season 5 does, kinda late to the party people. 5 was the worst of the series but still better than all the b.s. that has been nominated so I guess it evens out.
"World goin one way, people another"-Poot
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Re: Avon enters the pit for the first time...
Jun 28, 2008 2:36 PM
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Been looking for years too! Found it and it was able to be downloaded by right clicking on the song here "Wax Music Box" by Lorem Ipsum:
http://cytoplastik.com/?bugmaster=audio/lorem%20ipsum
Now can any one help me find the song at the Cutty homecoming party. I know the first part if "My Life Extra" by DJ Technics, but what about the second part of the scene when them gurls take him in the room? Can't find that anywhere...
"He home now"-Slim Charles
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jun 25, 2008 10:36 AM
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> True. You have to wonder though if Marlo had it in
> him to make sure he stayed "set." If I remember
> correctly, they kind of alluded to Marlo being a
> gambler or he liked to gamble. I think even Chris
> gave him a side look, kind of a disapproving look
> when Marlo brought up a gambling trip to celebrate
> something or another.
Real good observation on the gambling tip. I missed it at first. But Marlo did seem to like to gamble.
Marlo: "Learning their ways requires patience...."
Chris P. "And some money too!"
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jun 24, 2008 9:40 PM
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> True. You have to wonder though if Marlo had it in
> him to make sure he stayed "set." If I remember
> correctly, they kind of alluded to Marlo being a
> gambler or he liked to gamble. I think even Chris
> gave him a side look, kind of a disapproving look
> when Marlo brought up a gambling trip to celebrate
> something or another.
Yeah, they leave that to the imagination. My bet is on him staying out. If he really wanted to stay in, he would not have sold the connection. The only way for him to take it back would have to be by force, and there's no way he can build up his muscle like the old days without catching the eye of the police. If he were to attempt a comeback, it would be like S3 all over again. I thought for a second that he may come back in a capacity similar to Butchie, but the events of Season 5 had to make it clear that there can be no laying in the cut for him. Even if he could, he would be unable to stomach the idea of being a bit player in the game. Nothing will compare to him being on top of the mountain with the ability to hang back in the cut. If that isn't enough to keep him in the game, I suspect nothing else will.
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jun 24, 2008 1:12 PM
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> > These are good points. But remember in season 1
> Avon
> > has a much more diversified portfolio than
> Marlo.
> > Thanks to Stringer. Remember all of the
> businesses
> > s that were listed?? The Towing company,
> funeral
> > parlor, laundrymats all of the front companies
> that
> > Lester found etc.. The B&B Enterprises!!! Plus
> in
> > season 3 when Cutty came to Avon to ask for
> some
> > money to start his gym, do you remember how
> funny
> > Avon thought Cutty was for asking for just
> $10.000?
> > He gave him $15.000 in a cash bag.
>
> When Lester was after the paper trail, Levy was the
> common thread that bound it all. Given his
> connections and the fact that drug dealers from all
> over went to him for the legit side, I'd say he was
> the brains behind all those acquistions. Besides,
> diversification doesn't necessarily equal riches.
> Those businesses were in place to launder money, not
> necessarily to function as successful businesses.
> Consider how Stringer had to make it clear in Season
> 3 that he wanted the copy shop to run like a real
> business. That doesn't sound like B&B has a portfolio
> of successful businesses. If the straight money was
> so good, there would be no reason to be involved at
> all, even if it's just being the bank or financing
> packages. I think the drugs fueled everything, and
> once that ran out they were finished. Also, $15K is
> nothing to someone running Westside retail, no matter
> how much legit business they have.
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> > Plus Marlo didn't really understand how to flip
> his
> > money. In season 4 when the Barksdale drug
> money ran
> > low, Brianna still had those other businesses!!
> Now
> > that Marlo is out of the game, he will be broke
> > quick!!
>
> Brianna said there was nothing left and the Bey and
> Avon were in jail. By that time the loft project had
> failed. While she didn't appear to be destitute, they
> were not likely pulling anywhere near what they were
> from drugs. Otherwise there would have been no reason
> to cut Bey loose and risk making him an enemy. Marlo
> sold The Greek for $10M, plus the money he had
> already made up to that point. He didn't need any
> legit businesses in order to be set forever, if
> that's what he wanted.
True. You have to wonder though if Marlo had it in him to make sure he stayed "set." If I remember correctly, they kind of alluded to Marlo being a gambler or he liked to gamble. I think even Chris gave him a side look, kind of a disapproving look when Marlo brought up a gambling trip to celebrate something or another.
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jun 16, 2008 9:01 AM
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> These are good points. But remember in season 1 Avon
> has a much more diversified portfolio than Marlo.
> Thanks to Stringer. Remember all of the businesses
> s that were listed?? The Towing company, funeral
> parlor, laundrymats all of the front companies that
> Lester found etc.. The B&B Enterprises!!! Plus in
> season 3 when Cutty came to Avon to ask for some
> money to start his gym, do you remember how funny
> Avon thought Cutty was for asking for just $10.000?
> He gave him $15.000 in a cash bag.
When Lester was after the paper trail, Levy was the common thread that bound it all. Given his connections and the fact that drug dealers from all over went to him for the legit side, I'd say he was the brains behind all those acquistions. Besides, diversification doesn't necessarily equal riches. Those businesses were in place to launder money, not necessarily to function as successful businesses. Consider how Stringer had to make it clear in Season 3 that he wanted the copy shop to run like a real business. That doesn't sound like B&B has a portfolio of successful businesses. If the straight money was so good, there would be no reason to be involved at all, even if it's just being the bank or financing packages. I think the drugs fueled everything, and once that ran out they were finished. Also, $15K is nothing to someone running Westside retail, no matter how much legit business they have.
> Plus Marlo didn't really understand how to flip his
> money. In season 4 when the Barksdale drug money ran
> low, Brianna still had those other businesses!! Now
> that Marlo is out of the game, he will be broke
> quick!!
Brianna said there was nothing left and the Bey and Avon were in jail. By that time the loft project had failed. While she didn't appear to be destitute, they were not likely pulling anywhere near what they were from drugs. Otherwise there would have been no reason to cut Bey loose and risk making him an enemy. Marlo sold The Greek for $10M, plus the money he had already made up to that point. He didn't need any legit businesses in order to be set forever, if that's what he wanted.
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jun 15, 2008 9:33 PM
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> I am rewatching season 1 & I noticed that Carcetti
> was mentioned there!! In ep 6 when Brandon is whacked
> Holly & Norris call to see when the CSI unit will be
> available. Holly says that they are at the Council
> President's House because someone stole his patio
> furnature!! If I am not mistaken in season 3 Carcetti
> was the Council President!!
>
> Stringa............
I don't think Carcetti was ever the council president. He was a councilman from the 1st district who was in charge of the safety board. That's why he ran those meetings in season 3. In the later seasons the council president was Nareese Campbell. I don't think they mentioned who the council president was in S1.
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jun 15, 2008 10:58 AM
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> > just finished watching season1 and i remembered
> a
> > thread about who had more money.
> > marlo had way more moneey then avon. no doubt
> about
> > it.
> > avons reward 4 omar 4gs. haha marlos was 250gs.n
> then
> > the 1 scene rite be4 he gets locked up hes mad
> about
> > the 150 g in the safe marlo would laughed that
> off. i
> > dunno the money just seemed like it changed
> from
> > avons time to marlos
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>
> That is a good observation of how the money did
> change with times. On the bounty part though. Omar
> was pretty much a nobody at that point. Just a
> faggot who hit a lick every now and then. By the
> time Marlo went after Omar, Omar was well known.
> But, by the time Marlo went after Omar, I would
> d have to say Marlo had more money.
These are good points. But remember in season 1 Avon has a much more diversified portfolio than Marlo. Thanks to Stringer. Remember all of the businesses that were listed?? The Towing company, funeral parlor, laundrymats all of the front companies that Lester found etc.. The B&B Enterprises!!! Plus in season 3 when Cutty came to Avon to ask for some money to start his gym, do you remember how funny Avon thought Cutty was for asking for just $10.000? He gave him $15.000 in a cash bag.
Plus Marlo didn't really understand how to flip his money. In season 4 when the Barksdale drug money ran low, Brianna still had those other businesses!! Now that Marlo is out of the game, he will be broke quick!!
Stringa..............
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jun 15, 2008 10:32 AM
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I am rewatching season 1 & I noticed that Carcetti was mentioned there!! In ep 6 when Brandon is whacked Holly & Norris call to see when the CSI unit will be available. Holly says that they are at the Council President's House because someone stole his patio furnature!! If I am not mistaken in season 3 Carcetti was the Council President!!
Stringa............
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Avon enters the pit for the first time...
Jun 9, 2008 10:15 PM
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Can anyone tell me the name of the song and who the artist is of the song playing when Avon enters the pit for the first time? Season 1, no lyrics just beats.
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Re: Rewatching Past Seasons?
Jun 2, 2008 5:39 PM
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properties were condemned, which speaks to the quality of and price paid for them. In short, one can own lots of crappy properties without being rich
Tell me about it!!! You aint never lied!!!
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